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06-03-2018, 02:15 PM
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Lol, some of you proclaim to know the personal relationships of famous people who you don't know. Ridiculous.
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06-03-2018, 02:29 PM
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06-03-2018, 02:43 PM
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I do not get why there's so much upset about the guest list. To me it seems like some wanted Meghan to scrap her co-workers and friends from her own wedding, just so the royal line up would've been full enough.
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Meghan would not have had to scrap anyone; the chapel seats 800.
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06-03-2018, 02:58 PM
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Meghan would not have had to scrap anyone; the chapel seats 800.
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That’s true. Meghan still could’ve had her celebrity wedding and there was lots of room for cousins.
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06-03-2018, 03:27 PM
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Of course it is important for a royal family to be valued by their own people but the importance of a royal family in international relations shouldn't be underestimated, so the wedding receiving a lot of attention worldwide is certainly advantageous.
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06-03-2018, 03:33 PM
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so the wedding receiving a lot of attention worldwide is certainly advantageous.
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Yes.. why not invite THE most prominent African American to the wedding. and increase that attention, in newly interested America ?
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06-03-2018, 03:47 PM
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I don't think her presence was known in advance so no tv station decided to come to Windsor because of Oprah Winfrey and I doubt the wedding was discussed more often because of her.
The nice weather (which they couldn't control) helped far more to share a positive vibe around this royal wedding.
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06-03-2018, 03:47 PM
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I’m sure Meghan and Harry have tons of friends and acquaintances most people wouldn’t know if they ran over them in a Royal Landau. Think of all the prominent people you know of: can you honestly say you know who all their friends are?
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06-03-2018, 03:48 PM
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I'm not sure I would consider Oprah the most prominent AA in the U.S. ...she doesn't even do her Oprah show anymore. She's more behind the scenes now days or so it seems to me. I rarely hear about her.
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06-03-2018, 03:50 PM
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Yes.. why not invite THE most prominent African American to the wedding. and increase that attention, in newly interested America ?
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Speaking as an American, our interest in this wedding had zero to do with Oprah and everything to do with Meghan being 1. American and 2. African-American.
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06-03-2018, 03:59 PM
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I don't think her presence was known in advance so no tv station decided to come to Windsor because of Oprah Winfrey and I doubt the wedding was discussed more often because of her.
The nice weather (which they couldn't control) helped far more to share a positive vibe around this royal wedding.
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People didn't even know Oprah was attending. Just watch any of the coverage and her arrival was a shock to them all. "Was that Oprah?!" So implication that her presence was the reason American media was there is a reach.
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I’m sure Meghan and Harry have tons of friends and acquaintances most people wouldn’t know if they ran over them in a Royal Landau. Think of all the prominent people you know of: can you honestly say you know who all their friends are?
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This wedding already proved that. Most people couldn't name a good portion of those in the Quire because they weren't famous. The fact most the people in there were Meghan's close girlfriend and the media just discovered them proved she doing something right.
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06-03-2018, 04:23 PM
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I’m not going to beat the dead Oprah horse anymore because I think we’ve all made up our minds on that. I do want to point out the far more disturbing concept of blaming the woman here.
Oprah or no Oprah, the Windsor cousins or whoever else that people thinks should be invited to the wedding would not have been on Meghan’s list. Most weddings I’ve seen has a list of mutual friends, his guests, her guests, and parents often get some slots too. In this case, we know Charles did as well given that he had friends there as well. Her Majesty’s cousin were invited as well, so I’m assuming that came from her. However, it is somehow MEGHAN’s priorities and shows what kind of wedding SHE wanted that’s being criticized or talked about in a negative way here. It’s somehow upsetting that she put someone on her side of Quire after already giving up some seats to Harry to accommodate his large family. I could understand if people question why Oprah was seated in the Quire, but not her Suits castmate, but it’s quite unfair to hold her responsible or talk about her in a negative way because Harry’s second and third cousins whom he sees maybe two or three times a year at major events aren’t invited.
The reality is, Harry’s side of family is up to him and, to an extent, his close family to decide. None of them thought it was importantly enough to invited his second or third cousins, why is this reflective of Meghan? Did I miss the reporting that she took the Windsor second or third cousins off the list when Harry and Charles or the Queen put them on? And make no mistake that the list is ultimately approved by HMQ and Charles given that HMQ did consult the government on the issue related to foreign dignitaries.
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06-03-2018, 04:40 PM
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From day one we were told this was Meghan and Harry’s ‘private’ wedding. They did things their way to paraphrase the old song.
The statement from Harry and Meghan said because it’s a smaller venue (although they still had room for 200 more people) and because Harry is 6th in line to the throne there was no need for an official guest list.
If Harry’s cousins weren’t there, that’s because the couple didn’t want them there. Nothing to do with the Queen. The Queen invites everyone to Trooping the Colour and the Christmas lunch at BP.
I doubt she was against Harry inviting his cousins. They were all invited to the wedding in 2011
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06-03-2018, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jacqui24
I’m not going to beat the dead Oprah horse anymore because I think we’ve all made up our minds on that. I do want to point out the far more disturbing concept of blaming the woman here.
Oprah or no Oprah, the Windsor cousins or whoever else that people thinks should be invited to the wedding would not have been on Meghan’s list. Most weddings I’ve seen has a list of mutual friends, his guests, her guests, and parents often get some slots too. In this case, we know Charles did as well given that he had friends there as well. Her Majesty’s cousin were invited as well, so I’m assuming that came from her. However, it is somehow MEGHAN’s priorities and shows what kind of wedding SHE wanted that’s being criticized or talked about in a negative way here. The reality is, Harry’s side of family is up to him and, to an extent, his close family to decide. None of them thought it was importantly enough to invited his second or third cousins, why is this reflective of Meghan? Did I miss the reporting that she took the Windsor second or third cousins off the list when Harry and Charles or the Queen put them on? And make no mistake that the list is ultimately approved by HMQ and Charles given that HMQ did consult the government on the issue related to foreign dignitaries.
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Agreed. There are too many unknowns behind the scenes to draw any conclusions about the closeness of certain family members, the European royals that “should” have been invited despite the fact that the groom is now sixth in line to the throne and probably doesn’t have many close working relationships with any of these folks. There were 600 people at the wedding. Other than Meghan’s cast mates, I count fewer than 20 guests whom one might reasonably call “celebrities.” We don’t know whether Harry is friends with any of these folks, whether the couple met them through friends of friends, or whatever. There is no basis for the conclusion that famous people were invited because the bride is a shameless social climber, a careerist or whatever. She is no longer an actor, so there’s no reason to cultivate the Clooneys, Idris Elba and fiancée, nor any other movie star for that matter.
I do not understand the insistence that Meghan wanted a “Hollywood” wedding when she had the most career success in Toronto! I mean, come on!
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06-03-2018, 04:56 PM
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No one said The Queen wouldn’t let them invite the distant relatives. But the Queen obviously had no objections to them not being invited. Bottom line is Harry isn’t close to them. If Harry wanted to invite them, he would’ve regardless of Oprah’s invitation. And my issue continues to be why remarks were thrown in Meghan’s way for them not being invited just because she invited who she wanted to on her side.
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06-03-2018, 06:35 PM
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In any wedding this is how it is. There were 800 guests in the chapel. So technically 400 guests for her, and 400 guests for him. I doubt that Meghan had 400 guest present there overall, so this means that Harry had more than 400 opportunities to invite anybody of his choice, be it, foreign royals or extended family. He didn't. Why should it be her responsibilities and why should her guests be it those , in the navel or in the quire, celebrities or otherwise be scrutinized like that.
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06-03-2018, 06:48 PM
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. There were 800 guests in the chapel. So technically 400 guests for her, and 400 guests for him.
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600 guests-the church seats 800, so 200 seats were left unfilled.
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