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Old 01-03-2016, 12:49 AM
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So very well said and right now, money always talks among family and very loudly......
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:36 PM
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The order still exists as a religious order in the Catholic Church so the later two websites you list are indeed correct. The first one not sure if its a fraud or not or rather some tribute page to the order.
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Old 04-06-2017, 08:31 PM
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Descendants of Prince Philipp of Liechtenstein

I have long been interested in the house of Liechtenstein, and recently I was refreshing myself about Prince Philipp. I'm reading that he has three sons named Alexander (b.1972), Wenzeslaus (b.1974), and Rudolf (b.1975). However I clearly remember reading that he had a daughter, although I can find no mention of her now. Does anyone know of her? Thank you all.
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Old 04-07-2017, 02:11 AM
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He has three sons
Alexander married to Astrid Kohl. They have a daughter Theodora
Wenzeslaus is single
Rudolf married Tilsim Tanberk. They have twins, a daughter Laetitia and a son Karl Ludwig
In 2015 Rudolf and Tilsim lost a daughter Alienor, 13 months old
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Old 02-07-2019, 08:48 AM
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Check this out. It makes sense to me.

"All Europeans are descended from exactly the same people, and not that long ago. Everyone alive in the tenth century who left descendants is the ancestor of every living European today, including Charlemagne, and his children Drogo, Pippin, and, of course, not forgetting Hugh."

I find this amusing as no one really comes forth and claims they're from a long line of seafarers or farmers or in ages past, serfs. Everyone wants to be "connected to royalty". I'm wondering why.

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Old 02-07-2019, 09:04 AM
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It's just that there were way fewer people.on the planet hundreds and thousands of years ago. So yes, there does exist numerous connections to royalty, but not always direct line connections. Meghan's is a direct line connection.

And once again, there are few traceable opportunites to prove these ancestral connections.
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Old 05-02-2021, 05:56 PM
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The House of Windsor is also of German origin (the British branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) as is also the royal House of Belgium. Philip belonged to the Greek branch of his house, which in turn descended from the Danish branch. It would be quite a stretch to call either one "German".
One may not call them German, as they reign in other lands outside Germany, but when a German dynasty reigns in Denmark or Greece and is for centuries intermarried almost exclusively with other German dynasties, what would you say about the ancestry of this person? Well, German one. And it's not a shame to acknowledge that. Out of Prince Philip's 128 nearest ancestors, only 3 didn't belong to a German dynasty.

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To make a comparison, the Bourbons are of French origin, but the Spanish Bourbons or the Italian Bourbons are not normally considered French.
I agree. But one thing is to be "considered" and the other is what it really is. They can consider themselves everything they want, but that doesn't change the fact that they are of French origin who married only to other French or German dynasties. If I live for years in Nigeria I can consider myself Nigerian, but the fact is that I am not, no matter how much I like it.

One can easily say that King Felipe is Spanish as he is the King of Spain whose ancestors also reigned in Spain, but out of his 128 nearest ancestors there is not a trace of Spanish blood which would make him Spanish in real sense of word, just blood of the French dynasty who reigned in Spain and either married fellow Bourbons or Germans and Austrians...

What I wanted to say is that he can be Spanish as he is a Spanish citizen who reigns there, but saying that he is of Spanish ancestry just because his ancestors reigned there without a drop of Spanish blood is not reality.
Given that this discussion touches on multiple European royal families I hope this is the appropriate thread to respond.

If I understand you correctly, in your eyes, no length of time living in Spain is sufficient to designate a family as Spanish "in reality" (otherwise, King Felipe VI would certainly be of Spanish blood, given that he descends in direct lineage from medieval sovereigns of Spain). In that event, how should one determine whether a royal is of "Spanish blood"?
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Old 12-29-2021, 05:28 AM
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I would like to find information of any knowledge, anyone on this forum has of thier being descendants of the British Royal Family residing in Australia.
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Old 12-29-2021, 05:39 AM
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Here’s one. There are probably more, descendants of illegimate scions of royalty.
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Old 12-29-2021, 06:36 AM
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Given that this discussion touches on multiple European royal families I hope this is the appropriate thread to respond.

If I understand you correctly, in your eyes, no length of time living in Spain is sufficient to designate a family as Spanish "in reality" (otherwise, King Felipe VI would certainly be of Spanish blood, given that he descends in direct lineage from medieval sovereigns of Spain). In that event, how should one determine whether a royal is of "Spanish blood"?
Indeed:

Felipe de Borbón y Grecia is born from a Spanish father (Juan Carlos)

Juan Carlos de Borbón y Borbón-Dos Sicilias is born from a Spanish father (Juan)

Juan de Borbón y Battenberg is born from a Spanish father (Alfonso XIII)

Alfonso XIII de Borbón y Habsburgo-Lorena is born from a Spanish father (Alfonso XII)

Alfonso XII de Borbón y Borbón is born from a Spanish father (Francisco de Asís)

Francisco de Asís de Borbón y Borbón-Dos Sicilias is born from a Spanish father (Francisco de Paula)

Francisco de Paula de Borbón y Borbón-Parma is born from a Spanish father (Carlos IV)

Etc.

How far needs one to go to declare a family "Spanish"? If we go this way, we can say no one is ever "American" but always remain 'Italian" or "Spanish" or "Irish"...
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Old 12-29-2021, 09:00 AM
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How far needs one to go to declare a family "Spanish"? If we go this way, we can say no one is ever "American" but always remain 'Italian" or "Spanish" or "Irish"...
Exactly, and if people start saying that someone isn't truly British or American or Spanish or anything else, just because their ancestors several centuries ago or even several decades ago came from somewhere else, then it can lead to some quite dangerous ways of thinking.
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Old 12-29-2021, 08:07 PM
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I fully agree with both of you. Even when the subject is "blood", I cannot understand why Spanish blood could not be ascribed to Felipe VI, who descends in a nearly uninterrupted line (with just the one intermezzo of Felipe V, who did not have a Spanish parent) of Spanish and Castilian monarchs tracing to the first millennium.

If you will permit a small correction: The family names of Juan Carlos, Alfonso XII and his parents were simply de Borbón y Borbón. At the time, the Spanish, Parmese and Sicilian branches of the House of Bourbon all bore the undifferentiated surname of Bourbon.
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Old 12-30-2021, 10:27 PM
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Here’s one. There are probably more, descendants of illegimate scions of royalty.
Thank you for that information, I believe I live next to a person that is a descendant of British royalty, due to this person committing animal cruelty and when I reported this cruelty our Judicial System in Western Australia put a gag order on me, where I cannot speak about this person and the cruelty she and her husband inflicted on thier animal, I have had the police confiscated the footage of the cruelty.
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