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Lenora 02-06-2011 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MPD1 (Post 1202045)
Isn't the Queen of England a descendant or maybe another royal clan from Britain if not the Windsors. So I heard u can correct me ;) .

QEII is not direct descendant of Vlad

Marc23 02-07-2011 08:32 PM

Here is the line from Dracula's father to Queen Elizabeth II:



Vlad II Dracul,"Vlad the Dragon",Duke of Wallachia,ruled from 1430-1446
I
Vlad IV ''the Monk",Duke of Wallachia,lived from 1435-1495
I
Radu IV "the Great",Duke of Wallachia,lived from 1467-1508
I
Mircea III "the Shepherd",Duke of Wallachia,died in 1559
I
Princess Stanca Basarab of Wallachia
I
Semphira Logofat de Szaszebes,died in 1602
I
Adam Racz de Galgo
I
Peter Racz de Galgo
I
Christina Racz de Galgo
I
Katalin Kuun de Osdola
I
Agnes Kendeffy de Malomviz,born in 1727
I
Baron Gregor Inczédy de Nagy-Varad,died in 1816
I
Baroness Agnes Inczedy de Nagy Varad,lived from 1788-1856
I
Countess Claudine Rhedey de Kis-Rhede,lived from 1812-1841
I
Duke Franz von Teck,lived from 1837-1900
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Princess Victoria Mary of Teck,lived from 1867-1953
I
King George VI of Great Britain,lived from 1895-1952
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Elizabeth II,Queen of Great Britain,born in 1926

MPD1 02-10-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenora (Post 1202067)
QEII is not direct descendant of Vlad

Lenie, it's hard to find direct descendants of a medieval royal ;) . See Marc's post :previous: ? I was right in a way.

Marc23 02-11-2011 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenora (Post 1202067)
QEII is not direct descendant of Vlad

True,she is a descendant of his father,Vlad the Dracul!

Cory 04-24-2011 12:06 PM

Vlad Dracul as other romanian Princess of the period had also not legitimate sons.

Lenora 04-24-2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1237680)
Vlad Dracul as other romanian Princess of the period had also not legitimate sons.

How about illegitimate ones?

Cory 04-24-2011 12:17 PM

Beginning with the XIVth century even the illegitimate sons could pretend the trone in Vallachia and Moldavia because they were considered "princely bone".

pacomartin 04-24-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc23 (Post 1202383)
Here is the line from Dracula's father to Queen Elizabeth II:



Vlad II Dracul,"Vlad the Dragon",Duke of Wallachia,ruled from 1430-1446
Vlad IV ''the Monk",Duke of Wallachia,lived from 1435-1495
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Countess Claudine Rhedey de Kis-Rhede,lived from 1812-1841
Duke Franz von Teck,lived from 1837-1900
Princess Victoria Mary of Teck,lived from 1867-1953
King George VI of Great Britain,lived from 1895-1952
Elizabeth II,Queen of Great Britain,born in 1926

There were actually three different bloodlines from Dracula to Countess Claudine through three of her four grandparents. You are only showing one of them.

Countess Claudine was a beautiful woman and Duke Alexander of Württemberg loved her very much. Her tragic death at age 29 (the most commonly told story is that she was trampled by a team of horses at an exhibition) sent him into a lifetime of mourning and sadness.

Due to the German laws relating to the line of succession, she was viewed as being of non-Royal rank and the marriage was declared morganatic. She was denied the title of Duchess. A morganatic marriage is different than an illegitimate relationship. The children are considered legitimate on other counts and the prohibition of bigamy applies

Countess Claudine is ethnically considered pure Transylvanian. Since she is four generations from QEII that makes QEII 1/2^4 or 1/16 Transylvanian. While not a dominant part of the ethnic makeup of QEII it is larger percentage than her Irish, Scottish, French, Dutch, Danish, Belgian, Swedish, or Bohemian ancestry.

Cory 04-24-2011 03:15 PM

The countess was a hungarian aristocrat from Transylvania, a province with romanian majority even during that period.

Marc23 07-25-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pacomartin (Post 1237689)
QEII it is larger percentage than her Irish, Scottish, French, Dutch, Danish, Belgian, Swedish, or Bohemian ancestry.

Danish,Dutch,Swedish,Belgian and some of her Bohemian ancestry = German!

Marc23 07-25-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pacomartin (Post 1237689)
There were actually three different bloodlines from Dracula to Countess Claudine through three of her four grandparents. You are only showing one of them.

Yes,I thought that one was just fine to show the lineage and didn't search for more...Thank you for this new information-I think those kind of things are interesting to know!

Cory 10-22-2015 07:16 PM

Too many people ignore the fact he was the Sovereign Prince of Wallachia.

Transylvania has always had a Romanian majority.

The Romanians and the ethnic minorities of Transylvania represent though a specific culture typical to Central Europe.

JR76 10-22-2015 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pacomartin (Post 1237689)

Countess Claudine is ethnically considered pure Transylvanian. Since she is four generations from QEII that makes QEII 1/2^4 or 1/16 Transylvanian. While not a dominant part of the ethnic makeup of QEII it is larger percentage than her Irish, Scottish, French, Dutch, Danish, Belgian, Swedish, or Bohemian ancestry.


Being "Transylvanian" is not an ethnic designation. Many different ethnic groups considers Transylvania their home and none of them carries that name.


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JR76 10-22-2015 08:27 PM

Vlad III, Prince of Walachia (1431-1476), "Vlad the Impaler"
 
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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1832071)
Transylvania has always had a Romanian majority.


My point is that there isn't a one Transylvanian ethnicity. There are Romanian, Szcekely, Hungarian, Saxon, Roma, Jewish etc. Transylvanians. Different peoples, languages and religions that all inhabit the same land without one calling themselves Transylvanias separating them from their main ethnic and historical roots.


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Cory 10-29-2015 05:46 PM

Vlad III remains one of the most popular Princes in the history of the country.

Cory 02-26-2016 03:35 AM

HRH the Prince of Wales is descendant of Vlad III of Wallachia.

Cory 03-15-2016 05:33 AM

The Prince of Wales is very popular in Transylvania, the land of some of his firefathets.


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