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Old 02-02-2019, 06:47 AM
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Descendants of Catherine The Great

Who are the descendants of Catherine The Great?

I read that the royal families of Netherlands and England descend from empress Catherine II.
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Old 02-02-2019, 08:07 AM
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Who are the descendants of Catherine The Great?

I read that the royal families of Netherlands and England descend from empress Catherine II.

As the whole Romanov family is descended from Catherine and her husband tsar Peter, any Royal family with a Grand Duchess of Russia married into it is descended from Catherine.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:44 AM
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Who are the descendants of Catherine The Great?

I read that the royal families of Netherlands and England descend from empress Catherine II.
Queen Elizabeth not but her descendants do, through the Duke of Edinburgh. His paternal grandmother Q. Olga Constantinova of Greece was a Russian Grand Duchess and a great granddaughter of Empress Catherine.

The Kents descend from her in three ways through Pss Marina
Marina -> Nicholas -> Queen Olga of Greece -> GD Constantin Nicholaievitch of Russia -> Emperor Nicholas I -> Emperor Paul -> Catherine the Great.
Marina -> GDss Elena Vladimirovna of Russia -> GD Vladimir Alexandrovitch -> Emperor Alexander II -> Emperor Nicholas I -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great
Marina -> GDss Elena Vladimirovna of Russia -> Dss Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin -> GD Friedrich-Franz II -> GD Paul Friedrich -> GDss Elena Pavlovna of Russia -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great

Of the reigning royal families the Dutch descend from Catherine twice: through Q. Anna Pavlonva and from her sister Elena Pavlovna, Hereditary GDss of Mecklenburg.

The Danish queen descends from Catherine the Great four times.

Twice through Queen Alexandrine of Denmark, nee Dss of Mecklenburg-Schwerin. She descended from Elena Pavlovna though her father. Through her mother GDss Anastasia Michaelovna of Russia, was a granddaughter of Emperor Nicholas I, who was Catherine's grandson.

Another connection is through Sweden. Here there are also two connections:
Margrethe II -> Ingrid -> Gustaf Adolf -> Victoria of Baden -> Louise of Prussia -> Augusta of Saxe-Weimar -> Maria Pavlovna of Russia -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great.
Margrethe II -> Ingrid -> Margaret of Connaught -> Luise Margareta of Prussia -> Friedrich Karl of Prussia -> Marie of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach -> Maria Pavlovna of Russia -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great.

The Swedish King descends from Catherine twice through his father, who was a brother of Q. Ingrid.

The king of Spain descends from Catherine the Great in several ways:
Felipe VI -> Sofia of Greece -> Paul I of Greece -> Constantine I of Greece -> Olga Constantinova of Russia -> Constantin Nicolaevich of Russia -> Emperor Nicholas I -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great.
Felipe VI -> Sofia of Greece -> Paul I of Greece -> Sofia of Prussia -> Friedrich III -> Augusta of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach -> Maria Pavlovna of Russia -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great
Felipe VI -> Sofia of Greece -> Frederika of Hanover -> Victoria of Prussia -> Wilhelm II -> Friedrich III -> Augusta of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach -> Maria Pavlovna of Russia -> Emperor Paul I -> Catherine the Great

The monarchs of Norway, Belgium and Luxembourg do not descend from Catherine.

Note that the children of the king and queen of Greece descend from Catherine in seven different ways.
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Old 02-03-2019, 05:52 PM
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Wow! A great number of descendants of Catherine II!
Thank you very much for the answers!
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Old 02-03-2019, 06:16 PM
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Did Catherine have known children by any of her lovers?
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Old 02-03-2019, 08:29 PM
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Did Catherine have known children by any of her lovers?
Yes.

She had one officially recognized son. His name was Aleksy. He was the son of her lover Count Grigory Orlov. Aleksy was named after his Uncle and godfather, Count Aleksy Orlov. Grigory was known for his part in helping to dethrone Peter III, and giving Catherine the famous Orlov Diamond. Aleksy was raised to the ranks of a Count by his half brother Paul. He was given the name Bobrinsky for the estate he was raised on. His descendants continue today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobrinsky

There were also rumors that Elizabeth Temkina was her daughter with Potemkin but that is highly disputed. Aleksy is her only recognized child outside her marriage.
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... and Yelizaveta Grigoryevna Temkina, Count Potemkin's daughter.

https://painting-planet.com/portrait...-borovikovsky/
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... and Yelizaveta Grigoryevna Temkina, Count Potemkin's daughter.

https://painting-planet.com/portrait...-borovikovsky/
I mentioned her at the bottom of my post......but she was never acknowledged. And it is disputed.
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Old 02-03-2019, 08:54 PM
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Catherine was said to project her turbulent relationships with Count Potemkin on the girl. Furthermore, she did not want children. Yelizaveta was sent away to be raised by her father. I do not remember anyone disputing it in Russia.
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