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12-10-2007, 09:55 AM
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Hey giov, wouldn't you really compare Vittorio Emanuele II to his descendants bearing the same name? He, he?
Do you know of the legend surrounding the birth of V. E. II?
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I didn't even name him, Tosca! 
I just named my favourite Savoias!
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12-17-2007, 04:22 PM
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Sorry for the long post. Hope it wasn't too boring
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actualy,I enjoyed your post alot. thanks for these precious informations.
BTW,what is the legend surrounding the birth of V.E the second ?
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12-21-2007, 10:14 AM
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Last night I was watching the daily satirical TV show on one of the Mediaset channel, so I went to visit their website, where they host the video clips shown the night before. This one is about Prince Emanuele Filiberto being interviewed for the state run TV. It shows that the interview has been manipulated, but at the same time they're joking on Emanuele Filiberto's bent for wine:
Video Mediaset.it
The second one shows the prince of Venice interviewed by my fellow citizen, comedian Carlo Ghiozzi that takes a mickey out of him about the recent request of the Savoia family. Please notice the last part of the video: when asked if he's willing to apologize on behalf of his family about the racial laws his grand father signed, Vittorio Emanuele appeared to be confused. Look how quickly his wife Marina prompted him, talking to him in French: "But we did apologize for the past!" I guess she's the one that "wears the trousers" in that family!
Video Mediaset.it
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01-21-2008, 10:10 AM
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02-29-2008, 04:25 PM
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Prince Vittorio Emanuele from Savoy, his wife Marina Doria and his son
Prince Emanuele participate in a memorial service for the 100th birthday
of the Polish-French artist Balthus, in Rossiniere, Switzerland, 29 February
2008. Balthus was born 29 February 1908 in Paris as Balthazar Klossowski
and died 18 February 2001 at the Grand Chalet de Rossiniere.
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Found something rare...a new pic of Maria Pia!
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6...isavoiawt5.jpg
patrick mcmullen
Its from mid March at the The Palm Beach Preservation Ball, and she's pictures with Lord Charles Spencer Churchill.
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08-17-2008, 08:03 AM
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Casa Reale d'Italia
I don't know since what time it already exists but there's a new "family group photo" in website of Savoia.
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08-17-2008, 08:11 AM
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La Venaria Reale - Mostre ed eventi
The palace Venaria Reale presents the exibition dedicated to coats worn by Queen Maria Jose'. The exibition started the 1 june and it will finished the 3 november 2008.
One of these coats was used durnig the baptism of Maria Pia and Vittorio Emanuele.
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09-17-2008, 07:38 AM
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Princess Maria Pia di Savoia and her second husband Michele of Bourbon-Parma attending the wedding of Cornelia Brandolini d'Adda in Paris.
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Princess Maria Pia di Savoia and her second husband Michele of Bourbon-Parma attending the wedding of Cornelia Brandolini d'Adda in Paris.
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where do they live? in paris?
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09-17-2008, 09:42 AM
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where do they live? in paris?
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Yes, they live in Paris, as far as I know.
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09-23-2008, 11:15 AM
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I'm sorry, but VE is not the Head of the Family, due to his wedding; Family Laws and Statuto Albertino are clear in this connection. Amedeo is the Head of the Family, since March 18, 1983.
Don't you think we can return to have the Monarchy in the future? I hope so...with Amedeo & Aimone
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09-23-2008, 11:40 AM
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Dear Mafan, many years ago an important Monarchist association asked me an opinion about the whole thing. I wrote my report, it was also published on some magazines. The result of my analysis was clear: VE lost his rights due to his wedding with a commoner, Mrs Marina Ricolfi-Doria, and for other reasons.
But nowadays there is not a "superior power", who can say "the new Head of the House is Amedeo". There are only parties like Unione Monarchica, Consulta dei Senatori del Regno, Alleanza Monarchica, etc, who support the one o the other pretender, but they have no legal power...
At the very end: cui prodest all this? Nobody, it is only a game that involves "small potentates".
To be "Head of the House" means have the power to give decorations (=money, a lot of money...). This is what VE and many of the pretenders to different thrones do...
The different supporters at the highest level, want only to have an appointment in the "Royal Household".
I think a Monarchy can give stability to a country, but I do not think Italy will have one in the future...
I am a Monarchist, who knows our "Monarchs", this is why I wrote you this answer.
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09-23-2008, 11:57 AM
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Thank you, Count. I agree with you when you say that a Monarchy can give stability to a country, and, living in Italy, I hope Monarchy will return as soon as possible. Only for that reason I say that Amedeo is the Head of the Family, because I hope that when this day will arrive Italians will know the real status of people who call themselves "Prince" (read: VE and EF) but are not so.
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09-24-2008, 12:38 AM
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Don't you think we can return to have the Monarchy in the future? I hope so...with Amedeo & Aimone
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At my beginning in this forum [nearly at 2004],I asked this question and the answer from italians at the forum was that most of the italian people don't care about savoy RF nor follow their news nor thinking about the return of the monarchy but now,I think there is a change as some italians begin to think of the return of the monarchy which wasn't all bad.
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09-24-2008, 03:32 AM
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at my beginning in this forum [nearly at 2004],I asked this question and the answer from italians at the forum was that most of the italian people don't care about savoy RF nor follow their news nor thinking about the return of the monarchy but now,I think there is a change as some italians begin to think of the return of the monarchy which wasn't all bad.
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Italy a Monarchy again?Not likely,even less so then seeing pigs fly.
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Rain?On Patmos?In september?Never!It will be gorgious blue sky and a blistering sun as always that time of year   |
OK OK,sooner or later reality bites one in the behind to proof one is wrong.
Unfortunately,the weather in Greece at present is just downpour after downpour.
Hope that either the Gods on the Olympic,or/and St.John have mercy on Aimone and Olga this saturday. 
(St.John lived there after his flight from the Holy Land and wrote his Book of Revelations there,on beautifull Patmos.
The Island is a (happy & sunny usually) shrine almost,to the Greek Orthodox and all of the Christian Faiths).
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09-24-2008, 04:14 AM
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a Monarchy can give stability to a country
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By installing another dictator?
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Originally Posted by lucien
at my beginning in this forum [nearly at 2004],I asked this question and the answer from italians at the forum was that most of the italian people don't care about savoy RF nor follow their news nor thinking about the return of the monarchy but now,I think there is a change as some italians begin to think of the return of the monarchy which wasn't all bad.
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Italy a Monarchy again?Not likely,even less so then seeing pigs fly.
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Again, that's the average Italians think: they don't care much about the Savoy Family. Proof of this is that in Italy the British Royals and the Grimaldi are by far more popular than the Savoys are.
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09-27-2008, 02:51 PM
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The Savoy Dinasty is not very popular in Italy but Prince Amedeo is quite respected and invited to different important events.Unfortunately Prince Aimone is not very known by the Italians.
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10-02-2008, 04:01 PM
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Pics 1.10.2008
Prince Vittorio Emanuele of Savoy and wife Princess Marina
Doria of Savoy with friends in Milan, Italy -01/10/2008
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Note to members
The Italian subforum will not be used as a propaganda vehicle to advance the claims of one side of the Savoy family over the other.
The slew of posts made today across various threads pushing such an agenda have been removed.
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