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Old 12-13-2018, 12:25 PM
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Exclamation Disputed claims as Head of the House

In a few Houses the headship is disputed, since it is claimed by several descendants. Therefor I have some questions about that.

Rumania
In the former Kingdom of Rumania the headship is claimed by both Margareta as Crown Princess (* 1949) and Paul Hohenzollern, Prince of Rumania, (* 1948 as Paul Lambrino). Is Paul's claim legid, since I believe former King Michael appointed his daughter as legitimate successor?
And who will be their successors, since Margareta doesn't have any kids?

Savoy
In the House of Savoy (Italy/Croatia) both Vittorio Emanuele, Prince of Italy and Duke of Savoy (* 1937) and Amedeo, Crown Prince of Croatia and Duke of Aosta (* 1943) claim it.
Heir apparent to Amedeo will be his son Aimone, Duke of Apulia (* 1967), but who will it be when the childless Vittoria Emanuele is appointed as Head of the House?

Saxony
And finally in the former Kingdom of Saxony there seem to be two men who claim the titel of "Markgrave of Meißen" and thus the headship, namely Alexander [de Afif], Prince of Saxony-Gessaphe (* 1954) and Rüdiger, Prince of Saxony (* 1953).
Is already clear who of them is or will become the actual Head of the House?
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Old 12-13-2018, 10:39 PM
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Very interesting questions and I am interested in the answers in particular to Romania.
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Old 12-14-2018, 01:57 AM
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Discussion about these issues can be found within the following threads:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ion-44224.html

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...icts-2411.html

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...tin-12517.html
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:42 PM
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Prince Vittorio Emanuele, Prince of Italy has two daughters. Is his eldest daughter recognized as his heir? Or is there a male relative recognized as his heir?
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:48 PM
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Prince Vittorio Emanuele, Prince of Italy has two daughters. Is his eldest daughter recognized as his heir? Or is there a male relative recognized as his heir?
The only child of Vittorio Emanuele is his son Emanuele Filiberto, who is father to two daughters, Vittoria and Luisa. I have seen a couple of quotes from Vittorio Emanuele and Emanuele Filiberto where they seemed to recognize Emanuele Filiberto's daughters as the future heirs of the house, but I do not have enough time for now to search for those interviews. However, I was able to find this one in the Savoy section of this forum.

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Nel corso della stessa udienza, la Famiglia Reale ha espresso il più vivo ringraziamento al Santo Padre per il dono della Beatificazione di S.M. la Regina Maria Cristina di Savoia. Inoltre, S.A.R. il Principe Vittorio Emanuele, ha chiesto al Santo Padre “una particolare benedizione per tutti i Principi presenti e soprattutto per le LL.AA.RR. le Principesse Vittoria e Luisa che rappresentano in questa occasione il segno della continuità dinastica di Casa Savoia nella successione, cui sarà affidato in futuro il compito di custodia dell'eredità storica e morale della Dinastia".

Oggi ricorreva il genetliaco di S.A.R. il Principe Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia.

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Old 12-15-2018, 11:27 AM
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The only child of Vittorio Emanuele is his son Emanuele Filiberto, who is father to two daughters, Vittoria and Luisa.
Very true, somehow I overlooked Emanuele Filiberto as a future heir apparant... mea culpa
Although this doesn't answer the question who of the two - Vittorio Emanuele or Amedeo - is the rightful claimant to the headship of the House of Savoy, with their respective sons being the heirs.
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Old 12-15-2018, 12:42 PM
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Prince Vittorio Emanuele, Prince of Italy has two daughters. Is his eldest daughter recognized as his heir? Or is there a male relative recognized as his heir?
Unless the rules of Salic inheritance were changed, natural succession means Amedeo and his branch are next in line anyways. He is the next closest male dynast.
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Vittorio Emmanuele has a son, and if I'm not mistaking, two daughters. His son is Emmanuele Filiberto di Savoie, who has two daughters
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