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Old 12-15-2017, 05:24 PM
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Apparently the move of the remains of Queen Elena has been organized by Princess Maria Gabriella alone, while the other descendants of the Queen wasn't aware of it.
Prince Serge of Yugoslavia has stated to Corriere della Sera that neither he, his mother Princess Maria Pia of Savoy, his uncle Vittorio Emanuele and his cousin Emanuele Filiberto knew of the plan to move Queen Elena's remains to Vicoforte; he adds that they all do not agree with it, since they believe that the remains of all the Kings and Queens of Italy should be buried in Rome at the Pantheon, where also King Vittorio Emanuele II, King Umberto I and Queen Margherita are buried.

Casa Savoia, la salma della regina Elena riportata in Italia a Mondovì - Corriere.it
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Finally the Queen is buried in Italy in a Sanctuary built by the Savoy Dynasty. Until now this was not possible. This is a great news and certain reactions could be quite surprising.

The King will be buried in Vicoforte too:

http://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/...rzo-184293798/
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Old 12-16-2017, 10:56 AM
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The Sanctuary of Vicoforte has issued a press release, confirming that King Vittorio Emanuele III's remains will be moved there as well, thouhg it isn't known exactly when it will happen.
The remains of King Vittorio Emanuele III and Queen Elena will be placed in two adjoining niches in the Chapel of San Bernardo, where also Duke Carlo Emanuele I is buried.
http://www.santuariodivicoforte.it/b...o%20stampa.jpg
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Old 12-16-2017, 11:38 AM
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It seems that not all the descendants of the Royal couple are happy about the reburial at Vicoforte. Some wanted only Pantheon in Rome.
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Old 12-16-2017, 01:00 PM
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Finally after 65 years the Queen is buried in Italy!

I think the Sanctuary of Vicoforte is one of the most beautiful Sanctuary of all Italy, a very spectacular place. I love Pantheon in Rome, but I think Sanctuary of Vicoforte is more beautiful.
I hope in the future also Queen Maria José and King Umberto will be buried it.

I read that some wanted only Pantheon in Rome for the burials of Savoy's Kings and Queens. I disagree, because all italian burial place are a great place for Kings and Queens (Superga, Vicoforte, Sacra di San Michele, etc.).
I hope Queen Elena remains in Vicoforte. I want to see her tomb and dedicate a prayer to her in Vicoforte.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:03 AM
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The remains of the King left Egypt and will find final rest at Vicoforte too:

http://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/12/17/news/la_salma_di_vittorio_emanuele_iii_arriva_stamattina_in_italia-184365337/
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Old 12-17-2017, 02:20 PM
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Vittorio Emanuele, Marina and Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia, Princess Maria Pia of Bourbon-Parma and Prince Serge of Yugoslavia tomorrow will be present at Vicoforte, to pay hommage to the graves of King Vittorio Emanuele III and Queen Elena.
In their press release the graves are referred ot as "temporary burials".

https://twitter.com/RCasadiSavoia/st...11249765281792
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Probably they still hope to rebury again the remains of the Royal couple at the Pantheon but I really doubt the Italian authorities will agree with that.
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Old 12-17-2017, 06:44 PM
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I agree, most likely their burial at the Pantheon won't be allowed.

Here is an article with a few pictures of the new graves:
Vittorio Emanuele III tumulato a Vicoforte. Il monarca riposerÃ* accanto alla regina Elena - La Stampa
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There are already debates and Pantheon would certainly not be accepted by the authorities and by the public.

Some critics are against the use of a military plane for the remains of the King:

http://www.corriere.it/cronache/17_d...1516e8be.shtml
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The remains of King Vittorio Emanuele and Queen Elena's reburial at the Basilica of Vicoforte in Italy.

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Vittorio Emanuele his son Emanuele Filiberto, his wife Marina Doria and Prince Sergio Of Yugoslavia take part in a private ceremony to pay tribute to Vittorio Emanuele Iand his wife Queen Elena of Montenegro on December 18, 2017 at the Santuario Regina Montis Regalis in Vicoforte, northern Italy.

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To continue to speak about " temporary tombs" won't certainly be appreciated by the Quirinale and by the government:

http://www.lastampa.it/2017/12/19/it...WK/pagina.html
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“The body of King Victor Emmanuel III has returned to Italy from Egypt, 70 years after he died there in exile.

But the royal reburial has brought back difficult memories for many and caused anger, as the BBC's Sofia Bettiza in Rome reports.”

Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-e...mpression=true
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A debate about the Pantheon would even inflame more the spirits.
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Here are some photos of members of the House of Savoy at the Basilica di Vicoforte

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Old 12-28-2017, 06:17 PM
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Solemn Mass for the late King and Kate Queen at Vicoforte today:

http://www.lastampa.it/2017/12/28/edizioni/cuneo/da-tutto-il-nord-italia-per-celebrare-e-ricordare-il-loro-re-py4OHXeaOPP8qUrC6OOOGO/pagina.html
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In Potenza, a petition to remove a road named to Vittorio Emanuele III:

https://napoli.repubblica.it/cronaca...76/?refresh_ce
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King Victor Emmanuel III during his coronation in 1900
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Old 09-21-2018, 06:19 AM
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Actually there was no coronation for the Kings of Italy, just a ceremony in front of the Parliament where they swore loyalty to the Constitution, as it was required by art. 22 of the Albertine Statute.
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