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09-22-2008, 04:53 PM
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That was so sweet, especially coming on an official letterhead from the Capo de la Casa Realle di Savoia.........do you suppose he used it as a reminder of who is still "in charge"?
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09-22-2008, 05:11 PM
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That was so sweet, especially coming on an official letterhead from the Capo de la Casa Realle di Savoia.........do you suppose he used it as a reminder of who is still "in charge"?
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One imagines that to be the reasoning behind it. lol. Needless to say, it is probably quite safe to assume the Prince of Naples did not receive an invitation.
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09-22-2008, 06:17 PM
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This is an important for the battle of Amedeo to be Head of the House against the cousin Vittorio Emanuele: Vittorio Emanuele and Emanuele Filiberto married commoners, on the contrary the Aosta branch has always had marriages with royal princesses.
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If EF doesn't have any sons, the leadership of the House of Savoy will automatically pass to the Aosta branch because of Salic law. VE has no brothers and no paternal uncles.
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09-23-2008, 02:43 AM
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Can VE pull a Michael of Romania and change the house laws so that Vittoria could one day become head of house, or would that require constitutional change?
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09-23-2008, 03:45 AM
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If EF doesn't have any sons, the leadership of the House of Savoy will automatically pass to the Aosta branch because of Salic law. VE has no brothers and no paternal uncles.
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This is correct, if EF will not have a son, the branch Aosta will be the only surviving branch. Maybe the Grandchildren of Amedeo, it to long time for him!
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09-23-2008, 03:50 AM
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Can VE pull a Michael of Romania and change the house laws so that Vittoria could one day become head of house, or would that require constitutional change?
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Vittorio Emanuele as Head of the House can change the family laws, but in that case the Italian Monarchists and the Aosta branch will, maybe, refuse a Pretendent, who does not come from the Savoia House.
It is a bit complicated...
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In a letter written to VE in January 1960, King Umberto II wrote that he has not the right to change the succession law (Tale legge, io 44mo Capo Famiglia, non intendo e non ho diritto di mutare). So, I don't think the Head of the Family, who however is Amedeo, can change them...
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09-23-2008, 09:27 AM
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It is a bit complicated...
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Much with all due respect, but this series of disputes among Amedeo, Vittorio Emanuele (that my old mother still calls "The King", and alas, Princess Marina "the Queen") and Emanuele Filiberto, sounds so much like to what Berlusconi would refer as a "teatrino" (sort of a puppet theatre).
Hopefully Aimone and Olga will bring some seriousness into the Royal House.
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09-23-2008, 10:39 AM
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Much with all due respect, but this series of disputes among Amedeo, Vittorio Emanuele (that my old mother still calls "The King", and alas, Princess Marina "the Queen") and Emanuele Filiberto, sounds so much like to what Berlusconi would refer as a "teatrino" (sort of a puppet theatre).
Hopefully Aimone and Olga will bring some seriousness into the Royal House.
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I fully agree with you Tosca. Personally I do not like VE+EF+Amedeo, the only one I like because I think could change something is Aimone. He is the only Savoia who started to work after the college: he knows the difficulties of life and how hard is to earn a salary every month...
He left Italy for Moscow when the life there was still difficult.
We are talking about "Kings" without crown only to spend a little bit of time...
For the moment VE is the Head of the House, even if I do not like it, all the rest is bla bla!
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In a letter written to VE in January 1960, King Umberto II wrote that he has not the right to change the succession law (Tale legge, io 44mo Capo Famiglia, non intendo e non ho diritto di mutare). So, I don't think the Head of the Family, who however is Amedeo, can change them...
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The Head of a House is the only who has the right to change, if he wants, all laws of the family (Statuto di Famiglia).
If the family still reigns all changes should be approved by the Parliament of the State, but for Savoia this is not valid anymore.
When King Umberto II wrote that letter, probably he had the hope to see his descendents on the throne of our country...
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09-23-2008, 12:19 PM
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This is correct MAfan
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09-23-2008, 12:23 PM
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This is correct MAfan
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09-23-2008, 01:11 PM
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Both bride and groom are from deposed royal houses, what do they live on? Do they have an inheritance, property, and art or jewel collection to speak of?
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09-23-2008, 05:33 PM
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They both have jobs.
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09-24-2008, 06:11 AM
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I think that the weather is going to be much better until Saturday.
BTW,Madonna's concert will take place in Athens at the same day,so the weather MUST be good.Let's hope that God will do something about this...
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09-25-2008, 04:41 AM
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French Magazines seems to be interested in this wedding much more than the Italian ones.
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French people know more the Aosta branch because Aimone's mother is princess Claude of France, now they also know Emanuele Filiberto and Vittorio Emanuele because of the wedding with Clotilde. Some years ago these last two where almost unknown.
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09-25-2008, 08:12 AM
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I hope in next week's issue, they get to be on the cover...the whole cover and not a corner.
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Let's hope so.......there is always a chance the Saskozy-Bruni clan will do something out of the ordinary and they land again on the cover, so Olga and Aimone will end up in a half a page article............ 
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09-26-2008, 03:43 AM
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They both have jobs.
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Do they manage to upkeep a highstandard of living? Do they have any jewels, properties, or art which belongs to their royal heritage?
Any pics of their weddings?
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09-26-2008, 09:53 AM
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Because of her father morganatic marriage, Olga is not a Royal Princess, is she?
Does anybody know if Aimone's marriage is ok for the "Norms governing marriages in the House of Savoy"?
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09-26-2008, 10:07 AM
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Because of her father morganatic marriage, Olga is not a Royal Princess, is she?
Does anybody know if Aimone's marriage is ok for the "Norms governing marriages in the House of Savoy"?
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Olga in not a Royal Princess because of her Parents marriage. King Konstantinos recognized for his daughters the title "Princess of Greece", but not the status of Royal Highness.
For Savoy House Laws the marriage is ok, because she come from a Royal Family. However Prince Amedeo has given his consent to it.
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09-26-2008, 10:59 AM
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Does someone know if Olga is Ortodox or if She converted to Catholicism?
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