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lula 09-01-2006 09:55 AM

State Visit from Portugal to Spain: September 25-28, 2006
 
Information of the Presidency of the Republic of Portugal

https://www.presidencia.pt/index.php?...9&id_item=1417 (in portuguese)

Visit of State of the President of the Republic to Spain

The President of the Republic will displease Spain, in Visit of State, from the 25th to September 28.

https://www.europapress.es/europa2003...&tabID=1&ch=69

Spain will be the first official visit of Cavaco Silva, from September 25 to September 28

The president of the Republic of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, has chosen Spain for his first official visit, at the invitation of the King Juan Carlos. The Chief of the State lusa will visit Madrid between 25 and on September 28, it announced today Belem's Palace.

At the invitation of the King of Spain, dealed last March 9 during the capture of Cavaco's possession as president, the chief of the Portuguese State will visit Madrid and Asturias accompanied of his wife, Maria Cavaco Silva.

During his stay in the Principality the president luso will be accompanied by the princes of Asturias, Don Felipe and Dona Letizia.

Elsa M. 09-01-2006 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
The president of the Republic of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, has chosen Spain for his first official visit

Thanks for being on top of things, lula. Just a little correction here: it's not his first official visit abroad, but his first State Visit. ;)
There will certainly be a gala dinner... I just hope the First Lady will get some fashion advisement before, since her sense of style always seems to come from her grandmother's closet... :devil: :whistling:

lula 09-02-2006 03:41 AM

https://www.lavozdeasturias.com/notic...sp?pkid=292330

The Princes, hosts of the Portuguese president

The president of the Republic of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, has chosen Spain for his first visit of state, at the invitation of the King Juan Carlos and the itinerary of the trip it will include Asturias. The Chief of the State luso will visit Madrid between 25 and on September 28, as announced yesterday on Friday officially Belem's Palace. A gesture understood as symptom of the best relations.

At the invitation of the King of Spain, dealed last March 9 during the capture of Cavaco's possession as president, the chief of the Portuguese State will visit Madrid and Asturias accompanied of his wife, Maria Cavaco Silva.

The Princes of Asturias Don Felipe and Dona Letizia will practise as hosts of the new agent chief executive luso and his wife during their stay in the Principality of which still the agenda is not known.

Teresa 09-02-2006 05:27 AM

I can't wait to see Maria's choice of clothes :rofl:

micas 09-02-2006 08:17 AM

Eh eh... that is bad, bur i can't wait for the same things...eh eh eh. I just hope she found some one that can help her...!

Lunalu 09-02-2006 10:41 AM

:shock: Ok, now I'm really curious : what are those "special" clothes she wears?
It can't be THAT bad (no?)!!!
Anybody has a picture-exemple of it?
Thanx :smile:

Elsa M. 09-02-2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunalu
Anybody has a picture-exemple of it?

Mmm... I'm afraid you'll have the chance to see it by yourself on September 25-28th...:lol:

But well, here's the example of a hideous hat (not to mention the rest) she wore at the wedding of the Duke of Bragança, in 1995.
Photos scanned from Olá Semanário:
https://img312.imageshack.us/img312/5173/scan0001qz3.jpg
https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...4&d=1111614300

WindsorIII 09-02-2006 12:37 PM

Oh my, I guess she could use a stylist.

Hopefully it was just a mishap. :rolleyes:

micas 09-02-2006 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elsa M.
Mmm... I'm afraid you'll have the chance to see it by yourself on September 25-28th...:lol:

But well, here's the example of a hideous hat (not to mention the rest) she wore at the wedding of the Duke of Bragança, in 1995.
Photos scanned from Olá Semanário:
https://img312.imageshack.us/img312/5173/scan0001qz3.jpg
https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...4&d=1111614300

Ohh.. that is a good exemple..eh eh! She go to a wedding wear that fabulos white tailleur. :lol: Well, we just have to wait and see, after all people change....:rofl:

Lunalu 09-03-2006 08:42 AM

Thanks Elsa, I agree it's bad :smile:, but I already expected some flashy-green-perroquet-free-style outfit, so it actually conforts me, LOL :lol: !

Juanita 09-14-2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micas
Ohh.. that is a good exemple..eh eh! She go to a wedding wear that fabulos white tailleur. :lol: Well, we just have to wait and see, after all people change....:rofl:

I'm not so sure... Today, in the news, she appeared and i have to say she was "nice" as always :lol: I don't want to be bad but she is a little shabby, no ofense.
I was wondering: when will we have all the acts they will be present?

Elsa M. 09-14-2006 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ...JuAnItA...
I was wondering: when will we have all the acts they will be present?

Presidência da República usually publishes the schedules just one day prior to the events...
https://www.presidencia.pt/index.php?id_categoria=11

lula 09-14-2006 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elsa M.
Presidência da República usually publishes the schedules just one day prior to the events...
https://www.presidencia.pt/index.php?id_categoria=11

...and the Royal House will do it probably next week.;)

Normally these trips have a fixed agenda. The Kings will receive them in the Palace of El Pardo, there will be a luncheon in Zarzuela, the dinner in the Royal Palace and the receipt of the Portuguese President to the Kings in El Pardo. In this occasion, the Portuguese President also will visit Asturias, the Princes will accompany him and will inaugurate an exhibition of a Portuguese artist.It seems that the Portuguese President will have more acts in Asturias, it can only to know if the Princes will accompany him also or only they will do it in the exhibition.;)

lula 09-17-2006 10:27 AM

https://www.elcomerciodigital.com/pre..._20060917.html

Adriana Molder's faces

The young Portuguese artist mentions, in the Museum Fine arts of Asturias, before her singular works, to the Princes of Asturias with the president luso Cavaco Silva, which will inaugurate her exhibition

In Spain she is an almost a stranger, though Adriana Molder, native of Lisbon of the last quarter of century, already offered this spring a part of her talent in our country, sharing walls in the collective one dedicated to the Portuguese art in the Museum Union Fenosa of Coruña. Her real scene is Berlin. There she is obtaining successes, new sap and the assumption of an internationality in the one that possesses the support of her own government. With everything she comes now to Asturias. In the scene of major character, the Museum of Fine arts, the close one will take place 28 of September, her real Spanish disembarkation. In fact, her adventure in this land is marked in the royal agenda of the Princes of Asturias, who will come to the inauguration, in company of the president of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva.
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Elsa M. 09-17-2006 11:03 AM

https://www.publico.clix.pt/shownews.asp?id=1268908

A source from the Presidency of the Republic said to Lusa that the President's choice of Spain for his first State Visit is explained by the importance that Cavaco Silva has always dedicated to the relations with the Spanish State. "With the choice of Spain for the first State Visit, the President of the Republic wants to underline, on the other hand, and in a personal level, the very particular esteam towards king Juan Carlos".

Cavaco Silva and Juan Carlos of Spain had met a few times, during the years that the current President of the Republic hold the title of Prime-Minister (1986-1996). The current head of State and former head of Government belongs to the Club of Madrid, an organization that congregates 44 former heads of State and Government that was created under the king of Spain's patroness, to promote the debate between international leaders. Cavaco Silva is also a member of the Royal Academy of Moral Sciences and Politics of Spain, since 1994.

lula 09-19-2006 05:36 PM

https://actualidad.terra.es/nacional/...do_1095824.htm

Cavaco chooses Madrid to highlight his first visit of State

The president of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, has chosen Spain as destiny of his first visit of State, next week, to highlight the importance of the relations between both countries, according to official sources.

The president will be accompanied by four ministers of the Government during the trip, first that he effects with the character protocolar of visit of State since he took possession of the cargo in last March, informed today EFE speakers of Belem's palace.

The agent chief executive luso will be accompanied by the ministers of Foreign Affairs, Luis Amado; of Economy, Manuel Pinho, of Environment, Francisco Nunes Correia and of Science and Technology, Mariano Gago.

The chief of state, they said the sources, he wants ' to emphasize the importance that attributes to the relations with the neighbors, and in the personal aspect, the very particular appreciation that deserves the figure of the king Juan Carlos '.

Cavaco belongs to the Club of Madrid, created by initiative of the Spanish Monarch to promote the debate between international leaders.

During his visit Spain, from 25 to 28 of this month, is foreseen that Cavaco Silva supports meetings with the king Juan Carlos and with the Spanish prime minister, Jose Luis Rodríguez Zapatero.

The invitation for this visit was transmitted to the president luso in last March by the Prince of Asturias, Felipe de Borbón, when this one was present at his capture of possession.

According to the official program, Cavaco Silva and his wife, Maria, will realize a visit to Asturias accompanied by the prince and his wife dona Leticia.

adelaide 09-21-2006 11:53 AM

In the style classical "Latin lover" the president of Portugal is a very handsome man, isen't it ?:blush:

lula 09-21-2006 12:51 PM

CALENDAR OF THE VISIT

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/508809-post7.html

September 25
King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofía
Official reception of the President of the Portuguese Republic and Ms of Cavaco Silva
Palace of El Pardo. Madrid

King, Princes of Asturias, Dukes of Palma
Lunch with the President of the Portuguese Republic and Ms of Cavaco Silva
Palace of The Zarzuela. Madrid

Royal Family
Dinner of w offered by Their Majesties the Kings in honor of the President of the Republic of Portugal and Ms of Cavaco Silva
Royal Palace. Madrid

September 26
Kings
Receipt in honor of Their Majesties the Kings offered by the President of the Portuguese Republic and Ms of Cavaco Silva
Palace of The Pardo. Madrid

Queen Sofía
With Sra. of Cavaco Silva
Visit to the National Museum Center of Art Queen Sofía
Madrid

September 27
Kings
Official farewell of the President of the Portuguese Republic and Ms of Cavaco Silva
Palace of El Pardo. Madrid

September 28
Princes of Asturias
With President Cavaco Silva and his wife
Visit to the Cathedral and to the Museum of Fine arts of Oviedo
Oviedo (Asturias)

lula 09-22-2006 01:47 PM

https://actualidad.terra.es/articulo/...id_1102113.htm

President Portugal initiates on Monday in Madrid the first official trip

The Portuguese president, Anibal Cavaco Forest, will initiate on Monday in Madrid his first visit of State since he took possession of his cargo, with a trip in the one that tries to highlight the importance of the bilateral relations between Spain and Portugal.

Cavaco, which will initiate his trip in Madrid and will close it with a visit to the Principality together with the Princes of Asturias, has foreseen to meet during his stay the Kings and the prime minister, Jose Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, as well as the leader of the Partido Popular, Mariano Rajoy, they informed sources of the Executive luso.
(...)

The president luso will land on Monday morning in Madrid, and will be got by the Kings in the Palace of El Pardo, where they will inspect to the troops, later, to move to the Palace of the Zarzuela where they will support a private luncheon.

In the evening, Cavaco will meet Rodríguez Zapatero and will offer a receipt to the Portuguese community in the Embassy of the country in Madrid, whereas in the night he will take part in a banquet of State offered by the Kings.

On the following day, beside supporting the second meeting with the Spanish president and a meeting with Mariano Rajoy, Cavaco will visit the Town hall of Madrid, the Congress of the Deputies and will offer an honoring to the victims of the terrorism in the park of El Retiro.

The Portuguese president accompanied by Don Felipe and Dona Letizia, will travel on Wednesday to Asturias, where he will meet the president of the Principality, Vicente Alvarez Areces, and will realize diverse visits before his return to Portugal on Thursday.

https://actualidad.terra.es/nacional/...ca_1101597.htm

Government grants the Necklace of Isabel Católica Order to Portuguese president

The Government resolved today granted the Necklace of Isabel la Cayolica Order to the president of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, besides the Great Cross of the same order to his wife and to other eight members of the Government luso.

These decorations are granted three days before the visit of State that the Portuguese president will realize to Spain from Monday invited by the King.
(...)

https://www.elcomerciodigital.com/200...609221908.html

The Princes will visit on Thursday the cathedral of Oviedo

The Princes of Asturias will visit on Thursday the Cathedral of Oviedo at 12:00. Later they will go to the Museum of Fine arts, where they will inaugurate an exhibition of the Portuguese artist Adriana Molder, in an act in which they will be accompanied by the president luso Cavaco Silva.
...

Museum of Fine arts of Asturias
https://www.museobbaa.com/

Oviedo Cathedral
https://www.spain.info/TourSpain/Arte...tm?Language=en

https://www.vivirasturias.com/asturia...edo/index.html

adelaide 09-22-2006 05:32 PM

What do you think about the Princess's gown for the diiner gala of the 25th? Can we imagine that she could wear her tremandous red one ? Why not because Letizia have as politic to repite her wardrobe and for this one, never she did it and the season is yet good for did.

It's a pur speculation, but why not ?

lula 09-22-2006 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adelaide
What do you think about the Princess's gown for the diiner gala of the 25th? Can we imagine that she could wear her tremandous red one ? Why not because Letizia have as politic to repite her wardrobe and for this one, never she did it and the season is yet good for did.

It's a pur speculation, but why not ?

Who does know? On Monday we will see the dress, if she repeats or has one new.;)

I believe that the red dress is very difficult to repeat. When a person causes so many admiration and impact with a dress, it is very difficult to return to take it in another act, because always it will seem that you have some intention on dressing it. Probably when more time passes turn it to dressing.

adelaide 09-22-2006 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
Who does know? On Monday we will see the dress, if she repeats or has one new.;)

I believe that the red dress is very difficult to repeat. When a person causes so many admiration and impact with a dress, it is very difficult to return to take it in another act, because always it will seem that you have some intention on dressing it. Probably when more time passes turn it to dressing.


On the principe, you are totally right and it's was for me only a wish, the dress and the jewelles are so stunning, but if we are:lucky: and if the Princess have a good:sorcerer: , may be!!!

donnaK 09-22-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adelaide
What do you think about the Princess's gown for the diiner gala of the 25th? Can we imagine that she could wear her tremandous red one ? Why not because Letizia have as politic to repite her wardrobe and for this one, never she did it and the season is yet good for did.

It's a pur speculation, but why not ?

I think sash and tiara will ruin the spectacular look of the red gown. I hope to see all the ladies (including the sisters of the King) in new gowns :flowers:.

Elsa M. 09-23-2006 07:03 AM

Here's the official program, from the Portuguese side:
https://www.presidencia.pt/index.php?id_categoria=11

State Visit of the President of the Republic and of Drª Maria Cavaco Silva to the Kingdom of Spain


September 25th

11:00 AM - Arrival at the International Airport of Barajas, Madrid

11.45 AM - Official welcome by the King and Queen of Spain (Palace of El Pardo)

2.15 PM - Meeting of the President of the Republic and of Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva with the King and Queen of Spain, along with the Prince and Princess of Asturias (Palace of La Zarzuela).
Exchange of Gifts and Decorations

2.45 PM - Private lunch of the President of the Republica and his wife with the Kings of Spain and the Princes of the Asturias

5.30 PM - Meeting of the President of the Republic and the President of the Spanish Government, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero

6.20 PM - Reception offered by the President of the Republica and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva in honor of the Local Portuguese Community (Residence of the Portuguese Ambassador in Madrid)

9.00 PM - Gala dinner offered by the King and queen of Spain in honor of the President of the Republic and of Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva (Royal Palace of Madrid)



September 26th

10:15 AM - Homage to the "Caídos por España" (Plaza de la Lealtad)

10.45 AM - Welcome ceremony, at the City Hall of Madrid, with the delivery of the town keys to the President of the Republic

11.45 AM - Homage of the President of the Republic and of Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva to the Victims of Terrorism with a musical moment interpreted by the Gulbenkian Choir (Memorial of Retiro)

12.20 AM - Closing Session of the "Organizations COTEC in support of the enterprise cooperation between Portugal and Spain" (Confederación Española de Organizaciones Empresariales)

2.15 PM - Lunch in honor of the President of the Republic and of Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva, offered by the President of the Government of Spain and his wife.

4.30 PM - Plenary session of the Congress and of the Senate in welcome to the President of the Republic.

6.15 PM - Meeting of the President of the Republic with the President of the Popular Party, Mariano Rajoy (Palace of El Pardo)

8.30 PM - Concert performed by the Gulbenkian Choir (Palace of El Pardo)

9.00 PM - Reception offered by the President of the Republica and his wife, in honor of the King and Queen of Spain (Palace of El Pardo)



September 27th

9:15 PM - Breakfast of the President of the Republic with the Administration of the Caixa Central Bank (Headquarters of Caixa Central)

10.15 AM - Visit of the President of the Republic and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva to the Astrobiology Center of the National Institute of Aerospace Technique "Esteban Terradas"
Signature of the Protocol between the Biotechnology Center (Spain), the Astrobiology Center (Spain) and the Institute of Neurobiology Ràmon y Caljal (Spain) and Associated Laboratory ITQB/IBET/IGC (Portugal)

11.40 AM - Visit of the President of the Republic and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva to the INAPA

1.00 PM - farewell ceremony of the King and Queen of Spain to the President of the Republic and Dr.ª Maria Local Cavaco Silva (Palace of El Pardo)

2.00 PM - Departure of the President of Republica and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva way to the Principality of Asturias (International airport of Barajas)

3.10 PM - Arrival of the President of the Republic and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva in Oviedo (Airport of Asturias)

4.35 PM - Meeting of the President of the Republic with the President of the Government of the Principality of Asturias (Palace of Conde Toreno)

5.55 PM - Visit of the President of the Republic to the Termoelectric Central of Aboño

9.30 PM - Dinner offered by the President of the Government of the Principality of the Asturias and his wife, in honor of the President of the Republic and his wife



September 28th

11:30 AM - Brief meeting of the President of the Republic and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva with the Princes of Asturias

11.40 AM - Stroll of the President of the Republic, Drª Maria Cavaco Silva and the Prince and Princess of the Asturias by the historical downtown of Oviedo

12.00 - visit to the Cathedral of Oviedo. Musical moment, interpreted by the Choir of the Cathedral. Visit to the Saint Chamber of the Cathedral.

12.45 - Visit of the President of the Republic, Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva and the Prince and Princess of Asturias to the Fine Arts Museum of Asturias. Inauguration of the exhibition "Encontro Marcado", by Adriana Molder.

1.15 PM - Continuation of the stroll by the historical downtown of Oviedo

2.15 PM - Farewell ceremony by the Princes of Asturias and other authorities to the President of the Republic and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva

2.30 PM - Departure of the President of the Republica and Dr.ª Maria Cavaco Silva way to Lisboa

lula 09-24-2006 08:01 AM

Thursday is going to be one day very get excited for the Princess:clap: , for the first time she will be the hostess of such an important visit in the city where she was born. She knows all good and she will be the best guide.

She will be able to return to walk for the streets of her city, thing that rarely she can do. Besides, probably the walk that they are going to do, will be similar to whom they made Letizia and the Prince when they went to have dinner for was celebrating the birthday of the Prince. ;)

https://www.lne.es/secciones/noticia....Noticia=445697

The Portuguese president will visit on Wednesday Aboño's plant

The president of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, will come next Wednesday to Asturias to inaugurate an exhibition of the Portuguese artist Adriana Molder and to visit HC's thermal plant Energy. Cavaco will move to the Principality from Madrid, where on Monday he initiates his first visit to Spain as chief of State.
(...)

On Thursday, the Princes of Asturias will travel to Oviedo to accompany Cavaco Silva in the concert that Prince will offer the Choir of the Foundation in the cathedral ovetense and in the inauguration of an exhibition in the Museum of Fine arts.

Adriana Molder's pictorial sample (Lisbon, 1975), that resides in Berlin, will exhibit in the art gallery ovetense 9 drawings in paper of big dimensions that will be located in the court of Velarde's palace and in the room of exhibitions of the museum.

For Areces, Cavaco Silva's visit constitutes " an important milestone to consolidate the institutional relations between Portugal and Asturias ", as well as a "excellent" opportunity in order that the businessmen of the region " penetrate into the cooperation and into the search of opportunities of business ".

lula 09-25-2006 05:55 AM

https://actualidad.terra.es/nacional/...do_1104415.htm

Cavaco Silva comes today to Madrid in his first visit of State

The Portuguese president, Anibal Cavaco Silva, comes today to Madrid in his first visit of State since he took possession of his cargo, with the intention of highlighting the importance of the bilateral relations between Spain and Portugal.

The president luso will be got this morning by the Kings in the Palace of El Pardo, where they will inspect to the troops, later, to move to the Palace of the Zarzuela where they will support a private luncheon.

In the evening, Cavaco will meet Rodríguez Zapatero and will offer a receipt to the Portuguese community in the Embassy of the country in Madrid, whereas in the night he will take part in a banquet of State offered by the Kings.

https://www.efe.es/detalleMultimedia/...poDetalle=Foto

The Portuguese president comes to Madrid in visit of State to Spain

Madrid, 25 sep (EFE) .-The Portuguese president, Anibal Cavaco Forest, came today at 11.00 hours to Madrid in his first visit of State to Spain since he took possession of his cargo, accompanied of four ministers of his cabinet.
Cavaco, which came accompanied by his wife, Maria Alves da Silva , it was got in the Pavilion of State of the airport of Madrid of Barajas by the minister of Foreign Affairs, Miguel Angel Moratinos, and the chief of the House of the King, Alberto Aza.
According to the forecasts, from the airport of Madrid the Portuguese president will move to the Palace of El Pardo, where it will be got by the Kings, and later they will go to the Palace of the Zarzuela, where they will support a private luncheon.
(...)

fanletizia 09-25-2006 06:53 AM

The Kings received to Cavaco Silva in his first visit of State Madrid.

The Kings received this noon in the Palace of the Brown to the president of Portugal, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, who initiates in Madrid his first visit of State since she took possession six months ago. Don Juan Carlos and Doña Sofía greeted to the agent chief executive luso and his wife, Maria, on foot of the Rolls Royce de Patrimonio Nacional that transferred to the visitor from the airport from Barajas to the Palace of the Brown, that will be its official residence. After listening to hymns of both countries and of which the safe ones of honor went off, both Chiefs of State reviewed a company of honors before raising the estrado one to preside over a parade of detachments of the Real Guard.

https://www.abc.es/20060925/nacional-...609251244.html

Images from terra

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fanletizia 09-25-2006 07:38 AM

From terra, yahoo/efe and casareal

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lula 09-25-2006 07:41 AM

From ANP
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Reuters via yahoo
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adelaide 09-25-2006 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donnaK
I think sash and tiara will ruin the spectacular look of the red gown. I hope to see all the ladies (including the sisters of the King) in new gowns :flowers:.

You are totally right, but she can wear as a tiara the Niarchos Rubies to match with the two brooches and the errings, why not?

But for the sach, is an other thing and, you are totally right it will be a true ruin for this exeptional gown....Too bad:kiss:

rchainho 09-25-2006 09:24 AM

the two ladies in white. lol

fanletizia 09-25-2006 09:40 AM

Images from seeger

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lula 09-25-2006 10:11 AM

From polfoto

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From terra

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mtbcm 09-25-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fanletizia
Images from seeger

Thank you fanletizia and lula for your coverage on Portuguese President visit to Spain...

Portuguese media should sign you both since there isn't a single photo in online means until now ;). I'll have to wait for TV coverage later on...


^~^~^~^


President Cavaco Silva offers Don Juan Carlos a PDA developed by a portuguese company


The President of the Republic, Cavaco Silva, will offer King Juan Carlos of Spain a digital personal assistant (PDA) with software of navigation conceived by a Portuguese company.

According to Lusa, the less common offer will be made in the usual exchange of gifts, that precedes the lunch of the first day of the Cavaco Silva State visit to Spain, that starts today and will last until thursday.

The computer geographic program, similar to localization by GPS, developed by the Portuguese company InfoPortugal, with headquarters in Porto, functions on mobile and PDA basis and covers 15 Euroepan countries.

Cavaco Silva arrived Spain about 11:00 (10: 00 in Portugal), after one flight of 55 minutes permanently followed by Spanish Air Force airplanes .

After the arrival, the President of the Republic was taken El Pardo (official residence of Heads of State that visit Spain), where they waited for the Kings of Spain and Prime Minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, and other members of Spanish government.

After passing together reviewed to Real Guarda with the Spanish monarchs, the Portuguese Head of State and his wife, Maria Cavaco Silva, fulfill a private program of the visit, that includes a new meeting with King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia.

In focus in the four days' visit of State will be the good moment of the peninsular relations and the national enterprise successes in the neighbour country.

Cavaco Silva first visit of State, that finishes next thursday, includes, on tuesday, a homage to the victims of the terrorist attacks of March 11th 2004, in Madrid.

After lunch, Cavaco Silva returns to the Palace of El Pardo, meeting in audience the Spanish Prime Minister, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

In the end of first day there will be a Gala Dinner honouring the Portuguese President, in Palácio Real of Madrid, offered by Kings of Spain, during which are foreseen interventions of Cavaco Silva and Don Juan Carlos.

The Ministers of Economy Manuel Pinho, Foreign Affairs Luis Amado, Environment Francisco Nunes, and Science, Technology and Superior Education Mariano Gago will follow Cavaco Silva in the visit .



In:https://www.portugaldiario.iol.pt/not...132&div_id=291

Anna_R 09-25-2006 10:56 AM

Letizia seems to have cut her hair. For what I can see it looks good, with some layers and maybe some highlights.

Her outfit is recycled, the same she's used to the Easter mass in April
https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...5-post181.html

lula 09-25-2006 11:14 AM

From polfoto

https://img60.imageshack.us/img60/925...let5mf6.th.jpg

kartheina 09-25-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Her outfit is recycled, the same she's used to the Easter mass in April
https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...5-post181.html
IMO, a closed jacket (as she had during the Easter mass) looks better than an open one... unless of course, she can no longer do so ;) :smile:

adelaide 09-25-2006 11:20 AM

Today, The princess looks very good, and I think too that she has cutted a little bite her hair or may be her brushing is absolutly perfect.

fanletizia 09-25-2006 11:25 AM

It is the second event where the jacket of Princess of Asturias is open...:rolleyes: :wub:

micas 09-25-2006 11:58 AM

Is open because she can't close him any more... just after may she gona be capable to close him.... eh eh eh!

fanletizia 09-25-2006 12:09 PM

The new mother:wub: today, from 20minutos
https://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6905/1by5.jpg


Doña Letizia will not attend supper by own annoyances pregnancy

The Princess de Asturias, who will have her second son at the beginning of the next month of May, will not attend the supper tonight in full dress which they will offer the Kings to the Portuguese president, Aníbal Cavaco Silva, informed to EFE a spokesman into the House into the King.

https://actualidad.terra.es/familia-r...na_1105871.htm

kartheina 09-25-2006 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kartheina
IMO, a closed jacket (as she had during the Easter mass) looks better than an open one... unless of course, she can no longer do so ;) :smile:

By now, I already know that she indeed has a very good reason to leave that jacket open. :lol: Congratulations again!

fanletizia 09-25-2006 12:39 PM

Images from seeger

https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8374/11iz1.th.jpg https://img45.imageshack.us/img45/8670/12qf9.th.jpg https://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7622/13tm4.th.jpg https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9789/15ve4.th.jpg https://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6231/16nv9.th.jpg

mtbcm 09-25-2006 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fanletizia
It is the second event where the jacket of Princess of Asturias is open...:rolleyes: :wub:


And if everything turns out ok it will be long before she can button them up again :flowers:

Back to the topic ;) Thank you for the update on photos; maybe it's me or maybe it's her but our First Lady looks very good; she even changed suits - I like that green-lime one; and the Princes are very very happy (Felipe está que le cae la baba:lol:)!!!!!

Regards,
mtbcm :smile:

ldt20 09-25-2006 12:55 PM

I'm sad Letizia won't be going to tonight's gala dinner. I was looking forward to seeing her wear a gala dress and tiara again.

LaChicaMadrilena 09-25-2006 01:13 PM

Pity she won't be at the cena de gala, but she has a very good reason for that, no doubt!!! :lol: God, I'm soooo happy she is pregnant again!

Juanita 09-25-2006 02:03 PM

Thank you for the photos!! :flowers:

Finally, our First Lady wasn't that bad at all! :lol:
The open jacket has the secret!

Teresa 09-25-2006 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...JuAnItA...
Finally, our First Lady wasn't that bad at all! :lol:

She was fine, if compared with things she has worn in the past, then she looked great. Lets hope she keeps it on the same level for the gala diner.;)

Regina 09-25-2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elsa M.
Thanks for being on top of things, lula. Just a little correction here: it's not his first official visit abroad, but his first State Visit. ;)
There will certainly be a gala dinner... I just hope the First Lady will get some fashion advisement before, since her sense of style always seems to come from her grandmother's closet... :devil: :whistling:

hahaha! I couldn't stop to laugh with your post, Elsa!

I must say Maria Cavaco Silva is, IMo, a very nice lady, with a huge love for all her family. I enjoy to read all her interviews, she is very smart, and was a wonderful teacher at Universidade Católica of Lisbon.
But in what concern to cloths... she's really a No-No-No!
Luckly, this time she was better... at least she was not Awful! Let's see tonight. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the pics everyone, and once more Congratulations for the new Baby coming!

Juanita 09-25-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa
She was fine, if compared with things she has worn in the past, then she looked great. Lets hope she keeps it on the same level for the gala diner.;)

:lol: Yeah! But i'm happy because the first impression of her is quite good!
Let's see if she stays like this not only in the gala dinner but in the whole visit!

sara1981 09-25-2006 03:21 PM

im would disagree about posts what you saying of Letizia cant come to gala dinner but im hope she can come to gala dinner before her bump grow but she was in few week of her pregnant

LaChicaMadrilena 09-25-2006 03:35 PM

It's quite understandable that she is not attending the dinner. Just imagine that she would feel bad or wanted to vomit or even faint and running to the bathroom in a long gown, jewellery, tiara on her head and lots of people around her...

lula 09-25-2006 03:47 PM

The Infantas Pilar and Margarita also came to the dinner of gala, in a slightly habitual image, with tiara included.;)

marilla 09-25-2006 03:47 PM

I see at TVE photos from dinner, Infanta Christina wears beautiful silver dress and I like Infianta Elena hairstyle and tiara, her black dress is nice too.

LaChicaMadrilena 09-25-2006 03:53 PM

Pictures from lfi:

https://www.lfi.co.uk/dynevent-action...eventid=324094

By the way, can anyone tell as what on earth is happening with getty? I was checking it, the last event of the SRF they have is the giving of the sport awards and since it nothing more...:wacko:

lula 09-25-2006 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marilla
I see at TVE photos from dinner, Infanta Christina wears beautiful silver dress and I like Infianta Elena hairstyle and tiara, her black dress is nice too.

I did not like the dress of the Infanta Cristina, already she had used it at some time, it is a dress of a white color with black lace. The Infanta Elena totally of blsck, very elegant. The Queen with a dress of brown gauze, which already has dressed in several occasions

The Queen was taking the tiara Cartier, the Infanta Elena her tiara Marichalar, the Infanta Cristina that of the flowers

ldt20 09-25-2006 04:02 PM

Can you guys post those photos of the gala dinner? Thanks a million!


Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
I did not like the dress of the Infanta Cristina, already she had used it at some time, it is a dress of a white color with black lace. The Infanta Elena totally of blsck, very elegant. The Queen with a dress of brown gauze, which already has dressed in several occasions

The Queen was taking the tiara Cartier, the Infanta Elena her tiara Marichalar, the Infanta Cristina that of the flowers


marilla 09-25-2006 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
I did not like the dress of the Infanta Cristina, already she had used it at some time, it is a dress of a white color with black lace. The Infanta Elena totally of blsck, very elegant. The Queen with a dress of brown gauze, which already has dressed in several occasions

The Queen was taking the tiara Cartier, the Infanta Elena her tiara Marichalar, the Infanta Cristina that of the flowers

For me it looks silver in tv.

I'm sorry Itd20, but I can't find any photos. I watch it on tv.

lula 09-25-2006 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldt20
Can you guys post those photos of the gala dinner? Thanks a million!

When they are!!!! The dinner has begun 15 minutes ago, so the photographers still have not had time.;)

Juanita 09-25-2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
When they are!!!! The dinner has begun 15 minutes ago, so the photographers still have not had time.;)

15 minutes?!?
Wasn't it to begin at 9 o'clock? :wacko: ;)

crisiñaki 09-25-2006 04:09 PM

LFI pics:

https://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/23976468.jpg https://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/23976467.jpg

https://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/23976471.jpg https://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/23976486.jpg

lula 09-25-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...JuAnItA...
15 minutes?!?
Wasn't it to begin at 9 o'clock? :wacko: ;)

The regards begin the 21.00, and are approximately 30 minutes with the regards and the photos. They enter the 21.30 to the dining room and beginthe speeches. So the dinner begins on the 21.45, when the door is closed to the press. ;)

micas 09-25-2006 04:12 PM

Oh, that is a peat that she don't go to the gala dinner... i miss see her in a evening gown and tiara...

lula 09-25-2006 04:29 PM

These are the dresses of the Queen and the Infanta Cristina

From seegerpress

1. 2005 Gala dinner
2. 1997

https://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9...5493ob4.th.jpg https://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7...9772kn3.th.jpg

clymène 09-25-2006 04:33 PM

Didn't we say that Letizia wasn't supposed to be there tonight? Why is it that she's pictures next to her jusband and the queen?

Juanita 09-25-2006 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
The regards begin the 21.00, and are approximately 30 minutes with the regards and the photos. They enter the 21.30 to the dining room and beginthe speeches. So the dinner begins on the 21.45, when the door is closed to the press. ;)

Thank you! ;)
I'm seeing SRF on tv! :wub:

Quote:

Originally Posted by lula
These are the dresses of the Queen and the Infanta Cristina

From seegerpress

Good choices! However, i was thinking in other dress for the Queen :blush:
Thank you lula! :flowers: ;)

Anna_R 09-25-2006 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clymène
Didn't we say that Letizia wasn't supposed to be there tonight? Why is it that she's pictures next to her jusband and the queen?

Lula is just trying to show which dresses the queen and the infanta are wearing. Those are old pictures from other gala dinner.

lula 09-25-2006 04:37 PM

There were references to the close birth in the speeches.;)

https://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...4-post117.html

From ANP and AFP Getty

https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/3786087.jpg https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/3786104.jpg https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/71989197.jpg

marilla 09-25-2006 04:42 PM

First pictures form dinner

Gallery - Gettyimages

https://editorial.gettyimages.com

adelaide 09-25-2006 04:54 PM

https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default...0925165008.jpg

( From Getty first posted by LULA )

Who is the most proud the Queen or the Prince ?

Too sympathetic, this pic, isen't it ?

monica 09-25-2006 04:55 PM

thanks for pincs, to see if soon we see Cristina the beauty at night without a doubt!!!!
The queen this very elegant tonight.

There are photos of the no Infants? they say that the dress of Elena is very beautiful already I want to see them, have also gone the sisters of the King?

mtbcm 09-25-2006 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adelaide
Who is the most proud the Queen or the Prince ?


A proud Mum looking proudly to her proud son who hasn't lost that proud smile the entire day ;).

Thank you so much lula for your updates:wub: .

Regards,
mtbcm :smile:

Teresa 09-25-2006 05:23 PM

I supose that once it was known Letizia would not attend the dinner, the press interest on the event diclined. And that is why there are only 3 photos at the photo agency sites so far...:sad:

lula 09-25-2006 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa
I supose that once it was known Letizia would not attend the dinner, the press interest on the event diclined. And that is why there are only 3 photos at the photo agency sites so far...:sad:

Normally the photos of the dinners of gala come late or on the following day, because they are done at hours at which almost nobody is working already, and do not place them in Internet.

Today with more reason that all the agencies and the whole press, are working with the topic of the pregnancy that will be the one that tomorrow occupies the front pages.

fanletizia 09-25-2006 05:55 PM

Images from terra

https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2...3a3022ghr0.jpg https://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2...39dd50grf9.jpg

https://img68.imageshack.us/img68/9499/3gj0.jpg https://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8691/7ow5.jpg https://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7261/6pi4.jpg

Juanita 09-25-2006 06:04 PM

Impressions of the First Lady's dress? :lol:

She looks very good and for her style is pretty good... but i don't like it (for me, of course!) ;)

lula 09-25-2006 06:08 PM

https://www.presidencia.pt/?id_categoria=1


Teresa 09-25-2006 06:09 PM

Her dress is too long! How could they let her wear the dress like that? :bang:

Yellow is not for everyone I think. Any idea who is designing her clothes?

micas 09-25-2006 06:12 PM

Xii, that is a lot of gold...thanks for the pics!

RachelD 09-25-2006 06:12 PM

Is this the dress that Christina wore? This is an old picture...

Pictures from Corbis:

https://pro.corbis.com/images/0000335...-86853a22f715}

I really want to see what they wore...!

Regina 09-25-2006 06:18 PM

The black dress of Sonsoles Zapatero is super elegant, imo!

I really don't like the dress of the Portuguese First lady... it is so ugly, imo. And it is too long for her, you can't even see her shoes. Does anyone knows who is the Designer?... Anyway, she seems relaxed and nice (like she always is). :)

The Queen is very elegant and regal (as usual).

mtbcm 09-25-2006 06:22 PM

So I guess this is the famous portuguese PDA ;).

Thank you for sharing lula and fanletizia. What order did the Portuguese President received from King Juan Carlos?! Isabel the Catholic?! :ermm:

Our First-Lady is not so bad, Juanita, the dress is acceptable but she just doesn't have the figure for that. And besides Queen Sofia with that amaizing Tiara and dress the difference between Gowns is screaming out loud.

But as Regina said Mrs. Maria Cavaco Silva have other attributes that make her a charming person and the Queen is the perfect host; Mrs. Cavaco Silva could even wear shorts that the Queen would react and welcome her the same way.

But I wonder who designed the dress?! A friend?! Doesn't look an Augustus does it?! Let's see if our media give news about it.

Regards,
mtbcm :smile:

Regina 09-25-2006 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...JuAnItA...
I didn't notice that!
It looks like it isn't her size! First day, first mistake.... :ermm: :ohmy:
And the color, i don't like it however if she likes... :smile:

haha! First day, first mistake... :D

The colour is awful, she is too tanned to use this kind of yellow...
Like some members said before me, the dress is too long, but it's also too large...
She has large hips, and this dress makes her even more large... It's a pitty.

Juanita 09-25-2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teresa
Her dress is too long! How could they let her wear the dress like that? :bang:

I didn't notice that!
It looks like it isn't her size! First day, first mistake.... :ermm: :ohmy:
And the color, i don't like it however if she likes... :smile:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbcm
Our First-Lady is not so bad, Juanita, the dress is acceptable but she just doesn't have the figure for that.

Yeah! The dress isn't bad for her style. Because in other years, she was worst! But i don't like the dress for me. :smile:

Regina 09-25-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbcm
But I wonder who designed the dress?! A friend?! Doesn't look an Augustus does it?! Let's see if our media give news about it

Yeah, maybe a friend... But with friends like these... who needs enemies?! :lol:

Quote:

Mrs. Maria Cavaco Silva have other attributes that make her a charming person
I really agree.

RachelD 09-25-2006 06:36 PM

Ha! Ha! You guys are funny!!

Yes, the dress should have had a slimmer skirt and the color was not very becoming.

mtbcm 09-25-2006 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ...JuAnItA...
But i don't like the dress for me. :smile:

Hopefully you will never have to pass through the shame of wearing such a big faux-pas ;)!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Regina
Yeah, maybe a friend... But with friends like these... who needs enemies?! :lol:

ahahahahahah :lol:

It is really a pity; if she had dressed a more vaporous dress that disguised the non-existing waist in other tone different necklace... oh welll I just realised that not even Cinderella could make anything from this dress; a miracle wouldn't be enough :lol: ... I was hoping for a dress in shades of blue! Oh well maybe next time!

But the green-lime suit on the afternoon was very elegant ;) wasn't it?

Regards,
mtbcm :smile:

Juanita 09-25-2006 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbcm
Hopefully you will never have to pass through the shame of wearing such a big faux-pas ;)!!!

:lol: Yeah! I won't! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtbcm
It is really a pity; if she had dressed a more vaporous dress that disguised the non-existing waist in other tone different necklace... oh welll I just realised that not even Cinderella could make anything from this dress; a miracle wouldn't be enough :lol: ... I was hoping for a dress in shades of blue! Oh well maybe next time!

But the green-lime suit on the afternoon was very elegant ;) wasn't it?

:lol: The green-lime suit and the white suit were quite good, very elegant both of them! But in comparison with other time, she is wonderful!

adelaide 09-25-2006 07:29 PM

Poor First Lady ( with a so handsome husband!!!) She is not Jackie Kennedy.... May she could some lesson in watching at her wardrobe allways very fashion and classy;)

soCal girl 09-25-2006 08:06 PM

One more lovely picture of Letizia and the family:

https://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...589/th_L11.jpg
(Credit: AP/Bernat Armangue)
Portuguese President Anibal Cavaco Silva salutes to Princess Letizia Ortiz and her husband Prince Felipe of Spain in front of the rest of the Royal family at the Zarzuela Palace in Madrid, Monday, Sept. 25, 2006. Spain's Princess Letizia is pregnant with her second child and expects to give birth in early May.

lula 09-26-2006 04:07 AM

https://www.presidencia.pt/index.php


lula 09-26-2006 04:28 AM

From terra

https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default...0926042244.jpg https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default...0926042244.jpg https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default...0926042310.jpg
https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/72087.jpg https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/72087d.jpg https://s2.supload.com/thumbs/default/72087d0.jpg

Marengo 09-26-2006 04:42 AM

Does anybody have pictures of Infantas Pilar and Margarita? I believe they attended the dinner as well.
Did Don Carlos and Princess Anne attend btw?

fanletizia 09-26-2006 04:54 AM

Images from seeger

https://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6012/4vs3.jpg

https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4...tleddw5.th.jpg https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5829/1rh5.th.jpg https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/1664/2hj8.th.jpg https://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6673/3wz7.th.jpg

monica 09-26-2006 05:06 AM

thanks for the photos,I have liked much Cristina this precious one of face,the dress is not new but it feels it very well and it continues it being perfect after the years.
Thanks for the picture of Infanta Margarita this very handsome, I am glad to see them in the supper the two sisters of the King. ;) ;)

Marengo 09-26-2006 05:07 AM

Thanks fanletizia! I don't recall any of the kings sisters wearing the Melliero shell tiara before, it looks nice in combination with Margarita's pearls though. The Princess looks well to!
Does anybody know what tiara Infanta Pilar is wearing? Or the provenance of the necklace of Elena (who looks great IMO).

mtbcm 09-26-2006 05:11 AM

From Hola.es:


(a precious moment between the King and his daughter, Infanta Doña Elena, who was gorgeous and regal as ever :wub:)


I found it so nice and tender from King's side to invite his sisters to be present and meet a piece of Portuguese nation that they loved so much for so long. I wish our President would have taken some persons that they would love to see again; but I understand this was not a walk in a park:ermm: ...

Thank you for great job done fan and lula, did you manage to sleep anything tonight:lol:?! I went to bed you were here I return and you are already here... Thank you very much, your work is highly appreciated.

I love the ceiling pictures, WOW :flowers:

Regards,
mtbcm :smile:

Juanita 09-26-2006 06:18 AM

Thank you very much for the precious photos!!:flowers:
All the ladies look very good!

https://s2.supload.com/image.php?get=Gala_1.jpg
https://s2.supload.com/image.php?get=...0926040444.jpg
Oh my!! The Palace is so beautiful!!
And look at the perfection of the table!! :wub: :wub: :wub:

What was the tiara that Infanta Pilar was wearing?

Thanks in advance :flowers:

lula 09-26-2006 06:41 AM

Gallery from deadline

https://www.deadline-press.com/fotowe...AlfaNumericAsc

monica 09-26-2006 07:37 AM

Thanksss lula !!!
https://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9...6011wg6.th.jpg she this fantastic one !!!!!!!!!


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