Royalty of Latin America

[claypoint2]

Originally Posted by princess olga

And one more thing, not to nitpick, but Marie Chantal of Greece identifies herself as "an American", ie someone from the United States. You are right her mother is from Central America, but her father isn't.

Princess Olga, since you are obviously a stickler, I will note that Ecuador (the country of birth of Marie-Chantal's mother) is not in Central America but in South America.

Originally Posted by Quin

For what it is worth, I have read from more than one source that she came from a modest back ground and re-wrote her past to keep up with her present status as a wife or former wife of a very wealthy man.

Perhaps that is where the Incan princess story came from?

A modest background?? I'm curious about your sources, because you are seriously misinformed. Marie-Chantal's father, Robert Warren Miller, is an Ivy League-educated billionaire who claims several Mayflower ancestors (which is as "old" and prestigious as you can get in the United States). He and his wife are based in Hong Kong but also have houses in London, Paris, New York, and Gstaad. Marie-Chantal was educated at Le Rosey in Switzerland, one of the most prestigious boarding schools in the world. If that's what's you call modest, well....

[Marc23]

It was not a comment about Marie-Chantal,but about her mother...and no matter how rich she is,her background is modest compared to any royal or noble...it's about something money can't buy-noble ancestry!

On the other hand you got the point-Marie-Chantal is very educated,behaves very well and has style!

[claypoint2]

You're right, Marc23. I read Quin's comment too quickly and thought that it was in reference to M-C, not her mother. Apologies....

[Grandduchess24]

There are no Latin royals except the house of orleans Braganza in brazil and house of bourbon in Spain then again There was the royal family of Mexico with maximillian I and empress Charlotte but that went badly.

[Kasumi]

Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

There are no Latin royals except the house of orleans Braganza in brazil and house of bourbon in Spain then again There was the royal family of Mexico with maximillian I and empress Charlotte but that went badly.

Do you mean the descendants of the Aztec and Inca emperors, such as Montezuma, are not of royal blood?
Try to read some serious researches on the native royal families of South America, for example Naso people (a.k.a. Teribe) in Panama.

[Grandduchess24]

Maxima and Maria Theresa seem to be getting the royal lifestyle well and have fit perfectly into their roles. They are both of Latin decent but it will continue through their children.

Just how many Latin American royals are there because I consider them to have a palace.

[norenxaq]

royalty is defined by position in a particular society. NOT by any building or type of building it might use

[Grandduchess24]

At least these Latin princesses have something in common now with the Spanish royal family and have princesses that speak the native tongue of the Spanish royal family.

[cmbruno]

Queen Silvia of Sweden is considered half Brazilian because her mother was a Brazilian of aristocratic Portuguese descent.

The Countess of Paris (1911–2003), née Princess Isabel de Orleans e Bragança, was the daughter of the Brazilian Pedro de Alcântara de Orleans e Bragança, Prince of Grão Para. Prince Pedro was the heir, after his mother Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil, to the throne of his grandfather, Emperor Pedro II of Brazil, until the empire's abolition. He also renounced his rights to the throne of Brazil on 30 October 1908 when he married Countess Elisabeth Dobržensky de Dobrženicz who, although a noblewoman of the kingdom of Bohemia, did not belong to a royal dynasty.

What is interesting here is that the beautiful Bragança tiara that now belongs to Sweden and is the most beautiful tiara Queen Silvia wears, was given by Emperor Pedro I of Brazil (also King Pedro IV of Portugal) - Great Grandfather of the Countess of Paris's father) to his second wife, Empress Amélie of Brazil. Empress Amélie died without children and left the tiara to her sister, Queen Josephine of Sweden.
So now, the Brazilian tiara belongs to a half Brazilian Queen.

[Sangre_Real016]

Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

There are no Latin royals except the house of orleans Braganza in brazil and house of bourbon in Spain then again There was the royal family of Mexico with maximillian I and empress Charlotte but that went badly.

Mexico's first emperor was Emperor Agustin I of the House of Iturbide.. the Iturbides are Spanish nobles which cam from the Navarre region of Spain.. his wife was Empress Ana Maria, which is a descendant of the House of Tagle from her maternal side.. the tagles were one of the oldest families in Spain and it was said that they were founded by a knight named Don sancho who fought for King Pelayo during the Age of the Reconquista and later married the king's daughter.. the House of iturbide later intermarried with the Counts von Gotzen and their current head is Count Maximiliano Gustav Albrecht Richard Agustin von Goetzen Iturbide.. the Tagle heiress, Doña Maria del Mar Alvarez de Abreu y Rodriguez de Albuerne, 8th Marquesa of Altamira, granddaughter of Don Manuel Rodriguez de Albuerne y Pérez de Tagle, 5th Marquis of Altamira married Carlos María O'Donnell y Joris, a member of the O'Donnell Dynasty of Ireland, and their son was Carlos O'Donnell, 2nd Duke of Tetuan.. current head is Hugo O'Donnell, 7th Duke of Tetuan..

[NotHRH]

Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

Maxima and Maria Theresa seem to be getting the royal lifestyle well and have fit perfectly into their roles. They are both of Latin decent but it will continue through their children.

Just how many Latin American royals are there because I consider them to have a palace.

Also, Princess Angela of Liechtenstein was born Angela Gisela Brown in Panama in Central America. As mentioned previously Marie-Chantal of Greece ' s mother is from Ecuador and Queen Silvia' s mother was from Brazil.

[NotHRH]

Tatiana Blatnik, HRH Princess Nikolaus of Greece and Denmark, originally hails from Ecuador. While Tatiana Santo Domingo , Princess Caroline of Monaco/Hanover's daughter-in-law, was born in NYC but her father's family is one of the wealthiest in Columbia. :p

[Marc23]

Originally Posted by NotHRH

Tatiana Blatnik, HRH Princess Nikolaus of Greece and Denmark, originally hails from Ecuador.

We know she was born in Venezuela.Maybe her family was at some point living there,but she doesn't have any Ecuadorian ancestry.

Her father was born in Yugoslavia and is of Slovenian origin. Blatnik is a typical Slovenian surname...

Her mother Marie Blanche Bierlein is German from Munich,daughter of Peter Michael Bierlein and Countess Ellinka von Einsiedel...

[NotHRH]

Originally Posted by princess olga

And one more thing, not to nitpick, but Marie Chantal of Greece identifies herself as "an American", ie someone from the United States. You are right her mother is from Central America, but her father isn't.

Just for the record, a few years back, Crown Princess Pavlos, née Marie-Chantal Clare Miller, renounced her American citizenship. She was an American citizen only because her father is an American from NYC. She was born in London, and although her parents live in Hong Kong, she attended several European boarding schools, including LaRosay, throughout her school years. She definitely does NOT consider herself an American, as a matter of fact, I feel she is almost insulted by people thinking of her as an American.

Grand Duchess Maria Teresa, née Maria Teresa Metre y Batista, is from a once prominent and wealthy Havana, Cuba family. They owned a thriving sugar plantation there. She was born in 1956 and they left there in 1959 during the Cuban revolution. They lived in NYC for some time, but she does not really like to admit that fact; from info I have read about her, she is almost ashamed to admit to ever living in the US. Both her father and brother passed away (at different times) while living in Miami, Florida, USA. They were not poor, but not as wealthy as they once were. MT would not even admit she still had family in the US until her father passed away.

[Marc23]

It seems that being an American is not very popular in posh circles.

[NotHRH]

Originally Posted by Marc23

It seems that being an American is not very popular in posh circles.

Well, from what I heard from others and from what I've read, Americans are not very well liked by people in the rest of the world. I personally have never been outside of the US, but I think many should realize it is probably more the foreign policies of the US that they are not happy with. Just because our federal government represents us to the rest of world, does not mean every American is in total agreement with it/them. I will say for the most part though, we are very opinionated (individally) and don't mind speaking our peace. But if I ever offend anybody with my stated (non-insulting) opinion, so be it. Rant over. :beer: