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08-01-2019, 12:48 PM
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Thanks!
Even i posted after Appleich post i must say i don't give so much attention about the titles.
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08-01-2019, 12:52 PM
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How many concubines does the king have, and how many did his father have?
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08-01-2019, 01:43 PM
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Rama X Names First Royal Consort in Almost a Century
Rama X Names First Royal Consort in Almost a Century
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08-01-2019, 01:59 PM
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That's what I thought, but I just wanted to double check.
I wonder if this has to do with wanting more children? And maybe I've watched too many Chinese and Korean palace dramas, but if I were Queen Suthida I'd be watching my back.
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08-02-2019, 03:12 AM
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How many concubines does the king have, and how many did his father have?
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The first answer is nobody knows for sure.
The second answer is none. King Bhumibol only had Queen Sirikit as a consort. However, polygamy is not a new thing in Thai royal court. King Chulalongkorn (Rama V; great-grand father of the current king) reigned with 4 queens (concurrently) and numerous concubines. This practice discontinued during the reign of King Prajadhipok (Rama VII) as such concept has become obsolete in modern societies. For sure, bringing concubinage back in the royal court has greatly tarnished the monarchy's image as an institution.
In regard to Queen Suthida, she knows exactly what she is dealing with since she is not the first (nor the last) consort of the king.
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08-02-2019, 06:40 AM
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The Nepalese monarchy was abolished in 2008. If even the Nepalese, in general docile and with a Hinduist servitude to the high and mighty, decide to get rid of all this, this should be a warning to the Thai King that there is always a limit to eccentricities. Bearing in mind his one-day-turned-in-Queen-girfriend, his poodle with the rank of a Field Marshall and now his "lay-by-me-lady".
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08-02-2019, 11:44 AM
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I don’t know if you could draw the same conclusion on the fate of Thai monarchy with the Nepalese one or not. But one thing for sure is that, here in Thailand, people are just not so keen on the idea of replacing the monarchy with some other regimes, as of now. The institution just enjoys less public affections and prestiges compared with the previous reign.
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08-02-2019, 12:47 PM
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The first answer is nobody knows for sure.
The second answer is none. King Bhumibol only had Queen Sirikit as a consort. However, polygamy is not a new thing in Thai royal court. King Chulalongkorn (Rama V; great-grand father of the current king) reigned with 4 queens (concurrently) and numerous concubines. This practice discontinued during the reign of King Prajadhipok (Rama VII) as such concept has become obsolete in modern societies. For sure, bringing concubinage back in the royal court has greatly tarnished the monarchy's image as an institution.
In regard to Queen Suthida, she knows exactly what she is dealing with since she is not the first (nor the last) consort of the king.
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I'm sure you are correct about Queen Suthida, she's been around long enough to know how things work, and who knows what her involvement is.
It certainly is a change from the previous king. It's like watching a train wreck: you can't look away, even when you wish you could.
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08-02-2019, 01:17 PM
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The Nepalese monarchy was abolished in 2008. If even the Nepalese, in general docile and with a Hinduist servitude to the high and mighty, decide to get rid of all this, this should be a warning to the Thai King that there is always a limit to eccentricities. Bearing in mind his one-day-turned-in-Queen-girfriend, his poodle with the rank of a Field Marshall and now his "lay-by-me-lady".
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But the Nepalese monarchy was damaged by the murders in the Royal Family. It was a great tragedy. And the last king was not very popular.
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08-02-2019, 02:15 PM
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But the Nepalese monarchy was damaged by the murders in the Royal Family. It was a great tragedy. And the last king was not very popular.
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The respect, prestige and esteem King Bhumibol has build in decades, is crumbling under King Vajiyalongkorn. Of course in the military dictatorship of Thailand free voices are hardly heard. But all Thai know about the decadence, the eccentricities, the nepotism, the clientelism, the waste of the current monarchical system. Internet knows no borders. My advice to Rama is the same to all monarchs: be exemplaric, be empathic, have understanding for the needs of the people. A popular saying is: they who sit high on horseback can fall deep.
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08-02-2019, 09:59 PM
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The first answer is nobody knows for sure.
The second answer is none. King Bhumibol only had Queen Sirikit as a consort. However, polygamy is not a new thing in Thai royal court. King Chulalongkorn (Rama V; great-grand father of the current king) reigned with 4 queens (concurrently) and numerous concubines. This practice discontinued during the reign of King Prajadhipok (Rama VII) as such concept has become obsolete in modern societies. For sure, bringing concubinage back in the royal court has greatly tarnished the monarchy's image as an institution.
In regard to Queen Suthida, she knows exactly what she is dealing with since she is not the first (nor the last) consort of the king.
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Will Royal Consort Sineenat be allowed to wear the amazing golden outfits like Queen Suthida and royal Princesses? or these golden outfit can be worn only by the current Queen and Princesses of blood?
This one https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/unbe...9_original.jpg is a masterpiece.
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08-02-2019, 11:00 PM
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Will Royal Consort Sineenat be allowed to wear the amazing golden outfits like Queen Suthida and royal Princesses? or these golden outfit can be worn only by the current Queen and Princesses of blood?
This one https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/unbe...9_original.jpg is a masterpiece.
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Those traditional clothes are called ' Chut Thai Phra Ratcha Niyom' (Thai dress of royal endorsement) not specifically reserved for royalties, they are worn by ordinary citizens as well. Currently, there are 8 types of these Chut Thai, initiated and reinvented by Queen Sirikit.
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When Queen Sirikit accompanied the king in state visits to Europe and the United States in 1960, she noted that there was a need for a modern national costume suitable for formal wear. The queen had research conducted into historical records of royal dresses, and eight official designs were developed and promoted by the queen and her aides. They are named the Ruean Ton, Chit Lada, Amarin, Borom Phiman, Chakkri, Dusit, Chakkraphat and Siwalai Thai dresses. Since then, these dresses have come into regular use by the public as well.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal...tional_costume
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Galleries of meticulous Chut Thai worn by Princess Sirivannavari during the coronation: https://www.ellethailand.com/content...ronationn-2019
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08-02-2019, 11:31 PM
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Those traditional clothes are called ' Chut Thai Phra Ratcha Niyom' (Thai dress of royal endorsement) not specifically reserved for royalties, they are worn by ordinary citizens as well. Currently, there are 8 types of these Chut Thai, initiated and reinvented by Queen Sirikit.
Galleries of meticulous Chut Thai worn by Princess Sirivannavari during the coronation: https://www.ellethailand.com/content...ronationn-2019 |
Thank you for the additional information!
I have to say that Chut Thai is an impressive example of precise tailoring/fitting and amazing silks. I am sure that Queen Sirikit did her best to preserve the art of silk weaving.
On a different note, Princess Sirivannavari was impossibly elegant in the Chut Thai ensembles. Her posture was regal.
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Just been reading up on this new 'royal concubine' - read about it in the Dutch news. Rather surprised (but on the other hand - not that much either); why did he think it was a good idea to publish a picture of his concubine in her sports bra? Not sure how that will increase the people's respect?!
She even received an order. I didn't know that polygamy was an acceptable practice in Thailand... Or is it only for the king?
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08-26-2019, 06:13 PM
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I find it unnecessary for the Royal House to release official photos of the King with another woman. I do not understand what the goal is.
How many women does King Rama X have?
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What I would like to know is the status of any children that might result from a liaison with an official royal consort. Would a son be in line for the throne after the death of Rama X? If so, it might explain the resurrection of an extremely outdated custom, since in the past the sons of concubines did take the throne in some Asian monarchies. I'm aware that Rama X already has a son, but here seems to be some kind of question about his fitness to succeed.
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08-27-2019, 12:59 PM
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Sineenat
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