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07-21-2008, 11:17 PM
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A recent posting on the blog of royal author Marlene Koenig about the couple: Royal Musings: Aimone and Olga
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07-23-2008, 12:02 AM
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Has to be the royal world's longest running engagement. Wasn't there a similar case back a few years ago between a Wurtemberg duchess and someone else? Then there was an engagement between a Murat princess and an Orleans prince, which also died a quiet death. Why announce it and then let it linger so long if you're having second thoughts for any reason? Makes no sense to me, and I can't figure out an explanation for this one. Could it have something to do with the Aosta's dynastic claims? Could they have discovered that Pss. Olga may not be able to bear children?
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07-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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If the posting is correct they are still together although they did not appear as a couple in the last two years. Perhaps they were married and did not feel like letting us know about it?
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07-23-2008, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
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If the posting is correct they are still together although they did not appear as a couple in the last two years. Perhaps they were married and did not feel like letting us know about it?
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Which posting? Personally, I would only trust Italians or people at least living in Italy and closely following events. Certain bloggers I do not trust.
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07-23-2008, 10:43 AM
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Could it have something to do with the Aosta's dynastic claims? Could they have discovered that Pss. Olga may not be able to bear children?
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Apparently it all has to do with the scandal involving Prince Amedeo, when his ex mistress told the press that she had become pregnant with him, but he refused to accept the baby. So she said she felt obliged to go and blab to the medias. Later on Amedeo recognized the girl, who is affected with the Down syndrome. Olga and Aimone haven't appeared since.
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07-23-2008, 11:09 AM
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Apparently it all has to do with the scandal involving Prince Amedeo, when his ex mistress told the press that she had become pregnant with him, but he refused to accept the baby. So she said she felt obliged to go and blab to the medias. Later on Amedeo recognized the girl, who is affected with the Down syndrome. Olga and Aimone haven't appeared since.
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Thank you for reminding me, now I remember there was the scandal with the mistress. Wasn't she Dutch or Scandinavian, and he was forced to give the child the Savoia name? Well, I've read elsewhere on line that there are other causes behind Aimone and Olga not marrying, and to give you an idea the posters involved were making allusions and comparisons to Ludwig II of Bavaria and his fiancee...marriage that never happened. Although I think this is all somewhat wishful thinking by some about Prince Aimone. 
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07-23-2008, 11:23 AM
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His mistress is a Dutch documentary film maker. She has disappeared too, just like Olga and Aimone. All that I know is that he's currently living and working in Moscow.
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07-23-2008, 11:27 AM
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Which posting? Personally, I would only trust Italians or people at least living in Italy and closely following events. Certain bloggers I do not trust.
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Benjamin I was referring to Benjamin's posting of 7/21/08 "Royal musings"
it mentioned that Aimone and Olga live together in Moscow.
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Has to be the royal world's longest running engagement. Wasn't there a similar case back a few years ago between a Wurtemberg duchess and someone else? Then there was an engagement between a Murat princess and an Orleans prince, which also died a quiet death. Why announce it and then let it linger so long if you're having second thoughts for any reason? Makes no sense to me, and I can't figure out an explanation for this one. Could it have something to do with the Aosta's dynastic claims? Could they have discovered that Pss. Olga may not be able to bear children?
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It where Prince Jean of France, Duke of Vedôme and Duchess Tatiana of Oldenbrug. and also Prince Gustav of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg and Elvire Paste.
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07-23-2008, 04:19 PM
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It where Prince Jean of France, Duke of Vedôme and Duchess Tatiana of Oldenbrug. and also Prince Gustav of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg and Elvire Paste.
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Yes, I don't know where I got "Wurtemberg" instead of "Oldenburg"  I think this one never happened because the Orleans family wanted her to convert to Catholicism and eventually she was not willing.
I do wonder if Olga does marry Aimone, and if they have sons, what their succession rights will be? Is Olga considered a dynast inside the Greek royal house? So possibly any children might have succession claims in both Italian and Greek royal lines?
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07-23-2008, 04:40 PM
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I do wonder if Olga does marry Aimone, and if they have sons, what their succession rights will be? Is Olga considered a dynast inside the Greek royal house? So possibly any children might have succession claims in both Italian and Greek royal lines?
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Neither Olga nor her sister have succession rights in Greece as the marriage of their parents was non-dynastic.
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07-23-2008, 04:51 PM
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If the posting is correct they are still together although they did not appear as a couple in the last two years. Perhaps they were married and did not feel like letting us know about it?
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Aimone and Olga were present at an Italian monarchist gathering in late 2006 (source: Unione Monarchica Italiana Varese - Foto). Then, in April 2007, they attended a party for Christian Louboutin, who is a friend of the Princess (source: sur la terre).
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Has anyone seen them together since the April 2007 party? Or separately?
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07-24-2008, 06:41 PM
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Was either Aimone or any member of his immediate family (parents) invited to the christening of Prince Emanuele Filiberto's newest daughter? Similarly, one wonders when and if Aimone and Olga marry, whether Prince Michel will go along with the Aosta's insistence at not inviting either the Princes of Naples nor the Princes of Venice. And I assume they would indeed not be invited. In fact I can't think of any single public or social event since the marriage of the Prince of Asturias where both the Aostas and the Naples/Venices were all present. Can you?
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07-24-2008, 10:09 PM
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I do not believe that Prince Michael will be too upset if the Princes of Naples/Venice are not invited to the wedding. Since the feud between the Aostas and the Naples is well publicised, if and when Princess Olga marries Aimone, one can say with certainty that they will not be among the guests.
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07-25-2008, 09:43 AM
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Olycom has a gallery with pictures from that day. Aimone was there, but he was photographed next to his father, step-mother and Princess Maria Gabriella.
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and also a few pics of Olga and Aimone taken in Turin in November 2007
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07-25-2008, 11:52 AM
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Both Vittorio Emanuele and Amedeo attended the reopening of The Venaria Reale on October 11 2007. They both were sitting in the first row, but very distant from each other. Princess Maria Gabriella, VE's sister, was sitting next to Amedeo who attended with his wife Silvia and with Aimone.
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I think Princess Maria Gabriella is a rather strange woman. She seems to have set herself up as the judge in this vendetta purely based on the fact that she's more of an intellectual than her sisters. So she has disavowed her own brother, which of course can be her choice, however there is such a thing as dynastic right, and loyalty to the concept of dynastic right, and she seems not to have considered this at all in her purely personal preferences. The best thing might have been inf V-E had renounced his own succession claims in favor of his son, especially since he must stand trial now in Caserta (?) which is an appalling thing for a private citizen much less the son of a former reigning king.
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