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Old 01-18-2020, 05:33 AM
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The argument in the UMI's reaction is not too viable: It "seems evident to anyone who has a limited knowledge of the law, and of the constitutional law in particular", that "the forms proper to the State" have not only "modif[ied] the succession to the throne", but abolished the throne altogether.
With that - like in Romania and Russia - a glass dome has been placed over the monarchy.
The other end is that one accepts a private person has dicatorial powers and decides how, when and who. Holding powers that even reigning Kings never ever have had. Reigning King Umberto II or reigning King Michael never had any authority to change a comma in the succession, but when non-reigning, suddenly all divine powers befell them or their issue?

The position of the monarchist alliance that it is ultimately to the Italians to decide if, and when, and how, the monarchy will be restored is actually the democratically and constitutionally correct one.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:48 AM
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With that - like in Romania and Russia - a glass dome has been placed over the monarchy.
The monarchies were fully abolished in all of the said countries. Even the last kings were not permitted to remain under a glass dome, but forced into exile or, in the case of Russia, executed.

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The other end is that one accepts a private person has dicatorial powers and decides how, when and who. Holding powers that even reigning Kings never ever have had. Reigning King Umberto II or reigning King Michael never had any authority to change a comma in the succession, but when non-reigning, suddenly all divine powers befell them or their issue?
I would think that any private person has the power to decide to claim the non-existent Italian throne. If it were a crime, then the heads of both branches would surely have been charged already.


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The position of the monarchist alliance that it is ultimately to the Italians to decide if, and when, and how, the monarchy will be restored is actually the democratically and constitutionally correct one.
Is that their position? The link posted earlier in the thread claimed that their position was in support of the Aostas.
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Old 01-18-2020, 10:29 AM
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Why so late ? Is Prince Vittorio Emanuele in bad health ?
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Old 01-18-2020, 11:54 AM
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Why so late ? Is Prince Vittorio Emanuele in bad health ?
I don't know about the health of Vittorio Emanuele, but he certainly looks immobile and frail. This picture is made in 2017: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/J00A2N/vit...rio-J00A2N.jpg

Now we are three years furtherer.
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Old 01-18-2020, 12:37 PM
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Why so late ? Is Prince Vittorio Emanuele in bad health ?
It was dated on 28 December 2019; so, on princess Vittoria's 16th birthday. So, while late, at least it wasn't done on a random date.
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