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08-22-2006, 12:19 PM
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yes you are right, I remember it was a crown made of orange-blossems.
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08-23-2006, 06:02 AM
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Does anyone have information on Lapo Elkann? Is it true that he used to work for Henry Kissinger?
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Are you sure that Lapo Elkann belongs to a noble / royal family?
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08-23-2006, 07:12 AM
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Are you sure that Lapo Elkann belongs to a noble / royal family?
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By his grand-mother and his great-grand-mother, he's a descendant of princely families.
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08-24-2006, 05:43 AM
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Thank you for your reply, Danielane. And this princely descendance would be from the mother's or father's side? What princely families are you referring to exactly?
As far as I know, Lapo is currently a member of the Elkann and Agnelli family, none of which is princely neither aristochratic, although their members achieved many accomplishments and are very popular. Some members of those families actually married some aristochrats in the past, but no title has been passed on to the Elkann and Agnelli families via this way, as far as I know. I am very interested in this new angle of which I am unaware.
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08-28-2006, 10:03 PM
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The Bachelor Rome-Prince Lorenzo Borghese
...interesting...
The Bachelor Rome
WILL A REAL PRINCE FIND HIS PRINCESS ON A NEW SEASON OF ABC'S THE BACHELOR?
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Prince Lorenzo Borghese, a handsome 34-year-old cosmetics entrepreneur, has been selected to star in the ninth edition of The Bachelor, when ABC's popular romance reality series returns to the network this fall. Once more the series will be set outside the United States in one of the most glamorous, romantic capitals of the world - Rome!.........more on http://abc.go.com/primetime/schedule.../bachelor.html
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08-28-2006, 10:06 PM
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Oddly enough I just saw the promos for this new edition while watching ABC. It looks slightly interesting & I might check it out...not sure though
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08-28-2006, 10:11 PM
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LOL. I just saw it too...then I posted... 
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09-04-2006, 08:50 AM
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John Elkan, Lavinia Borromeo and Lapo Elkan take part to a ceremony marking the second anniversary of the death Fiat chairman Gianni Agnelli, in central Turin
John Elkan (R), his wife Lavinia Borromeo and his brother Lapo Elkan (L) take part to a ceremony marking the second anniversary of the death of their uncle, Fiat chairman Gianni Agnelli, in central Turin January 24, 2005. Fiat will not exercise an option to sell its car unit to General Motors for at least another nine days, to give the groups more time to settle a spat over its validity, the Italian company said Monday (corbis)
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Hey, Tosca, thanks for the pic and news. I just want to point for anyone who might not know it or be confused, the uncle referenced here was actually Umberto, not Gianni. Gianni was not their uncle.
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09-04-2006, 08:55 AM
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Are you sure that Lapo Elkann belongs to a noble / royal family?
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Info. about the Elkann/Agnelli ancestry is here:
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/royal17c.htm
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09-04-2006, 09:24 AM
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Hey, Tosca, thanks for the pic and news. I just want to point for anyone who might not know it or be confused, the uncle referenced here was actually Umberto, not Gianni. Gianni was not their uncle.
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Late Senator Gianni Agnelli was Umberto's eldest brother ( if I''m not mistaken there were 5 or 6 of them), so Gianni, who was also the President of Italy's biggest car industry, was John Philipp Elkann's grandfather. John is the son of Margherita, Gianni's daughter, and of French writer Alain Elkann.
Margherita and Alain have two other children: Lapo and Ginevra.
After divorcing Alain, Margherita married a Russian aristocrat, whom she has another five children with.
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09-04-2006, 09:38 AM
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By his grand-mother and his great-grand-mother, he's a descendant of princely families.
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John Philipp Elkann and his siblings Lapo and Ginevra are descendant of a Neapolitan princely family named Caracciolo. Their grand-mother is Donna (Lady) Marella Caracciolo, whilst their aunt Donna Allegra Caracciolo, the widow of Umberto, Gianni's brother, is Marella's cousin. A bit confusing, isn't it?
JP's great-great grand-father, whose name was also Giovanni (Gianni is a pet name for it), received a title of nobility by the then King, but he always wanted to be called Senator. His grand-son Gianni also didn't used it, and preferred to be called "lawyer", while Umberto was usually referred as the "engineer". None of them has ever used noble titles.
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09-10-2006, 03:43 AM
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is it possible for someone to post the Vanity Fair article of Lapo Elkann. i just discoverd who he is and now i'm finding myself wanting to know as much as i can about him and his family.
who is he dating? everytime i see him he is with a new beautiful girl.
i read a few years ago, i think in VF about john elkan and lavinia when they were young and just stared dating. i'm happy to see they got married. i remember the article mentioned something about Gianni's son whom was said to be a drunk and a drug addict and commited suicide by jumping off the side of a hill. does anyone know more about this guy?
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09-10-2006, 06:54 PM
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- Here yuo are links about Caracciolo family branches
http://www.sardimpex.com/anteprime/a...caracciolo.htm
K2. Donna Marella (* Firenze 4-5-1927) = Stoffen 19-11-1953 Giovanni Agnelli, Senatore della Repubblica Italiana (* Torino 12-3-1921 + ivi 24-1-2003).
K4. Donna Allegra (* castello di Grazzano Visconti 28-6-1945) = 1974 Umberto Agnelli (* Torino 1-11-1934 + Milano 27-5-2004).
- They from Caracciolo: Principi di Castagneto:
http://www.sardimpex.com/caracciolo/...castagneto.htm
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09-11-2006, 10:50 AM
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Donna Allegra Caracciolo with her late husband Umberto Agnelli and their daughter Anna. Marella has one son of her husband as well. He's named Andrea.
Umberto had been previously married to Antonella Bechi Piaggio, the daughter of the "VESPA" manufacturer. For this reason they were called a "six wheeled" family. Umberto and Antonella had one son: Giovanni III Alberto, who was bound to inherit the leadership of the family and of the FIAT industry. He was married to American socialite Avery Howe, and had a daughter Virginia Asia. He died of cancer at age 33. (CHI)
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09-11-2006, 11:09 AM
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This is the first time I have posted but I really enjoy reading all the articles and getting all the latest images.
I notice on this thread a photo of Prince Ruspoli which says he died, actually the photo is of Sfoza Ruspoli, brother of Dado Ruspoli and it was Dado who died in January 2005.
I know the Ruspoli family from time I spent as the nanny for Prince & princess Ruspoli and their daughter Giacinta. It was a long time ago (13 years) but it was the most amazing experience. I am not very technical and I dont have a scanner to scan some of my photos, but over time I hope to share some of my experiences with other members.
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Prince Sforza Ruspoli, Princess Maria Pia, former actress and their daughter Giacinta (CHI)
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09-13-2006, 12:06 PM
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From left to right: Lapo Elkann, Juventus president Cobolli Gigli, and Jaki (John Philip) Elkann before watching last Sunday's Juve match in Rimini (olycom)
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09-13-2006, 05:37 PM
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Hi Louisgarrel,
The Vanity Fair article on Lapo Elkann is scanned on this weblog called sammie effluvia . The address is:
http://sammie.323.blogspot.com/2006/...uary-2006.html
The site takes awhile to load but it should still be there. If it doesn't work just go to google search and type in: vanity fair february 2006 lapo elkann.
It should come up.
By the way, Lapo is indeed a very intriguing person! Does anyone here know more about him?
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09-14-2006, 10:22 AM
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By the way, Lapo is indeed a very intriguing person! Does anyone here know more about him?
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You can find infos on Lapo by clicking on the likn below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapo_Agnelli
However, he's no longer engaged to Martina Stella since the night he was found in the company of three transexuals having overdosed on cocaine.
These days he's being rumored to be romantically involved with showgirl/actress Elisabetta Canalis, Bobo Vieri's ex-girlfriend. (libero)
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09-15-2006, 11:37 AM
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Lapo Elkann signing autographs during friendly Juventus-Piacenza last month (grazianeri)
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09-15-2006, 04:05 PM
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Hi Louisgarrel,
The Vanity Fair article on Lapo Elkann is scanned on this weblog called sammie effluvia . The address is:
http://sammie.323.blogspot.com/2006/...uary-2006.html
The site takes awhile to load but it should still be there. If it doesn't work just go to google search and type in: vanity fair february 2006 lapo elkann.
It should come up.
By the way, Lapo is indeed a very intriguing person! Does anyone here know more about him? |
thanks you so much candice, i can't wait to start reading it :)
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