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HRH Kerry 09-06-2006 10:43 PM

Pretty interesting.

Josefine, did you find anything in the military thread yet?

Yennie 09-07-2006 04:25 AM

Here you can see Victorias sign that says "HKH Kronprinsessan" and Carl Philips "Bernadotte" sign


https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7108/1sh3.th.jpg https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4...0858oq5.th.jpg
photo from Scanpix (sorry about the quality, had to enlarge the image so the sign could be seen :) )

HRH Kerry 09-07-2006 07:30 AM

Thanks Yennie. Wow, no "special" treatment for the prince. I would think that it was "well known" who the prince was though.;)

cloclo 09-07-2006 08:56 AM

well, why is there this name diffrence between Victoria and Carl phillip? and do they have to attend the military?

Yennie 09-07-2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cloclo
well, why is there this name diffrence between Victoria and Carl phillip? and do they have to attend the military?

its common for royals to do military service. As Victoria is crown princess and our future Queen she should have some military education.
I think the name thing is just because of their status, as crown princess Victorias is of higher rank than her brother

Sebastiana 09-07-2006 08:00 PM

And Sweden has compulsory national service for men anyway. (Although they can serve in the fire dept or something similar if they don't want to serve in the armed forces.)

Leslie2006 09-07-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Josefine
Madeleine - becouse they liked it
Thérèse Amelie - HH Therese Amalie Karoline Josephine Antoinette Princess of Saxe-Altenburg, Duchess of Saxony (In Sweden styled as Princess Theresia)
Josephine - from Queen Josefina of sweden

I didn't know who Madeline's second and third names were for, but I always thought Josephine was for her French ancestress, Josephine Boneparte, second wife of Napoleon?

Sister Morphine 09-07-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie2006
I didn't know who Madeline's second and third names were for, but I always thought Josephine was for her French ancestress, Josephine Boneparte, second wife of Napoleon?


Josephine is actually in honor Josephine Bonaparte's granddaughter.


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Her fourth name, Josephine, is in honour of her ancestress Josephine of Leuchtenberg (later Queen of Sweden and Norway under the name Josefina) the daughter of Prince Eugene of Bavaria, the son of Napoleon Bonaparte's first wife Joséphine.
I would guess the Therese and the Amelie are just to keep the French theme with her names going; Bernadotte, their surname, is French.

soCal girl 09-08-2006 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Yennie
its common for royals to do military service. As Victoria is crown princess and our future Queen she should have some military education.
I think the name thing is just because of their status, as crown princess Victorias is of higher rank than her brother

Victoria was also called "Princess" while in regular school while both Carl Philip and Madeleine got called by their first names.

Madeleine's name is very French. It flows beautifully though :flowers: . I think Victoria's full name (Victoria Ingrid Alice Desiree) isn't as smooth as Madeleine's full name.

cloclo 09-08-2006 11:48 AM

thanks for the answers :flowers:
Victoria's full name also includes French names: alice, desiree, but Madeleine is a good name, i like its pronounciation in french, more than in english

Hans-Rickard 02-28-2007 12:17 PM

I think a future prince can be styled as Gustaf Adolf but be called as HKH Prins Gustaf like Victorias great great grandfather King Gustaf V who´s full name was Oscar Gustaf Adolf.

I dont think a boy will be called for example Gustaf Adolf due to the black assosiations whith the name Adolf.
It is sad because it is an old traditional name in the royal house in sweden, not only as Adolf but as Gustaf Adolf and Adolf Fredrik for example.

For Victorias children i am shure that the first one will have traditional name and maybe the fathers/mothers name as he/she will be nr 2 and later nr 1 in the succession.

For an own example Carl Oscar Fredrik Daniel(maybe?) if it is a boy and
as a girl she can be styled as Christina Louise Ingrid Victoria or something like that.
I guess it will be something traditional and a name frome one of the parents.

Off course it can be more than or less than 4 name but most of the royal houses giving their new generations 4 name today.

For the other possible future royal children in sweden for both Victoria and her brother and sister in is an open question but I think it will be at least one or two traditional name even there.

We have already discussed the background of Victorias and Madeleines 4 name and I think everybody know the background of Carl Philips 4 name too, maybe not Philip.

Carl after his father HM The King.

Philip, belive it or not, it is after the duke of edinburgh even if it is a very old royal name in sweden too, then styled as Filip.

Edmund after his grandfather Prince Gustaf Adolf called Edmund (and it was his last name, he had 6 name!)

Bertil after his fabulous and beloved uncle, the duke of halland.

KathaFD 02-28-2007 01:12 PM

the name alice came from silvas mother he called alice

RoyalKnottie 03-02-2007 12:59 PM

What about the pronunciation of Bernadotte. I pronounce it like bern-a-doe but then I think to myself I'm saying burn a doe?! Does anyone know?

Henri M. 03-02-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyalKnottie
What about the pronunciation of Bernadotte. I pronounce it like bern-a-doe but then I think to myself I'm saying burn a doe?! Does anyone know?

Not 'ber-na-doe' because the 'tte' at the end must be heard. In the correct (French) style it is 'ber-na-dô-ht'

:flowers:

avrilo 06-13-2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by trippc
Sorry to revive this thread.....

But in Sweden how do you pronounce Carl Philip's name? In my Aussie accent it would be too harsh I think - is it Karl Fil-ip? Or with an e on the end?

I have no idea - I would love some Swedish help so when I go to Sweden and meet him I don't make a fool of myself ;):p lol

I believe it is pronunced Korl Filip

Josefine 02-22-2015 04:19 AM

Did you think Estelle and Leonore were possible names when the king annunced the names or were you supriced

Marty91charmed 02-22-2015 07:40 AM

I find it really funny that the swedish royal family has more international or even foreign names than swedish classic ones! Aside from Carl and Estelle I don't think that the other sound very swedish... Am I wrong?

Baron Brockdorf 02-22-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Josefine (Post 1752684)
Did you think Estelle and Leonore were possible names when the king annunced the names or were you supriced

I think both names were unexpected choices.....however, Leonore does have Royal ring to it as Sweden has had many Queen with Eleonora as part of their name .....so it's a bit like a variant.....Estelle is just too different/unusual and 'new'

Meraude 02-26-2015 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Josefine (Post 138118)
Madeleine - becouse they liked it
Thérèse Amelie - HH Therese Amalie Karoline Josephine Antoinette Princess of Saxe-Altenburg, Duchess of Saxony (In Sweden styled as Princess Theresia)
Josephine - from Queen Josefina of sweden

I would say that it's more likely that the name Amelie is in honour of Amélie of Leuchtenberg, empress of Brazil, and the younger sister of queen Josefina of Sweden. It was from Amélie that the SRF got the Braganza tiara, as queen Josefina was the primary heir of Amélie.

Josefine 03-05-2016 10:27 AM

Daniel and sofia has Bernadotte in the in names at the tax officer
How about estelle, oscar, Leonore and Nicolas
The king and queen and victoria, Carl Philip and madeleine has no last name.

I have looked around and estelle, oscar, Leonore and Nicolas has no last name


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