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Old 09-06-2022, 07:55 AM
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House of Garsenda

The inimitable Matt Baker of UsefulCharts has created a series of three videos on the major matrilineal dynasties of Europe. (Links below)

In particular he has focused on the matrilineal descent from Garsenda of Forcalquier, a 12th century Countess of Provence, which Matt terms the House of Gardsenda. This line includes a remarkable number of monarchs and queens consort.

I did rather get nerdsniped by the concept such that I wondered how many members of the "House of Garsenda" remain. Turns out, it's a lot, 81 by my mark. Surprising, since the line came to a bottleneck of 1 in the 18th century: all existing members of Garsenda's matrilineal line descend from Princess Victoria of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, via either Princess Feodora of Leiningen or her younger half-sister Queen Victoria.

I think then that this is an exhaustive list of the female line descent from Princess Victoria, barring any recent deaths or births. I've mostly relied on wargs and heinbruins.

EDIT: Per information below kindly provided by MagdalenaS, I've corrected this list.

1 Princess Feodora of Leiningen 1807
11 Princess Elise of Hohenlohe-Langenburg 1830
12 Princess Adelheid of Hohenlohe-Langenburg 1835
121 Princess Augusta Viktoria of Schleswig-Hol 1858
1211 Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick 1892
12111 Frederica, Queen consort of Greece 1917
121111 Sofia, Queen consort of Spain 1938 alive
1211111 Elena, infanta of Spain 1963 alive
12111111 Victoria Frederica de Marichalar 2000 alive
1211112 Cristina, infanta of Spain 1965 alive
12111121 Irene Urdangarin 2005 alive
121112 Irene, Pss of Greece 1942 alive
122 Princess Karoline Mathilde of Schleswig-Ho 1860
1221 Princess Victoria Adelaide of Schleswig-Ho 1885
12211 Princess Sibylla of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha 1908
122111 Princess Margaretha, Mrs. Ambler 1934 alive
1221111 Baroness Sybilla von Dincklage 1965 alive
12211111 Madeleine Charlotte Margaretha von Dinckla 1999 alive
122112 Princess Birgitta 1937 alive
1221121 Princess Désirée 1963 alive
12211211 Countess Carolina of Ortenburg 1997 alive
122113 Princess Désirée, Baroness Silfverschiöld 1938 alive
1221131 Baroness Christina-Louise Silfverschiöld 1966 alive
12211311 Baroness Estelle De Geer af Finspеng 2000 alive
1221132 Baroness Hélène Silfverschiöld 1968 alive
122114 Princess Christina, Mrs. Magnuson 1943 alive
12212 Princess Caroline Mathilde of Saxe-Coburg 1912
1222 Princess Alexandra Victoria of Schleswig- 1887
1223 Pss Helena Adelaide of Schleswig-Hol 1888
12231 Pss Feodora of Denmark 1910
122311 Pss Marie of Schaumburg-Lippe 1945 alive
12232 Pss Caroline-Mathilde 1912
122321 Pss Elisabeth Caroline-Mathilde Ale 1935
12233 Pss Alexandrine-Louise 1914
122331 Amélie Alexandrine Helene Caroline Mathil 1938 alive
122332 Thyra Antonie Marie-Therese Feodora Agnes 1939 alive
1223221 Marie Louise Moes 1966 alive
12232211 Caroline Gronholdt 1994 alive
12232212 Christine Gronholdt 1998 alive
1223222 Anne Moes 1976 alive
12232221 Emily Hime 2009 alive
1224 Pss Adelaide of Schleswig-Holstein-So 1889
12241 Countess Friederike Luise of Solms-Baruth 1916
12242 Countess Feodore of Solms-Baruth 1920
122421 Pss Caroline Mathilde Adelheid Gober 1962 alive
1224211 Clara Preiser 1987 alive
1224212 Anna Preiser 1988 alive
1224213 Katharina Preiser 1991 alive
12243 Countess Rosa Cecilie Karoline-Mathilde I 1925
122431 Caroline Isabelle Lewis 1956 alive
1224311 Victoria Margaret Gabler 1978 alive
12243111 Alice Williams 2016 alive
1224312 Clara Magdalena Lewis-Brand 1992 alive
12244 Countess Caroline Mathilde of Solms-Baruth 1929
1225 Pss Karoline Mathilde of Schleswig-H 1894
12251 Countess Viktoria-Luise Frederica Carolin 1921
122511 Victoria Astrid Whitten 1948 alive
1225111 Victoria Beveridge 1980 alive
12251111 Madison Morales 2018 alive
123 Pss Louise Sophie of Schleswig-Holst 1866
1231 Pss Victoria Margaret of Prussia 1890
12311 Pss Marie Luise Reuss of Köstritz 1915
123111 Viktoria Sibylle Theisen 1942 alive
1231111 Anna Katharina Schafer 1974 alive
1231112 Marie Caroline Schafer 1979 alive
124 Pss Feodora Adelheid of Schleswig-Hol 1874
13 Pss Feodora of Hohenlohe-Langenburg 1839
2 Queen Victoria 1819
21 Victoria Pss Royal Gt Britain 1840
211 Charlotte v Preussen 1860
2111 Feodora of Saxe-Meiningen 1879
212 Viktoria v Preussen 1866
213 Sophie v Preussen 1870
2131 Elena of Greece 1896
2132 Yriny of Greece 1904
2133 Ekaterini of Greece 1913
214 Margarete v Preussen 1872
22 Alice Pss Gt Britain 1843
221 Viktoria v Hessen u bei Rhein 1863
2211 Alice v Battenberg 1885
22111 Margarita of Greece 1905
221111 Beatrix of Hohenlohe-Langenburg 1936
22112 Theodora of Greece 1906
221121 Margarita v Baden 1932
2211211 Katarina Yugoslavia 1959 alive
22112111 Victoria de Silva 1991 alive
22113 Cecilie of Greece 1911
221131 Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine 1936
22114 Sophie of Greece 1914
221141 Christina v Hessen 1933
2211411 Pss Tatiana of Yugoslavia 1957 alive
22114111 Sonja Thune-Larsen 1992 alive
22114112 Olga Thune-Larsen 1995 alive
2211412 Helen van Eyck 1963 alive
22114121 Alexandra Harman 1986 alive
221141211 Iris Goldsmith 2020 alive
221142 Dorothea v Hessen 1934
2211421 Marina v Windisch-Graetz 1960 alive
22114211 Reka Jakabffy 1988 alive
22114212 Sophia Jakabffy 1989 alive
2211422 Clarissa v Windisch-Graetz 1966 alive
22114221 Rubi de Waele 1994 alive
221142211 Alice Coco van Nes 2020 alive
221143 Clarissa v Hessen 1944 alive
2211431 Johanna Prinzessin von Hessen-Kassel 1980 alive
221144 Friederike v Hannover 1954 alive
2211441 Julia Cyr 1982 alive
2212 Lady Louise Mountbatten 1889
222 Elisabeth v Hessen u bei Rhein 1864
223 Irene v Hessen u bei Rhein 1866
224 Alix v Hessen u bei Rhein 1872
23 Helena Pss Gt Britain 1846
231 Helena Victoria of Schleswig-Holstein 1870
232 Marie Luise v Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderbur 1872
24 Louise Pss Gt Britain 1848
25 Beatrice Pss Gt Britain 1857
251 Viktoria Eugenia v Battenberg 1887
2511 Beatriz de Espana 1909
25111 Sandra Torlonia 1936
251112 Desideria Lequio 1962 alive
25112 Olimpia Torlonia 1943 alive
251121 Beatrice Weiller 1967 alive
2511211 Helena Correa do Lago 1997 alive
2511212 Victoria Correa do Lago 2000 alive
251122 Sibilla Weiller 1968 alive
2511221 Charlotte de Luxembourg 2000 alive
251123 Cosima Weiller 1984 alive
251124 Domitilla Weiller 1985 alive
2512 Maria Cristina de Espana 1911
25121 Vittoria Marone 1941 alive
251211 Vittoria Alvarez de Toledo 1961 alive
2512111 Ana Codorniu 1987 alive
2512112 Carla Codorniu 1990 alive
25122 Giovanna Marone 1943 alive
25123 Maria Teresa Maron 1945 alive
251231 Cristina Ruiz de Arana Dss de Sanlucar de 1968 alive
251232 Isabel Ruiz de Arana Msa de Villamanrique 1970 alive
2512321 Crista Izuzquiza 2002 alive
2512322 Ines Izuzquia y Ruiz de Arana 2006 alive
251233 Ines Ruiz de Arana Msa de Brenes 1974 alive
2512331 Carla Magraner y Ruiz de Arana 2013 alive
25124 Anna Marone 1948 alive
251241 Astrid Stavro Santarosa 1972 alive
251242 Yara Stavro Santarosa 1974 alive


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Old 09-06-2022, 11:08 AM
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1211 Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick 1892 has female line descendants.

12111 Frederica, Queen consort of Greece 1917
121111 Sofia, Queen consort of Spain 1938 alive
1211111 Elena, infanta of Spain 1963 alive
12111111 Victoria Frederica de Marichalar 2000 alive
1211112 Cristina, infanta of Spain 1965 alive
12111121 Irene Urdangarin 2005 alive
121112 Irene, Pss of Greece 1942 alive
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Old 09-06-2022, 11:37 PM
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1211 Victoria Louise, Duchess of Brunswick 1892 has female line descendants.

12111 Frederica, Queen consort of Greece 1917
121111 Sofia, Queen consort of Spain 1938 alive
1211111 Elena, infanta of Spain 1963 alive
12111111 Victoria Frederica de Marichalar 2000 alive
1211112 Cristina, infanta of Spain 1965 alive
12111121 Irene Urdangarin 2005 alive
121112 Irene, Pss of Greece 1942 alive
Thanks for that correction! Good Lord, how did I drop that part out: it's even mentioned in the video that Sofia is the most senior extant member of the House.
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House of Garsenda was one of my favorite Matt videos. About time the female lines got some attention in royalty to show how far in the past current royals go.
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Yes, these videos by Matt are fantastic. And thanks for laying that all out Daz Voz!
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