Royal House of Savoy current events 2 : March 2007 - - Page 5

Alberto2244 · #81 06-26-2009, 04:37 PM

She´s "strange" not because her son commited suicide or her EX-husband was murdered in odd circunstances. But because SHE herself tried to commit suicide in order to get married to a man she abandoned later. Queen Maria José said she was "nuts".
She gave much head ache to her father until she got married pregnant (in 1970!!) in Mexico far from her parents

**iceflower** · #82 07-23-2009, 05:45 AM

Prince Victor Emmanuele of Savoy and Princess Marina
of Savoy enjoying some summer holidays at the island
Corsica, France, July 21, 2009

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**MAfan** · #83 07-24-2009, 05:20 PM

HRH Princess Maria Gabriella attended the italian tv-show "Enigma", talking about her mother, the late Queen Maria Josè of Italy.
Rai.it - Rai Tre

maria-olivia · #84 07-24-2009, 05:34 PM

MAfan , she speaks about her mother but sold her jewelry on an auction..after writing a book about the Savoy jewelry.
Strange she was the godmother of Prince Umberto and was not there ..
Princess Claude de France , Aymon's mother was not there too

**MAfan** · #85 07-27-2009, 08:05 AM

Yes, Maria Olivia, she talks about her mother but she has sold her jewelry: but I guess this was a decision taken with her sister and her brother; and considerig the bad relations between the three sister and their brother (and his wife), I'm not surprised that they have decided to sell her jewelry. A similar decision is easyer then to divide the jewels between them...(Who knows? To avoid to see these jewels worn by Marina? Maybe...but this is only a bad speculation of mine)
About the christening of Umberto, I've been surprised too from the absence of Maria Gabriella and, most of all, of Claude...but, (another speculation) it is said that the relations between the two Families (Savoy and Orleans) are or were quite bad, nobody of the Orleans except Claude attended the wedding of Olga and Aimone, despite of they are close relatives both of Aimone and Olga.
And more, Claude now is a divorced woman, and the christening was a Catholic one, and we know the position of the Catholic Church about divorced people...

**MAfan** · #86 07-27-2009, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAfan

HRH Princess Maria Gabriella attended the italian tv-show "Enigma", talking about her mother, the late Queen Maria Josè of Italy.
Rai.it - Rai Tre

Rai.TV - Enigma - Maria José, l'ultima regina
Here is the video of the show; only the first half (55 min. ca) is about Queen Maria Josè, with Princess Maria Gabriella.
The video is in Italian.

maria-olivia · #87 07-27-2009, 12:31 PM

MAfan , about speculations it must have been something between Michel of Greece and the Orléans. Claude , altough she married 3 times was at the Duke of Vendome's wedding.

Tosca · #88 08-04-2009, 10:28 AM

There are pictures of Pr. Vittorio Emanuele and his wife P.ss Marina cruising off Sardinia on a yacht on this week's issue of Dipiù mag.
The article has topless pictures of Marina, which aren't absolutely a great sight. I mean razzis should be respectful to a woman in her '70s!

rominet09 · #89 08-04-2009, 10:41 AM

I agree with you about the lack of respect of a lady in her 70's BUT is it really sensible to go topless when you know the paparazzi are interested in you ?

**MAfan** · #90 09-23-2009, 02:22 PM

Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia will be put on trial, accused of having took part in criminal organisation and corruption. He was arrested after the investigations in June 2006 (I know, here in Italy we have a very slow Justice...)
Here is an article fron Italian newspaper "Corriere della Sera":
Potenza, Vittorio Emanuele rinviato a giudizio per associazione a delinquere - Corriere della Sera

Here is the thread about the investigations and his arrest:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-a-7827-3.html

queenofthelight · #91 09-25-2009, 12:47 PM

Prince Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia with his wife, Princess Marina while doing the shopping in Milan (23/09/2009).

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maria-olivia · #92 09-25-2009, 01:49 PM

MaFan , What sort of person is Marina de Savoie/Doria ??
Why did VE marry her ??

**MAfan** · #93 09-25-2009, 06:11 PM

Good question, Maria Olivia.
Once her sister in law Princess Maria Gabriella described her as "a woman very fond of money, because of she comes from a family of failed enterpreneurs"; she added also that in her opinion Marina and Emanuele Filiberto "should have done more for Vittorio Emanuele"; she also told that he is very ingenuous, and surrounded by a lot of people whose suggestions he always follows.
Surely Maria Gabriella is a "first-hand" source, but...it is known that she never liked Marina.
My opinion on her and her husband is that he is a very frail man, and that she uses to lead him; I've seen an interview with him, where she suggested him the answers in French and he repeated in Italian what Marina told him...this fact confirms what Maria Gabriella told about him.
She surely is very intelligent, and determinate to have what she wants; they met, they fell in love and married after a very long (16 years) engagement. She wanted to become a princess, and somehow she has obtained it; at least, she feels to be a princess, but when I see her on tv my thought is that she is only a parvenue, the woman who wants to be a princess, maybe a queen, and that behaves in a way that she thinks to be "princely" or "royal".
I see her on tv, and I see a woman who watchs otherpeople with a feeling of superiority; she rarely talks, always in French even if to the Italian medias.
I think she is the missing half of him, and him of her: they complete each other, she has the calm, the rationality, somehow the intelligence he misses; somehow she can "control" him, she has a great power on him, but she doesn't use this power always in the better way.
I repeat: this is only an opinion of mine, maybe wrong; but I hope to have helped you.

Tosca · #94 12-02-2009, 10:41 AM

Prince Vittorio Emanuele and Princess Marina at the christening of little Fabrizio, the son of Marquis Paolo dal Pozzo with wife Claudia.

DIVAeDONNA

amedea · #95 12-02-2009, 04:30 PM

Is it the dal Pozzo d'Annone family? The article reports some details on the family and on the place of the christening? The two in the pic are the parents of the child?

Tosca · #96 12-03-2009, 10:03 AM

The caption doesn't say much, apart from the name of the kid's parents. They just mention the Marquis and Marquise Dal Pozzo. The ceremony took place at San Francesco di Paola's in Via Manzoni in Milan.

**iceflower** · #97 12-15-2009, 02:27 AM

Vanessa Von Zitwitz, Princess Marina of Savoy and Princess Ruspoli
attend 'The Best Awards 2009' hosted by Massimo Gargia at Salon
Hoche on December 14, 2009 in Paris, France.

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maria-olivia · #98 12-15-2009, 06:14 AM

MAfan , 40 years ago I was in a finishing school in Oxford. Amoung the students we had Marie Beatrice di Sarre (Savoie) she shared her appartment with Alda Doria, Marina's sister.

**MAfan** · #99 12-15-2009, 08:55 AM

Thanks Maria-Olivia, that's interesting and quite curious; Count of Sarre was the title choosen by King Umberto II to use during his exile, although he was usually known as King of Italy ("O Rey de Italia" among the people of Cascais).

**MAfan** · #**100** 12-17-2009, 04:17 AM

HRH Princess Maria Gabriella of Savoy gave an interview to the blog AltezzaReale, about the Foundation "Umberto II e Maria José of Savoy", that She created to collect all the heirlooms linked to House Savoy (pictures, dresses, paintings, old newspapers, letters, books and documents) and to her ancestors, included some heirlooms belonged to Her Grandfather King Albert I of the Belgians (His eyeglasses, a wisp of hair, His first vest, showed in the second picture).
Then She talked about Her nephew Emanuele Filiberto and of his lifestyle, that She disagree with because "he takes advantage of his, of our name", and She reasserted Her support to the claims of Prince Amedeo and his descendants to the Headship of the Royal Family, and that's the reason, she explained, due to she has given as a present to the little Prince Umberto the chevaliere (a small ring with tngraved the coat of arms of the Royal Family) belonged to the late King.
Finally the Princess was asked about the new generations of Royals, among whom She appreciates Mathilde and Philippe of Belgium, "a very close couple, nice, united, and they work together for their country"; later she talked about Her royal connections and friends, among whom the King of Spain, the Duke of Lugo ("a very kind person"), King Fouad of Egypt, the Duke of Bragança, the Orleans. She ended the interview with a nice anecdote of the Christmas time when the Italian, French and Spanish Royals lived quite close in Portugal, and they used to spend the Christmas eve "chez les Barcelonne" (the family of the Count and Countess of Barcelona, parents of the present King of Spain), the Christmas day "chez les Paris" (the Count and Countess of Paris and their 11 children) and the Epiphany day all together "chez les italiens".

Here is the link to the interview (in italian).