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sirhon11234 12-09-2006 04:29 PM

Preparations for the 10th Anniversary Concert and Memorial Service
 
Spice Girls are to perform at Diana concert next year.

https://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7005720510

Skydragon 12-12-2006 06:45 AM

Concert and service to mark Diana's death

Princes William and Harry have announced two events to mark the tenth anniversary of the death of their mother, Diana, Princess of Wales.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/12122006/35...a-s-death.html

corazon 12-12-2006 07:35 AM

I see the interview in the royalist and is brillant! william and harry is the first time they talk about diana and her work especially to the diana princess of wales memorial fund.
I think it's very very nice they will do a service in agust 31 and the vconcert in wembley, just they know exactly taht diana want.
Me as diana fan I am very pround of william and harry, at last diana will honored as she was, the mother of a future king.

Avalon 12-12-2006 07:36 AM

Official website, dedicate to the Concert for Diana (starting from tomorrow, you can buy tickets from there!) can be found here.

And here is is the video and transcript of broadcast footage for Prince William and Prince Harry’s announcement of commemorations for Diana, Princess of Wales.

xtan 12-12-2006 09:33 AM

did anyone see the interview william and harry gave on diana's 10 years anniversery? i read somewhere that william and harry looked bored during the interview? so i was wondering if it is true....

corazon 12-12-2006 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xtan
did anyone see the interview william and harry gave on diana's 10 years anniversery? i read somewhere that william and harry looked bored during the interview? so i was wondering if it is true....

yes, you can see the interniew in the royalist page or in the official page of the prince of wales

Skydragon 12-12-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by xtan
did anyone see the interview william and harry gave on diana's 10 years anniversery? i read somewhere that william and harry looked bored during the interview? so i was wondering if it is true....

Just click here to see it.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 10:55 AM

Who is paying for this concert?

love_cc 12-12-2006 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Who is paying for this concert?

Thousands of sponsors will be willing to offer everything for the concerts and the stars are willing to gain their reputation in this event. Don't worry about the bill. The concert is a charity concert and not for paying money. I think Charles will pay the money if it is necessary. But I believe that every one who have an interest in this shall never ask for any money for pay.

corazon 12-12-2006 11:22 AM

may be the government too, this concert maybe be like the freddie mercury tribute concert in 1992, but I don't know who pay the concert.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 11:44 AM

Well as long as they don't expect the tax-payer to foot the bill.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6171889.stm

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It has also been confirmed the senior royals, including their stepmother the Duchess of Cornwall, will attend the memorial service on 31 August, the actual anniversary of Diana's death.
Thank Heaven for small mercies.

corazon 12-12-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by love_cc
Thousands of sponsors will be willing to offer everything for the concerts and the stars are willing to gain their reputation in this event. Don't worry about the bill. The concert is a charity concert and not for paying money. I think Charles will pay the money if it is necessary. But I believe that every one who have an interest in this shall never ask for any money for pay.

if charles wil pay some part of the concert we can't know but if it is this was is very correct, she was his wife and the mother of his children

Skydragon 12-12-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by corazon
if charles wil pay some part of the concert we can't know but if it is this was is very correct, she was his wife and the mother of his children

She was his ex wife and it would hardly be right to expect him to pay anything towards it.

Perhaps the father of her last boyfriend, al Fayed, will pay, but like BeatrixFan, I hope it is not going to come from British Taxpayers, the enquiry has cost more than enough! :mad:

corazon 12-12-2006 12:14 PM

:wacko: the monarchy ans al fayed don't are very close friends
I don't thinks william and harry work together in nothing with al fayed.
this look like a william and harry's plan with the help of cahrles and of course, with the permition of the queen.
if the boys want to do a tribute to their mother and at the same tome do a charity is fine.
Who pay the concert we don't know

We don't talk about the investigation, but was logic that a princess die i crash the british justice do an investigation

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 12:17 PM

I agree Skydragon. This enquiry has cost 2 million approx. It is expected to cost a furthur 3 million when all legal fees etc are covered. So we DO talk about the investigation because there had already been one. This one was just to humour the conspiracists and it landed the British people with a bill into millions. She's cost us enough already without us paying for a concert.

corazon 12-12-2006 12:29 PM

in the freddie mercury concert tribute were in wembley 72.000 persons, the new wembley is most great?

Elspeth 12-12-2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
She was his ex wife and it would hardly be right to expect him to pay anything towards it.

Perhaps the father of her last boyfriend, al Fayed, will pay, but like BeatrixFan, I hope it is not going to come from British Taxpayers, the enquiry has cost more than enough! :mad:

Please tell me you aren't being serious. Somehow I don't think the princes would want to be associated with an event being paid for by the man who's been running around for the last decade accusing their grandfather of having had their mother murdered.

I'm sure that if the Prince of Wales is contributing to the concert, it won't be because anyone expects anything, it'll be to commemorate her years as Princess of Wales. She was a full-time member of the royal family for 15 years, and it isn't all that unreasonable for the Duchy of Cornwall to contribute to a commemorative concert.

Jo of Palatine 12-12-2006 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
I agree Skydragon. This enquiry has cost 2 million approx. It is expected to cost a furthur 3 million when all legal fees etc are covered. So we DO talk about the investigation because there had already been one. This one was just to humour the conspiracists and it landed the British people with a bill into millions. She's cost us enough already without us paying for a concert.

I guess such a concert should be earning its own keep with TV rights, fandom stuff and entrance fees. BTW - did you see on the webpage that there are NO VIP-tickets? First in, first come-system? I wonder in which row they will place Daddy Charles..... :rofl:

Skydragon 12-12-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth
Please tell me you aren't being serious. Somehow I don't think the princes would want to be associated with an event being paid for by the man who's been running around for the last decade accusing their grandfather of having had their mother murdered.

I'm sure that if the Prince of Wales is contributing to the concert, it won't be because anyone expects anything, it'll be to commemorate her years as Princess of Wales. She was a full-time member of the royal family for 15 years, and it isn't all that unreasonable for the Duchy of Cornwall to contribute to a commemorative concert.

I was being sarcastic, it gets the better of me sometimes! :flowers:

Why is there a presumption that her ex husband should contribute anything? When you divorce, it severs all ties IMO, otherwise the men and women who have 3, 4, 5 ex's would be very busy and very much out of pocket.

Jo of Palatine 12-12-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
I was being sarcastic, it gets the better of me sometimes! :flowers:

To stay in the spirit of it: The Prince of Wales is already contributing something to the festiveness of the event: he's bringing his princess.......:lol: (Sorry, after reading the comments on the royalist.com-page I couldn't stop myself....

ysbel 12-12-2006 01:20 PM

Most charity events I know of has a sponsor who puts up money to run the event and the event charges admission fees to cover these upfront costs and raise a profit for charity.

If that's the way the concert is run, if its run well, the event will earn a tidy profit for charity and the Duchy will be reimbursed for their expenses.

I think the problem is if the event is not run well, then its possible the costs won't be covered and there's nothing left for charity. I hope they think things through better than they did with the fountain.

sassie 12-12-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
I was being sarcastic, it gets the better of me sometimes! :flowers:

Why is there a presumption that her ex husband should contribute anything? When you divorce, it severs all ties IMO, otherwise the men and women who have 3, 4, 5 ex's would be very busy and very much out of pocket.

Not when they have had children together. Ties still exist then, through the kids, even loose ones.

Jeez, if Prince Charles wants to contribute something towards commemorating the mother of his sons, why not? It's his money, and it's a not altogether unadmirable thing to do.

Elspeth 12-12-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
I was being sarcastic, it gets the better of me sometimes! :flowers:

Why is there a presumption that her ex husband should contribute anything? When you divorce, it severs all ties IMO, otherwise the men and women who have 3, 4, 5 ex's would be very busy and very much out of pocket.

Well, most exes don't rate tenth-anniversary concerts either; she was a public figure for over a decade, and this concert seems to mean a lot to her (and Charles's) sons since they're so closely involved right from the start. It isn't a presumption as much as a conjecture: "I wonder if Charles will contribute" isn't the same as "Charles should pay for it."

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 02:42 PM

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That's a rather unkind and unfair assessment. "She" hasn't cost you anything since 1997.
It isn't unfair or unkind. It's realistic. Money has been spent because of her since 1997 and amounts to millions. The public did not ask for a concert, they should not be landed with the bill.

sassie 12-12-2006 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
It isn't unfair or unkind. It's realistic. Money has been spent because of her since 1997 and amounts to millions. The public did not ask for a concert, they should not be landed with the bill.

No, realistically, in regard to the enquiries, millions have been spent since 1997 because a lot of people don't want to accept the truth. She can hardly be blamed for that.

If the money fronted by a sponsor is to becovered by the admission fees, then the public that attends is choosing 'to be landed with the bill'. If they don't want to pay for it, then they won't go.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sassie
Not when they have had children together. Ties still exist then, through the kids, even loose ones.

Once the obligation of ensuring financial security for children is realised, at 18 in the UK, then there really should be no further need of ties, of any sort to the ex.

They were not happily married, they were divorced, it is not as if he lost a loving or beloved wife.

The only ties that exist are for the children, not through the children.

sassie 12-12-2006 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon

The only ties that exist are for the children, not through the children.

Ties are ties.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sassie
No, realistically, in regard to the enquiries, millions have been spent since 1997 because a lot of people don't want to accept the truth. She can hardly be blamed for that.

If the money fronted by a sponsor is to becovered by the admission fees, then the public that attends is choosing 'to be landed with the bill'. If they don't want to pay for it, then they won't go.

Even I think she can be held responsible. If she hadn't apparently made allegations against Charles with her letter, if she hadn't made whisperings to the press before her death, about 'plots', then the majority, IMO, would have accepted the fact that it was a speeding drunk driver and lack of seatbelt, that caused her death.

I would imagine the cost of hiring the new stadium will be immense, I don't know how many it is expected to hold, but, lets hope the sale of tickets does cover the cost of the hire, insurance, lighting, electricity, sound systems etc and that the 'artists are all going to perform for free!

Zonk 12-12-2006 03:15 PM

Correct me if I am wrong....but isn't he considered a widower because she died..at least to the Church of England? That being the case...I am sure if he did make a contribution it wouldn't be a problem.

Whatever the facts maybe (cause we dont know them all)...we have six LONG months to discuss this in great detail...why don't we wait for some more details to come out?

In regards to her being blamed for the costs of the inquiry and the concert...Goodness gracious...its no wonder why no one can move on...let's blame global warming on her as well.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sassie
Ties are ties.

That is the sentiment normally held by ex wives, trying to keep their claws into their ex husband.

Once the children are grown, there is normally no need for contact on a social or financial level, with ex's.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk
In regards to her being blamed for the costs of the inquiry and the concert...Goodness gracious...its no wonder why no one can move on...let's blame global warming on her as well.

I can only imagine your comments are based on the fact that it is not your money being used.

If all her 'fans' would like to contribute to the cost of the inquiry, then I am sure it would ease the burden on the ones who are, at the moment paying the sunstantial bills!

Zonk 12-12-2006 03:29 PM

Actually my comments are based upon the fact that we don't know any true details regarding the concert (cost of the venue, sponsorship, ticket info, etc)...so know one (fans and detractors) should not jump too any conclusions.

In regards to the inquiry...I too think its a waste of money but blaming Diana for the inquiry (since she has been dead since 1997 regardless of any letters, comments she may have made) is a little ridiculous in my mind and I don't have to be a taxpayer to have that opinion.

Panther2000 12-12-2006 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Madame Royale
And visa versa on occasion. It does, of course, go both ways :smile:

I just think it unfortuante that so often they are played against each other from various factions outside the 'know'.

Here Here you got that right.

the woman is dead& can't defend herself any longer. & If her sons take up for he & come to her defence or celebrate her in some public way then they are being forced by the public & media. :wacko: Yeah, the boys don't have mind of their own.

I would say vice versa on many many occasions.

Back on topic I am happy by that Article that they boys wanted to do something that they new would make their mother happy. Something that she would love. A musical Concert. So much for the Media forcing the boys into doing something that they did not want to do.:rolleyes:

I don't know what to make of the August Memorial with Camila in attendence. It is a no win situation(sp) with that. No matter what Diana is(even in death) the Mother of future King & she & Charles will always be tied together because of that. & As the Father of her children he mus attend &Camila as his current wife & part of the royal family she too must attend. She as to attend. That will be on hard day for both She & Charles. No one is looking forward to that day.

But, on a happier note: I loved the Video Clip. Harry forever the joker. Telling us to call Williams cell & will taking it in stride telling him to shutup. Love the brotherly banter. It is great to see

Zonk 12-12-2006 03:42 PM

I actually don't think Camilla or Charles will attend. Nor will any other senior member of the Royal Family. First of all, I think Camilla's attendance is just wrong..they weren't friends when she was alive...so why would she want to attend. Charles is another matter...but he won' go due to loyalty to his wife...and he should be loyal to her. I just don't see any of family members attending. IMO this is just the media throwing out names without any concrete proof to start up the Diana vs. Camilla thing again. But we have six months to plan it so we will see.

corazon 12-12-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk
I actually don't think Camilla or Charles will attend. Nor will any other senior member of the Royal Family. First of all, I think Camilla's attendance is just wrong..they weren't friends when she was alive...so why would she want to attend. Charles is another matter...but he won' go due to loyalty to his wife...and he should be loyal to her. I just don't see any of family members attending. IMO this is just the media throwing out names without any concrete proof to start up the Diana vs. Camilla thing again. But we have six months to plan it so we will see.

when the fountain was open the queen was there and don't was an official event about diana, this concert is approved for the queen and organized for william and harry, it's a VERY official event but I think it most possible tha the queen and some members of the royal family go to the memorial that the concert.
about charles, i sure he will be here, the concert is for to celebrete the diana's life and he was part of that life, for respect to the women with he had 2 sons, he will be there and for support william and harry too

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk
I actually don't think Camilla or Charles will attend. Nor will any other senior member of the Royal Family. First of all, I think Camilla's attendance is just wrong..they weren't friends when she was alive...so why would she want to attend. Charles is another matter...but he won' go due to loyalty to his wife...and he should be loyal to her. I just don't see any of family members attending. IMO this is just the media throwing out names without any concrete proof to start up the Diana vs. Camilla thing again. But we have six months to plan it so we will see.

William and Harry have both stated that the family from both sides will be attending the memorial service and that includes Camilla.

btsnyder 12-12-2006 03:48 PM

Do you think the Duchess of Cornwall will attend these events? I know it's been a decade and I DO think the Duchess is fantastic, but I imagine it would be a bit awkward. What does everyone think?

Zonk 12-12-2006 03:51 PM

Yes, they did say that...but they didn't state any specific names. And we got six months...so things can change. And again, Camilla could attend but I personally think its tacky. And for the record, I would think it would be tacky if the positions were reversed. I won't go into the whole Diana/Camilla/Charles debate because that has been discussed enough but hopefully you understand what I am saying.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther2000
So much for the Media forcing the boys into doing something that they did not want to do.:rolleyes:
she & Charles will always be tied together because of that.
No one is looking forward to that day.

If you had read the posts correctly, before jumping on your high horse, you would have seen that it was a hope they were not being forced into anything, but, as we will never know whether they decided to do this off their own backs or had been backed into a corner ...

Ex husbands and wives are never tied together, they may have an association to remember but tied, hardly. :lol:

It must be marvelous to be able to state with such certainty, that you know exactly that no one is looking forward to a particular event. It will be in a church, with friends and family, IMO, they will be looking forward to it.

Oppie 12-12-2006 03:53 PM

Yes, the Duchess of Cornwall will attend the memorial service.

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There will be a memorial service in London on 31st August 2007.

Prince William and Prince Harry have invited members of The Royal Family including Her Majesty The Queen, The Duke of Edinburgh, The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall, as well as Lady Sarah McCorquodale, Lady Jane Fellowes and Earl Spencer, all of whom will attend.
https://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news...262522807.html

One of the articles said that they wouldn't be at the concert though, but I can't find which one.

corazon 12-12-2006 03:57 PM

the memorial and the concert are very diferent events, the momorial is the formal event but the concert is most for young people

Skydragon 12-12-2006 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk
Yes, they did say that...but they didn't state any specific names. And we got six months...so things can change. And again, Camilla could attend but I personally think its tacky. And for the record, I would think it would be tacky if the positions were reversed.

It's a memorial service, being held for family and friends, as Harry has stated, he and William think their stepmum is wonderful, I really can't see them saying, 'it might be better if you didn't come'.

Why on earth would it be seen as tacky, like most people I have had to go to memorial services for people I couldn't stand, it is simply the done thing.

re Charles being a widower, only in the eyes of the Church of England, by law he was divorced.

ysbel 12-12-2006 03:59 PM

In my opinion, its not necessary for Camilla to have liked Diana (or vice versa) to attend the concert or the memorial service.

It all depends on the relationship Camilla has with William and Harry which by all accounts seems to be good. If she cares about her stepsons and she wants to respect their feelings, its quite possible that she would want to put her own personal feelings aside and attend the concert to show some support for their wish to honor their mother. Liking or not liking Diana wouldn't necessarily come into the equation.

I agree it may be awkward, but William Harry Charles and Camilla seem like they're willing to undergo a little awkwardness in public reaction in order to respect their actual feelings.

sassie 12-12-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
That is the sentiment normally held by ex wives, trying to keep their claws into their ex husband.

Once the children are grown, there is normally no need for contact on a social or financial level, with ex's.

Financially, no. Socially, yes. When grown children get married, when they have children of their own, there's always a good chance that the former marrieds will meet socially. Or are you suggesting that every single former married couple with children never meets again in their lifetimes?

Zonk 12-12-2006 04:09 PM

As long as we are expressing personal opinions...I am going to stick with mine that Camilla attending Diana's memorial service is tacky. They weren't friends, they didn't like each other. Now towards the end of her life, Diana was respectful of Camilla's role in Charle's life...but they weren't girls. They were not going to go out for a drink anytime soon. I think we all know the history. And that's what I am basing my opinion on...and again..if the positions were reversed and Diana was to attend Camilla's...I think that would be tacky as well. And I am pretty sure...that some of her detractors would question her motives.

Now in regards to the relationship that Camilla has with Diana's sons...yes, they do appear close and I am sure that they have discussed this concert/memorial so whatever they decide to do is up to them. I am sure they are not thinking about Zonk in the US and how she feels about it!

Again...in my personal opinion...having Camilla attend any of the events is going to take make this more of a media circus than normal. The media (who can't move on to save their lives) is going to focus on the negative...the Camilla/Diana/Charles relationship. and not focus on the celebration of her life. And that is supposed to be the purpose of the celebration right?

Skydragon 12-12-2006 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sassie
Financially, no. Socially, yes. When grown children get married, when they have children of their own, there's always a good chance that the former marrieds will meet socially. Or are you suggesting that every single former married couple with children never meets again in their lifetimes?

Weddings yes, other events definitly not by choice. Lets face it, if they did not get on when they were married, what would be the point of meeting up socially.

I know of very few couples that have dinner parties and invite the ex, or that would go out of their way to attend a function they know will have the ex there as well.

There will always be exceptions, but, I believe it is very rare.

hornsen 12-12-2006 05:15 PM

And again Camilla canŽt win. If she stays at home youŽll say: Diana has conquers her, she isnŽt really a part of BRF, she feels guilty or even she is to arrogant, she doesnŽt care for Diana or her sons...
If she is going youŽll say: a shame, what does she dare, she wants to show her triumph...
I think its a wish of Charles and their sons. They want to show: We are a family now but, weŽve not forgotten Diana. She is a part of our past. Camilla is future queen, wife of Charles, she has the right to come. I think there will be many others who didnŽt like Diana or vice versa. No one will care about them. And Camilla will have the taste to be in the background. She will wear clothes without attracting attention. And she will not feel well. But she will keep up like ever.

btsnyder 12-12-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ysbel
In my opinion, its not necessary for Camilla to have liked Diana (or vice versa) to attend the concert or the memorial service.

It all depends on the relationship Camilla has with William and Harry which by all accounts seems to be good. If she cares about her stepsons and she wants to respect their feelings, its quite possible that she would want to put her own personal feelings aside and attend the concert to show some support for their wish to honor their mother. Liking or not liking Diana wouldn't necessarily come into the equation.

I agree it may be awkward, but William Harry Charles and Camilla seem like they're willing to undergo a little awkwardness in public reaction in order to respect their actual feelings.

Well said, Ysabel.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk
Again...in my personal opinion...having Camilla attend any of the events is going to take make this more of a media circus than normal. The media (who can't move on to save their lives) is going to focus on the negative...the Camilla/Diana/Charles relationship. and not focus on the celebration of her life. And that is supposed to be the purpose of the celebration right?

The concert is, IMO, the celebration of her life, the memorial service is to remember her and what she did for charity.

Contrary to what some people believe, IMO Camilla and Diana were friendly towards each other until the troubles Charles and Diana went through at the time of Harry's birth. But, as you say, best not to rekindle that argument.

Oppie 12-12-2006 05:19 PM

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And again Camilla canŽt win. If she stays at home youŽll say: Diana has conquers her, she isnŽt really a part of BRF, she feels guilty or even she is to arrogant, she doesnŽt care for Diana or her sons...
If she is going youŽll say: a shame, what does she dare, she will show her triumph...
I agree with you and I think they found a good soloution she is going to the memorial service with the rest of the family, but not going to the concert (if that story is true). Since Lady Sarah, Lady Jane and the Earl Spencer are all confirmed to be there with Camilla I guess both families are ok with the situation.

Besides having Camilla invovled could be helpful, since she is friends with the Take That guys (or has at least met them) maybe she can convince Robbie to come back as well.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hornsen
And again Camilla canŽt win. If she stays at home youŽll say: Diana has conquers her, she isnŽt really a part of BRF, she feels guilty or even she is to arrogant, she doesnŽt care for Diana or her sons...
If she is going youŽll say: a shame, what does she dare, she wants to show her triumph...
I think its a wish of Charles and their sons. They want to show: We are a family now but, weŽve not forgotten Diana. She is a part of our past. Camilla is future queen, wife of Charles, she has the right to come. I think there will be many others who didnŽt like Diana or vice versa. No one will care about them.

Very well said. I think she will attend, in support of her husband and her stepsons, whose lives she has been a part of for the last decade!

Panther2000 12-12-2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
If you had read the posts correctly, before jumping on your high horse, you would have seen that it was a hope they were not being forced into anything, but, as we will never know whether they decided to do this off their own backs or had been backed into a corner ...

Ex husbands and wives are never tied together, they may have an association to remember but tied, hardly. :lol:

It must be marvelous to be able to state with such certainty, that you know exactly that no one is looking forward to a particular event. It will be in a church, with friends and family, IMO, they will be looking forward to it.

Well, here are some tissues for your nosebleed:rolleyes: . Talk about high horse Please, that dog don't hunt. You don't want to go there;)
& I stand by my statement.


But I will standed correct: Her Family & Friends who actually LOVED her both look forward & also dread the day(of course her family & friends would rather that she be here in life).

Back on topic now

It is a good thing that they wanted to something that know will make her happy. & That just a church service alone wouldn't going to do it.

Being that She loved Music & Dance. & Like William stated it is a celebration of her life & the fun she loved to have. & Frankly, It is a great idea. Like William said it would be the best Birthday celebration she would have had.

as for the memorial service. I do feel for camila. No matter which way she turns she can't comeout looking good. People are going to have issues no matter what she does.

sophie25 12-12-2006 05:29 PM

Whoever was right or wrong Diana most certainly considered Camilla's continued relationship with her husband to be thee major cause of her marraige breaking up and she said so publicly. Therefore I think that the Duchess of Cornwall's attendance at any of these events would be in poor taste and would be seen to be in poor taste in the eyes of most members of the public.

Skydragon 12-12-2006 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther2000
Well, here are some tissues for your nosebleed:rolleyes: . Talk about high horse Please, that dog don't hunt. You don't want to go there;)
& I stand by my statement.

Seems we constantly need an interpreter for your strange comments. I don't suffer from nosebleeds, nor do I use tissues. :ermm: :wacko:

Skydragon 12-12-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by angela
Therefore I think that the Duchess of Cornwall's attendance at any of these events would be in poor taste and would be seen to be in poor taste in the eyes of most members of the public.

No, most members of the public have read all the accounts, listened to both sides and moved on, as Harry and William have done. :rolleyes:

Zonk 12-12-2006 05:34 PM

Angela...that's exactly my point.

Skydragon...we must agree to disagree but that is okay.

Lord....to think we have six months of this! I just wish they announced this concert in April! I am an admirer of Diana (recognizing her faults) but why do always do this to ourselves :) It never ends.

That move on comment (this is not just directed to you Skydragon) always amazes me! In what way, have William and Harry moved on...they are living in the present surely..and have a relationship with Camilla...but I don't think they have moved on from their loving and missing their mother. Does anyone who has lost a loved one really move on? You move on from a bad relationship, you move on to a better job, you don't move on when losing a loved one.

Oppie 12-12-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk
Angela...that's exactly my point.

Skydragon...we must agree to disagree but that is okay.

Lord....to think we have six months of this! I just wish they announced this concert in April! I am an admirer of Diana (recognizing her faults) but why do always do this to ourselves :) It never ends.

Six months of what ???? there is a press release it says Camilla is going, unless she gets pink eye it is a done deal.

There are much more important things to speculate about such as how can I get Coldplay and Nelly Furtado on the bill, so I can hear a live version of All Good Things. ;)

ysbel 12-12-2006 05:43 PM

Let's leave out the personal comments directed at other members, please.

Thanks.

ysbel
British forums moderator

Zonk 12-12-2006 05:46 PM

Actually..it said who was invited...it never said that everyone has accepted the invitations.

And I personally...would love to see the Reunion of the Spice Girls...but that is just me :) I don't believe Diana was a fan.

ysbel 12-12-2006 05:51 PM

Wonder if Victoria would bring hubby David? Then there would be a total media circus regardless if Camilla came or not! :biggrin:

The one band I hope doesn't get back together for the concert is Duran Duran. One time in the 80s was enough for me. <yeck> I still have nightmares from 'Bad Boys'

sassie 12-12-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
Weddings yes, other events definitly not by choice. Lets face it, if they did not get on when they were married, what would be the point of meeting up socially.

I know of very few couples that have dinner parties and invite the ex, or that would go out of their way to attend a function they know will have the ex there as well.

There will always be exceptions, but, I believe it is very rare.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Oppie 12-12-2006 05:53 PM

The press release stated who was invited and the last line was all will attend, .....I just don't understand why there is still speculation Camilla was invited and it was stated that she would attend.

More speculation I wonder if Bryan Adams will be there as well, maybe he could play the song he wrote for her. :smile:

ysbel 12-12-2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oppie
The press release stated who was invited and the last line was all will attend, .....I just don't understand why there is still speculation Camilla was invited and it was stated that she would attend.

More speculation I wonder if Bryan Adams will be there as well, maybe he could play the song he wrote for her. :smile:

Bryan Adams wrote a song for Diana? What was it?

sirhon11234 12-12-2006 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydragon
I was being sarcastic, it gets the better of me sometimes! :flowers:

Why is there a presumption that her ex husband should contribute anything? When you divorce, it severs all ties IMO, otherwise the men and women who have 3, 4, 5 ex's would be very busy and very much out of pocket.

Just because Charles and Diana were divorced it didn't mean that they were out of each other's lives. They shared two kids with each other and both Charles and Diana became friends before Diana passed.

Incas 12-12-2006 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ysbel
Bryan Adams wrote a song for Diana? What was it?

I think it was called "Diana".

Oppie 12-12-2006 06:03 PM

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Bryan Adams wrote a song for Diana? What was it?
1985, it was a single I don't think that it was ever on a CD.

Lyrics : https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bryanadams/diana.html

(ok now that I read the lyrics song is a little creppy, just keep in mind the year it was released)

Oh and Duran Duran will defiently be there as well.

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"The concert next summer seems an entirely fitting way to celebrate her life and her work. We are honoured that she always referred to Duran Duran as her favourite band as she was certainly our favourite princess. We are delighted to have been asked to participate in what promises to be a very special event."
https://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news...262522807.html

Sorry Ysbel :rofl:

ysbel 12-12-2006 06:13 PM

I don't remember that song at all!

Duran Duran, why Duran Duran! I know Diana liked them but that was when she first married before her tastes changed.

I'm not looking forward to the big hair and the ridiculous posing.

love_cc 12-12-2006 06:20 PM

I think it is generous for the boys to invite Camilla to attend the memorial service to remember their mother. It will be a good gesture for the boys to invite both sides of their family to join together and put aside the history and look forward to the future.
I think Camilla will attend the event will be hard for everyone, not only the public but Camilla and Charles themselves. However they are not there only to remember Diana but also supporting the boys as an united family. As normal people, we may put our feelings before everything, but as royals,they would put personal feelings behind what is necessarily done. The boys are great!

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 06:27 PM

Generous? Charles would not go without Camilla and to leave Camilla out would be the greatest insult. Let's not forget that these boys are not in charge here. The Palace is. They don't dictate. They may front the plans because they're better to do so given the circumstance but let none of us be under the illusion that they have any sway over this. And seeing as all talk of cost has conveniently dissapeared when the topic split - who exactly is paying for this and if we're paying for it, how much is it going to cost us and is it a voluntary contribution?

Oppie 12-12-2006 06:37 PM

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seeing as all talk of cost has conveniently dissapeared when the topic split - who exactly is paying for this and if we're paying for it, how much is it going to cost us and is it a voluntary contribution?
The tickets are 45 (I don't have the money symbol) so I would assume that the tickets prices are set to be enough to cover the costs and a contribution to the charities.

As for the memorial service, not much information out there.

From the concert website

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Are the artists performing for free?
Yes, all the artists will be performing for free, although the concert organisers will cover performance costs.
https://www.concertfordiana.com/tickets/

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 06:39 PM

I very much doubt that ticket prices will cover the entire cost. A memorial service doesn't cost anything but there is security I suppose. I'm a little cynical that this is as cost friendly as it sounds. I just hope that the tax-payer won't be landed with any of the tab.

Oppie 12-12-2006 06:49 PM

Press Release has added those on the advisory board.

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Nicholas Coleridge, Managing Director of Condé Nast
Andy Cosslett, Chief Executive of Intercontinental Hotels
Lucian Grainge, Chairman and Chief Executive of Universal Music
Nicholas Hytner, Director of the National Theatre
Lady Sarah McCorquodale
Sir Tom Shebbeare, Director of The Prince’s Charities
Willie Walsh, Chief Executive of British Airways
So it looks like the sponsers will be Conde Nast, Intercontinental, Universal Music and British Airways.

Party in the Park made 1 000 000 in 2004 that was the only number I could find. Anyone remember how much tickets were ?

Either way, this doesn't sound like an government sponsered event so I doubt that the tax payer will be paying for anything.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 06:51 PM

Party in the Park is usually free I believe and tickets are alloted through a ballot.

Oppie 12-12-2006 06:53 PM

I doubt there is anything to worry about if Party in the Park can make a million with free tickets and Live 8 which donated 1.6 to the Princes Trust also having free tickets, they are going to rake in the money for this event.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 06:54 PM

And if they don't? Who picks up the bill?

Madame Royale 12-12-2006 06:54 PM

What a read...:wacko:

Should be a wonderful celebration though :flowers:

I will say that upon learning of Camilla's attendance (?), that I did greet it with reservation, and, not much has changed in the last 2 hours.

As a tribute to the late Diana - Princess of Wales and her lifes work, I just can't see why (other than being the wife of the Prince of Wales, which is a notable reason I would assume) Camilla needs to be there. I just find the Duchess' presence to be a little unmannerly to the memory of this extroardinary lady to be honest.

But, I'm not privy to the reasons behind Camilla attending so I shall not assume to know that I am.

Some won't agree with this post and that's fine ;) It really doesn't phase or bother me to be honest (not to sound ostentatious) but that is what makes up the RF...differences of opinion :smile:

And keep in mind: I'm actually fond of Camilla so this isn't a show of personal dislike for her be any means.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 06:55 PM

Camilla is there as the official consort to the Prince of Wales and stepmother to William and Harry. They obviously love her enough to invite her. Remember what Harry said? "We love her to bits". There were those who were determined that he was making it up but now we see it's true. They want Camilla there. And she will be there.

Oppie 12-12-2006 06:57 PM

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And if they don't? Who picks up the bill?
I guess the sponsers, I don't know the ins and outs of British Entertainment law but I don't understand how this could become the governments problem even if they end up in the hole. It will be those who put there money up front to cover the costs that won't get reimbursed but that is a gamble that they would be taking.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 07:00 PM

No no, the sponsors never pay for anything. Sponsorship is business. They'd expect alot of money out of it. The sponsors put their logos on and give a lump sum to the organisers but apart from that, they won't meet any more costs. So you either turn a concert for a dead person into a meat market or you have one very wealthy sponsor. Let's be honest - we will end up paying for some part of the concert even if it's only security and the clean-up afterwards. It's a gamble alright.

Madame Royale 12-12-2006 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Camilla is there as the official consort to the Prince of Wales and stepmother to William and Harry. They obviously love her enough to invite her. Remember what Harry said? "We love her to bits". There were those who were determined that he was making it up but now we see it's true. They want Camilla there. And she will be there.

Well, wherever Diana is I'm sure she feels no contempt or disdain for those who hurt her :smile:

Its those of us here, who are left to debate it.lol.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 07:03 PM

Well, I don't really see what there is to debate. She's going and thats that.

sirhon11234 12-12-2006 07:05 PM

Of course, Camilla should be there. I'am sure she will be there to show support for Wills and Harry, and to celebrate Diana's life. I think alot of people will find it as an insult if she didn't show. But then again some people will see it as an insult if she does show up.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 07:06 PM

Of course this does beg the question - when is enough enough? I mean, are we going to have one of these every ten years?

Oppie 12-12-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
No no, the sponsors never pay for anything. Sponsorship is business. They'd expect alot of money out of it. The sponsors put their logos on and give a lump sum to the organisers but apart from that, they won't meet any more costs. So you either turn a concert for a dead person into a meat market or you have one very wealthy sponsor. Let's be honest - we will end up paying for some part of the concert even if it's only security and the clean-up afterwards. It's a gamble alright.

But that is what the VAT is for (unless it gets waived), and additional money (hotels, food) from people coming to London for the concert, plus the actually tickets fees. I still can't see how they will lose money. I would also assume the 'books' on this would be made public.

AuroraB 12-12-2006 07:07 PM

Isn't it more important to care about the feelings of the living, who invited you, than the dead? It would be a slap in the face to William and Harry if Camilla said no to the memorial service IMO.

Caswallan 12-12-2006 07:11 PM

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Well, I don't really see what there is to debate. She's going and thats that.
So you rang her up and got confirmation of this? :lol:

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 07:12 PM

Possibly. I did however, use my ears. We've been told that she will definately be attending with the Prince of Wales. So I sort of think she'll be there.

LOSSEAN 12-12-2006 07:12 PM

It's just great that her sons are at the forefront of organising these events - the memorial service and the concert. I love the title 'Concert for Diana'. It sounds so right. A celebration of her wonderful life. Though it was short, it had so much meaning for many of us. Though it ended tragically, there is so much remembrance of all that was beautiful and lovely associated with it.

I congratulate TRH Prince William and Prince Harry for wanting to commemorate this 10th anniversary of their mother's passing with such meaningful events. I love the interview and they emphasized that they want the concert to be fun just as their mother would have wanted. They obviously love her and want her remembered as she deserves. I cannot see any sign of ill-will or rancour on their part. So let's just support them in this endeavour and leave all the unfair speculations aside.

sirhon11234 12-12-2006 07:12 PM

haha
 
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Originally Posted by Caswallan
So you rang her up and got confirmation of this? :lol:

That was funny:flowers:

Madame Royale 12-12-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan
Well, I don't really see what there is to debate. She's going and thats that.

Well, for someone who doesn't see what there is to debate, your doing a good job of it :rolleyes:.lol.

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Of course this does beg the question - when is enough enough? I mean, are we going to have one of these every ten years?
Because there has already been a celebration, yeah :neutral:

Hmmm, if I have my years right, 2007 shall mark the tenth year of her passing so who said anything about a concert every 10 years? Get through the first one first. Of course if it doesn't pain you (which I'm guessing it shall) too much, BeatrixFan.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 07:14 PM

I find it very odd how this is being done on the 10th anniversary of a death. Surely if you want to commemorate a life you'd wait for a milestone such as a 50th? This just strikes me as very strange. The Princes dont want people trading on their mother's name - so they set up a concert and open it up to big businesses.

sirhon11234 12-12-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LOSSEAN
It's just great that her sons are at the forefront of organising these events - the memorial service and the concert. I love the title 'Concert for Diana'. It sounds so right. A celebration of her wonderful life. Though it was short, it had so much meaning for many of us. Though it ended tragically, there is so much remembrance of all that was beautiful and lovely associated with it.

I congratulate TRH Prince William and Prince Harry for wanting to commemorate this 10th anniversary of their mother's passing with such meaningful events. I love the interview and they emphasized that they want the concert to be fun just as their mother would have wanted. They obviously love her and want her remembered as she deserves. I cannot see any sign of ill-will or rancour on their part. So let's just support them in this endeavour and leave all the unfair speculations aside.

Exactly but so many people I call "haters" will try to say something negative about this great occasion.

BeatrixFan 12-12-2006 07:18 PM

Well, maybe the "haters" are just getting a little tired of this endless saga. The inquest will be over this week. If this concert is a closing farewell then fine and enjoy it - but then that should be it IMO. It should just be finished after that. Then we can all look to the future.

sirhon11234 12-12-2006 07:26 PM

BeatrixFan we are all looking forward towards the future. But it isn't wrong to remember those who aren't with us anymore.

politikgirl 12-12-2006 10:16 PM

I'm not getting involved in this debate...

I just watched the interview with William & Harry about the concert. It sounds like the princes are getting very involved with it, and they seem very genuinely excited about it. I think Diana would be very proud of them. :D

corazon 12-12-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by politikgirl
I just watched the interview with William & Harry about the concert. It sounds like the princes are getting very involved with it, and they seem very genuinely excited about it. I think Diana would be very proud of them. :D

I totally agree with you:flowers:

corazon 12-12-2006 10:36 PM

come on people, the concert is a party to celebrete the diana's life don't the diana dead, the boys love so much thier mother and for them this is the best way to honred their mother, are their mother's boys.
The important or the point don't is if camila will be there or not, taht os a personal choice, she want go she go, she don't want go don't go, it's very simple.

The memorial is a event more formal, for eduation camilla was invited for be the wife of charles.

this don't is only a concert for diana's life, a concert do with money etc etc etc, is a concert for charity with diana's name, very similar to the freddie mercury tribute in 1992.

This event leave clear another situation, wills and harry suport the diana princess of wales memorial fund, many times the press said the boys don't was in good relations with their uncle for the fundation.

I said it again, this is a party, may be in 10 or 30 years, diana will be remember with a memorial service for be a princess for 15 years, a public figure and the mother of a king, don't with a concert.
william and harry were very clear, the memorial in august 31, the party in july 1.

love_cc 12-12-2006 10:40 PM

Inviting Camilla to the memorial service is a bit unexpected for most of us. If this is Prince William and Prince Harry's wish, we shall respect that. They are the most important legacies of Diana, Princess of Wales. Being friendly towards their stepmother is a good thing for Wales family and British royal family as a whole.I appreciate their generosity on this issue.
For who shall foot the bill? I have no clear idea. I understand some British citizens are unwilling for this because this cost their huge money.There will be a solution either from Prince Charles using his Duchy of Cornwall fund or other sources of fund to memorize Diana, Princess of Wales.

corazon 12-12-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by love_cc
Inviting Camilla to the memorial service is a bit unexpected for most of us. If this is Prince William and Prince Harry's wish, we shall respect that. They are the most important legacies of Diana, Princess of Wales. Being friendly towards their stepmother is a good thing for Wales family and British royal family as a whole.I appreciate their generosity on this issue.
For who shall foot the bill? I have no clear idea. I understand some British citizens are unwilling for this because this cost their huge money.There will be a solution either from Prince Charles using his Duchy of Cornwall fund or other sources of fund to memorize Diana, Princess of Wales.

yes, you're right, i have to agree. if is william and harry's wish we have to respect.

charles used the duchy of cornwall for many things, and if he used one part for this is good for him, diana was his first wife and the mother of his children.
but here nobody said, william and harry have their own money, the legacy of their mother and the legacy of the queen mother.

they can used the diana money until the 25 years old and william will be in june

deafhaitian 12-13-2006 12:54 AM

That was cool to see William and Harry's face, they are real HANDSOMES, wow!... I wish to hear their voices on the TV interviewing yesterday but I can't hear because I am deaf...:blush:
Awww, it is nice of them think of keeping their mother memorial and cencert alive, they must miss their mother so much. How sweet of them, they invite their step mother, Camille to be attended at. Their :heart: mother did a good job to teach them how doing matter and treating people as inviting their step mother. I respect their :flowers: wishes because of the Royal. I wish their best on 2 events of their mother.


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