Queen Alia Information and Pictures: Part 1

[Reina]

In the Margaret Treadeau memoir does she talk about when QA died?

[maryshawn]

Yes, she says she was at a cocktail reception when someone came up and said "have you heard the news? Hussein's wife, Alia, has been killed in a helicopter crash." She said she went numb and later credited it partially with her decision to leave her marriage--saying "the death of Alia made a mockery of the relationship with my husband." She also was more than a bit angry that her husband had been briefed on the issue yet left a stranger to tell her at a public ceremony. Essentially, she felt a lot of dreams she had died with the loss of her close friend.

[maryshawn]

Thank you; it's one of my personal favorites. She really is a striking woman; I liked Margaret Trudeau's description of her as having an "irresistable smile." I think she really does. She also never looks contrived or superficial. Despite her concerns and troubles, I get the sense she was very much comfortable in her own skin and had a genuinely good heart.:)

Originally Posted by suria

She is amazing , i loved this photo a lot thanks alot

[suria]

Originally Posted by maryshawn

Thank you; it's one of my personal favorites. She really is a striking woman; I liked Margaret Trudeau's description of her as having an "irresistable smile." I think she really does. She also never looks contrived or superficial. Despite her concerns and troubles, I get the sense she was very much comfortable in her own skin and had a genuinely good heart.:)

yes , irresistible smile , very nice description , what makes QA special is her inner , she had a good heart , and this is reflected on her face , with this smile who can not like her , even if i don't know her and looked to this photo i will believe that she was a great mother and a beautiful lady

[T-R-O-U-B-L-E]

Originally Posted by tipper

Is it true that QN, in her bio- Leap of faith- writes that Q Alia was killed by some1 who was following Q Zein's orders? I have surely read the book, but can't recall Q Noor ever wrote it, it seems quite far fetched, and QN would have never writen something like that about her mother in law. I also read that Alia was killed as her roots were PAL, and ali was mistreated as he also had, through his late mum, PAL origins- ?????????? PS- in which way was Ali mistreated ? Never heard this be4e, does any1 know anything about these stories ?

Queen Noor never said that in her book,she only said there were rumors goin' in the country that QZ organized the whole accident to get rid of Alia,but they are JUST rumors.

[T-R-O-U-B-L-E]

Originally Posted by shelley

Abir Muhseian's father was a Jordanian/Palestinian. He was a driver in the army, maybe even in the royal palaces, I am not sure. I believe an attempt was made for him to keep seeing Abir in the beginning but as she got older, the poor girl could not cope with the huge contrasts between her real and adopted family, and so the contact eventually ceased.

Al-muhaisen are Jordanians as far as I know.

[rubaa]

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Originally Posted by suria

yes , irresistible smile , very nice description , what makes QA special is her inner , she had a good heart , and this is reflected on her face , with this smile who can not like her , even if i don't know her and looked to this photo i will believe that she was a great mother and a beautiful lady

I agree with you ,she was loved a lot by her people and she was a great queen.I love her too.

[maryshawn]

I once happened across an article--and am so mad at myself for not saving it--where friends of QA spoke of her shortly after her death. I recall it was a very warm piece and it was obvious her friends were deeply moved by QA and loved her a lot. One said even though QA was a Queen "she still was the one you could count on if you were troubled" and "if she hadn't heard from me for awhile, inevitably the phone would ring just to find out how I was doing." I thought that was very nice. I remember another woman saying she was the type who won people over very easily and "practically bounded into a room exuding enthusiasm and friendliness." Others said she was a good "counselor and listener," "never put on airs," and "went out of her way to put people at ease." This all kind of fits with her brother's portrayal of her in KH's biography by Roland Dallas where he said pretty much the same things and added something about "dinners always being interesting at our home because Alia was forever bringing people with problems along with her." Anyway, the article with her friends just struck me as such an appropriate piece. It didn't try to portray her as a saint; just was a very real account of a very real, natural, kind person. QN was lauded by KH for always putting on a good face no matter how she was suffering inside. QA took that one step further as it seemed she was always capable of setting aside her problems and really focused on others. She's one of the few people I read about I wish I had actually known.

[emily62_1]

I found the photo of QA with her mum on the Net, the caption read that was taken only 2 days before QA's death, not a year before, so that was the last time Hanan saw her daughter.

[Reina]

Hanan is QA's mom? So sad.

[salma]

Originally Posted by Reina

Hanan is QA's mom? So sad.

Yes Hanan Toukan is the mother of Queen Alia.

[Iman]

I want to know 2 things???
Did KHussein has a romance with QNoor when he was with QAlia???
If QAlia not died, was KHussein married with QNoor???

[rubaa]

Originally Posted by Iman

I want to know 2 things???
Did KHussein has a romance with QNoor when he was with QAlia???
If QAlia not died, was KHussein married with QNoor???

What i think is had Queen Alia lived there would never be anyone else ,the people loved her ,and the King adored her ,and he once commented that she was the love of his life .

[Jackswife]

Q Noor (or as she was then known, Lisa Halaby) never met Hussein until about a year after Alia's death. If Alia had lived I'm pretty sure Hussein would have stayed married to her for several more years-they seemed very much in love, and she was also apparently very well-liked among the Jordanian people. But fate had other plans.

[suria]

Originally Posted by Iman

I want to know 2 things???
Did KHussein has a romance with QNoor when he was with QAlia???
If QAlia not died, was KHussein married with QNoor???

according to my knowledge QN was working at Alia airport when KH was married to QA and they knew each other before QA's death , and after her death QN entered KH house to take care of his kids , then people start talking a bout the king relationship with QN so he married her , this is what i have heard here in Jordan


I don’t think KH would marry anyone if QA was alive, she was very popular and loved in Jordan among Jordanian and Palestinian , and they loved each other so why he would marry

[maryshawn]

There has been much speculation over when KH and QN met and they did meet officially at a formal welcoming celebration at the airport sometime in 1976 when the first jumbo jet joined ALIA, the Royal Jordanian Airline, fleet. Najeeb Halaby--Lisa Halaby's father--was a consultant to ALIA and was there and invited his daughter who was working in Tehran at the time. I once posted a shot of all of them together and QN wrote that she met QA at this occasion in her book.


KH referred often to QA as his "greatest love." And they seemed well suited for one another as they had similar interests, loved being parents, he obviously was besotted with her looks as she was very pretty, and she was jordanian/palestinian so there was none of the "outsider" or language issue KH had with his marriages to Princess Muna and Queen Noor. She also had a very endearing personality--by many accounts; Barbara Bush, Margaret Trudeau, Jehan Sadat and others all mention her in their autobiographies as a very warm, kind, intelligent and very lovely woman with a great sense of humor.

The whole issue of the quick courtship of QN the year after QA's death has always been one people have found curious. I think KH was so devastated by QA's death he simply had a hard time being alone. He tried to reach out to one american journalist, chronicaled in another article I've posted here called "The King and I," and QN wrote in her book there was an english photographer who was very upset when QN entered the picture. Apparently, according to QN, this photographer had been introduced to the King through friends and she insinuates the woman likely was hoping there was a long-term future with KH.

I would like to think that had fate decided otherwise, KH would've stayed married to QA--and not just for a few more years. I saw some rare videotape of the two of them together on a documentary aired ages ago and they look so happy with one another. He just grinned at her continually and she kept looking at him with this kind of shy, beautiful smile. OK, I'm a romantic--but they looked so great together and I think they really complemented one another!

[Reina]

Wait so that journalist really did want to be with him. But maybe it was another journalist. Isn't te journalist from 'The King and I' American?

[maryshawn]

The one who wrote "The King and I" expresses some regret she decided to pack her things and go home after her time with KH and his sending an assistant over to her hotel extending an invitation to stay on. No, the journalist QN refers to is another who she doesn't identify by name. They have to be different as the one who wrote "The King and I" was American and QN says the other was British. The British photojournalist was in Aqaba for a long weekend party when Lisa Halaby was there and Lisa was later told the woman was very unhappy Lisa had been asked to join the group--though QN writes she was oblivious to this woman's hostile attitude until someone brought it to her attention. She had thought it was all about how she saw so many people wanting KH's attention but, in this case, the photojournalist seemed to think she had a chance with KH in terms of a relationship until she saw Lisa there.

[Lyonnaise]

Please remember to credit photos as per our Copyright Rule: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forum...read.php?t=6455.

Thank you.

[Roshanah]

Originally Posted by sommone

Yes, thanks Laila. Would someone be kind enough to translate this for those who don't read or speak arabic, please.

From what I could understand within the text, it commemorates the 28th anniversary of Queen Alia's passing. Then it continues to give a consise edition of her resume.