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Miguel.mateo 06-19-2008 08:48 PM

Belgian Royal Coats of Arms & Monograms
 
Hi there,

I wonder if anyone can help me to find information about the Belgian Royal Monograms. I am in particular looking for the monograms picture and general information about them.

Thanks in advance,
Miguel

LadyLeana 06-22-2008 03:15 AM

Belgian monograms
 
King Albert II 's monogram is on the Belgian euro coins (A with a crown above). Albert I's monogram was probably the same as Albert II's.

If I am not mistaken,the Leopolds' monogram was an L, mirrored to the left side, with a crown above (so two L's, the first mirrored).
Boudewijn's monogram was probably just a B with a crown above. Maybe mirrored as well, can't remember, I was only a child when he died.

I hope this helps you somewhat. Haven't found pictures, but euro-coins you can find on Wiki. Maybe pictures of royal buildings can help, I distinctly remember seeing a Leopold monogram in greyish stone one day.

paola 06-22-2008 07:13 AM

You can find the mirrored L on the building of the central station in Antwerp. [next to the Zoo] People told me that it is the monogram of Leopold II, I don't know if it is also the monogram of the others Kings Leopold.

Maybe you can also look and ask your questions about this subject here



https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/f162/royal-monograms-842.html

There are the treads about this subject in general.

An Ard Ri 02-10-2016 04:08 PM

Royal Standard of Queen Fabiola of Belgium


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...014%29.svg.png

Queen Fabiola's monogram


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

An Ard Ri 02-10-2016 04:11 PM

Royal Monogram of King Baudouin I, King of the Belgians


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lgians.svg.png



Royal Monagram of Princess Astrid of Belgium,Archduchess of Austria-Este


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

An Ard Ri 02-10-2016 04:12 PM

Royal Monogram of King Albert II, King of the Belgians


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Royal Standard of King Albert II of Belgium

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

An Ard Ri 02-10-2016 04:18 PM

Royal Standard of Queen Paola of Belgium

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

Royal Monogram of Queen Paola of Belgium

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

An Ard Ri 02-10-2016 04:27 PM

Royal Standard of King Philippe of Belgium

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

An Ard Ri 02-11-2016 08:11 AM

Monogram of Queen Elisabeth of Belgium

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...elgium.svg.png

CyrilVladisla 03-30-2018 05:35 PM

Royal monogram of King Leopold I
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...e_Belgians.svg

JR76 07-23-2019 02:22 PM

The Royal family has just announced a redesigned their coat of arms to, if I understand it correctly, be more gender neutral and avoid confusion between King Phillipe and King Albert. Another noteworthy change is the reintroduction of the Saxon shield as a nod to the Royal family's Saxon roots to which The King according to the article are very attached.

https://www.lecho.be/economie-politi.../10147055.html

I didn't know were to put this so feel free to move it somewhere else.

An Ard Ri 07-23-2019 02:33 PM

I wonder why they waiting until now and not when the King acceded to the throne,the Belgian Royal Court seems to be chasing its own tail at times.

JR76 07-23-2019 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by An Ard Ri (Post 2241389)
I wonder why they waiting until now and not when the King acceded to the throne,the Belgian Royal Court seems to be chasing its own tail at times.

Didn't the abdication happen rather quickly so maybe they had other more important things to consider? I do agree that they seem to be chasing their own tails. Philippe and Mathilde might be doing their best, but there's always something going on in Belgium or the Royal family isn't there

An Ard Ri 07-23-2019 03:20 PM

Well I suppose its better 6 years late than never ;)

Marengo 07-23-2019 03:39 PM

The coat of arms now has two motto's under it, the first one in Dutch and the second one in French. I do not think I have seen the double-motto before.

I have no idea why the king changed the coat of arms, but the change will make the coat of arms of the king -slightly- different than the coat of arms of the country.

The gender neutral part is interesting. Queen Wilhelmina adopted the coat-of-arms of her predecessor King Willem III without changing it to round coat-of-arms which is perhaps usual for a female. I suppose the same happened for Queen Margrethe II and Queen Elizabeth but the Belgian court seems to have found different solution.

JR76 07-23-2019 03:40 PM

Will this affect the National Coat of arms?

JR76 07-23-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marengo (Post 2241403)
The gender neutral part is interesting. Queen Wilhelmina adopted the coat-of-arms of her predecessor King Willem III without the need for a round coat-of-arms which is perhaps usual for a female. I suppose the same happened for Queen Margrethe II and Queen Elizabeth but the Belgian court seems to have found different solution.

Could the fact that the succession in neither countries wasn't gender neutral when the three queens you mentioned ascended their thrones have something to do with that? By making the coat of arms gender neutral there's no need to change it just because the new monarch has a different sex than their predecessor.

Mbruno 07-23-2019 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR76 (Post 2241386)
The Royal family has just announced a redesigned their coat of arms to, if I understand it correctly, be more gender neutral and avoid confusion between King Phillipe and King Albert. Another noteworthy change is the reintroduction of the Saxon shield as a nod to the Royal family's Saxon roots to which The King according to the article are very attached.

https://www.lecho.be/economie-politi.../10147055.html

I didn't know were to put this so feel free to move it somewhere else.

Does the return of the Saxony (Wettin) coat of arms mean that the Princes of Belgium have actually resumed the use of the titles of Duke of Saxony and Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha ? In the latter case, I suppose that Laurent’s grandchildren could be princes/princesses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha too even though they are no longer entitled to be princes/princesses of Belgium and HRHs .

Duc_et_Pair 07-23-2019 06:14 PM

The two banners wirh mottos are arch-ugly. There is really no need for it. The British have a French motto (Dieu et Mon Droit), the Prince of Wales has a German motto (Ich Dien), the Spanish have a Latin motto (Plus Ultra), the Dutch and the Luxembourgers have a French motto (Je Maintiendrai). It is beyond belief that the Belgians feel they need to rape their nicely composed coat-of-arms with two strange ribbons under the side-Lions, just because of political correctness. l'Union Fait la Force. What is next? A third ribbon with Einigkeit Macht Stark to represent the German-speaking part?

Tatiana Maria 07-23-2019 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair (Post 2241445)
What is next? A third ribbon with Einigkeit Macht Stark to represent the German-speaking part?

The ribbon includes all three languages. The German is written on the right of the photograph. The photograph in the posted article unfortunately chopped off the French.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mbruno (Post 2241441)
Does the return of the Saxony (Wettin) coat of arms mean that the Princes of Belgium have actually resumed the use of the titles of Duke of Saxony and Prince of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha ? In the latter case, I suppose that Laurentís grandchildren could be princes/princesses of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha too even though they are no longer entitled to be princes/princesses of Belgium and HRHs .

There is some interesting (for me ;)) wording included in the new decree which relates to the 2015 restructuring of the Belgian royal titles and surnames, so I will most likely write a post in the titles thread in the near future.
As with the 2015 decree, the preamble also addresses the reasons.

As regards your question: https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ml#post2186636


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