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05-28-2009, 04:17 AM
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I pretty much figured that Princess Muna's recent dominance came from the fact that she was the mother of the king. Maybe I'm wrong?
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You are right. That's the reason.
When King Hussein married Alia Toukan on December 24, 1972 it was officially announced that he had divorced Princess Muna on December 21.
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05-28-2009, 04:34 AM
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All official sources mention that there was a divorce between King Hussein and Princess Muna, maybe it just happened later than we thought it did.
The Family tree on the late King's website makes note of the divorce The Hashemite Royal Family
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05-28-2009, 06:59 AM
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I also find it interesting that she mentioned that Princess Muna has been a more of mother figure to her. Wasn't she raised by Noor and Hussein?
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05-28-2009, 10:35 AM
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All official documents mention Princess Muna and King Hussein having been divorced when he married Queen Alia. Which is why I found it interesting that she said the opposite in the interview. I would figure she would know more or better than anyone on the subject which is why I was so confused!
Thank you for clearing that up!
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All official documents mention Princess Muna and King Hussein having been divorced when he married Queen Alia. Which is why I found it interesting that she said the opposite in the interview. I would figure she would know more or better than anyone on the subject which is why I was so confused!
Thank you for clearing that up!
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Perhaps they had divorced on paper but were still married in the eyes of God??
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03-09-2012, 12:37 PM
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This is a rather intriguing question; every single source I've ever read on King Hussein and his wives clearly state he never had more than one wife at a time. It is also clearly stated the King divorced Princess Muna days before he married Queen Alia.
I also find it interesting Princess Haya names Muna as a mother figure, not Noor. It has always been my impression that Queen Noor raised Alia's children after their mother's untimely death. Still, I guess such a high praise from a daughter of your former husband speaks volumes of Princess Muna's character. My respect towards her has certainly gone up.
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12-29-2012, 05:19 AM
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^ that's strange that haya names muna as her mother figure. wasn't Noor who raise her and I thought they have a close relationship.
Anyway, I think all Hussein's wives are beautiful, especially Dina, Alia and Noor. But I think Noor is his favorite, is that right?
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12-29-2012, 09:57 AM
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^ that's strange that haya names muna as her mother figure. wasn't Noor who raise her and I thought they have a close relationship.
Anyway, I think all Hussein's wives are beautiful, especially Dina, Alia and Noor. But I think Noor is his favorite, is that right?
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Queen Alia was his favorite too but she has passed away in 1977 ,,, And yes Queen Noor was his favorite that's why he stayed with her 20 years .
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01-01-2013, 09:32 AM
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King Hussein dated this actress, and after breaking up he discovered that she was jewish. Interesting:
Susan Cabot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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01-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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I don't think King Hussein broke up with her because she was Jewish,
because Princess Muna was Jewish born !!
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01-01-2013, 10:49 AM
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I don't think King Hussein broke up with her because she was Jewish,
because Princess Muna was Jewish born !!
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Yes! but he divorced her becuase she refused to convert to muslim.
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01-01-2013, 10:57 AM
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Yes! but he divorced her becuase she refused to convert to muslim.
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No dear, King Hussein knew from the beginning that Muna is a Jewish born. Their marriage lasted for 11 years, so he did not divorce her because she refused to convert to Islam. He divorced her because he fell in love with Queen Alia!
Muna does not have the "Queen" title because she did not convert to Islam! Noor got the title because she converted to Islam! By the way, Noor is a Jewish born dear! Her family from her mother's side are all Jews! The proof of Noor being a half Jew, or maybe full Jew were her tears is Rabin's funeral. The Israeli minister of Israel, he is her aunt's husband!! I mean her mother's sister's husband!
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Where do people get the idea that Antoinette Gardiner (Princess Muna) was Jewish or that Doris Carlquist Halaby (Noor's mother), a woman of Swedish descent, was Jewish? How does shedding tears at the funeral of Rabin, a man with whom Hussein had worked for peace and was murdered for it, make anyone Jewish? Did King Husseins speaking at Rabins funeral turn him into a Jew? So ridiculous. Sounds like the typical malicious Amman gossip to detract from both ladies.
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01-01-2013, 11:39 AM
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No dear, King Hussein knew from the beginning that Muna is a Jewish born. Their marriage lasted for 11 years, so he did not divorce her because she refused to convert to Islam. He divorced her because he fell in love with Queen Alia!
Muna does not have the "Queen" title because she did not convert to Islam! Noor got the title because she converted to Islam! By the way, Noor is a Jewish born dear! Her family from her mother's side are all Jews! The proof of Noor being a half Jew, or maybe full Jew were her tears is Rabin's funeral. The Israeli minister of Israel, he is her aunt's husband!! I mean her mother's sister's husband!
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Really?
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01-01-2013, 12:21 PM
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Antoinette Gardiner converted to Islam - from Christianity.
She converted a few days before her mariage and assumed then her new name Muna. That's why her son Abdullah could become heir to the throne immediately after his birth and again 1999.
The Jordanian constitution requires that any heir to the throne be born of a legitimate couple, and both parents should be Muslims.
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01-01-2013, 12:45 PM
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Antoinette Gardiner converted to Islam - from Christianity.
She converted a few days before her mariage and assumed then her new name Muna. That's why her son Abdullah could become heir to the throne immediately after his birth and again 1999.
The Jordanian constitution requires that any heir to the throne be born of a legitimate couple, and both parents should be Muslims.
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Oh, come on! Does the king have to comply with the constitution? Of course Not. Dear I am not making stuff up. Muna AlHussein till this moment is still Christian, she never converted to Islam like Noor!!
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Where do people get the idea that Antoinette Gardiner (Princess Muna) was Jewish or that Doris Carlquist Halaby (Noor's mother), a woman of Swedish descent, was Jewish? How does shedding tears at the funeral of Rabin, a man with whom Hussein had worked for peace and was murdered for it, make anyone Jewish? Did King Husseins speaking at Rabins funeral turn him into a Jew? So ridiculous. Sounds like the typical malicious Amman gossip to detract from both ladies.
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Dear, I am a very close friend to the family!! I have pictures of Noor's family where you can see her family members wearing the KIPA. Christians don't wear KIPA like Jews do!!
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Well dear I do believe you need to recheck your "facts" again. The Carlquists were Lutherans not Jewish and crying at a funeral does not make Noor Jewish either.
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01-01-2013, 01:21 PM
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Oh, come on! Does the king have to comply with the constitution? Of course Not. Dear I am not making stuff up. Muna AlHussein till this moment is still Christian, she never converted to Islam like Noor!!
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KHussein himself emphasized several times that Muna is now a Muslim (of course, it's up to you to believe that he was a chronic liar). And when the King of Jordan wants to not comply with the constitution, he is doing something to change the specific article of the constitution relevant for the matter. KHussein was always eager to create the impression not to break the constitution but to fulfill it. He would have ammended the constitution like he did in 1965 when he wanted to be able to name a brother crown prince instead of the eldest son.
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01-01-2013, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NGalitzine
Where do people get the idea that Antoinette Gardiner (Princess Muna) was Jewish or that Doris Carlquist Halaby (Noor's mother), a woman of Swedish descent, was Jewish? How does shedding tears at the funeral of Rabin, a man with whom Hussein had worked for peace and was murdered for it, make anyone Jewish? Did King Husseins speaking at Rabins funeral turn him into a Jew? So ridiculous. Sounds like the typical malicious Amman gossip to detract from both ladies.
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As far as I know the Gardiners are Jews!! This is what I get it from I could be right or wrong, So you need to calm Down when trying to correct an info!
According to King Hussein's book (uneasy lies the head) princess Muna did convert to Islam and she is the one who asked not to have the title Queen.
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