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07-09-2015, 02:23 AM
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The last King of Italy it was Umberto. His son and especially his grandson Emanuele-Filiberto is the righteous heir to the throne. I don't see the reason for any dialogue with the Aimone.
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Aimone is the Number Three in the Savoia line of succession, after Emanuele Filiberto and his father Amedeo. The same Aimone is the Number Two in the Savoia-Aosta line of succession, after his father Amedeo.
Aimone is the only one who has sons. As things are as now, the future of the Italian Royal House lies with Aimone and his young sons. Aimone and Emanuele Filiberto also seem the only ones to be on normal speaking terms, unlike their respective fathers. It is never unwise to invest in mutual understanding and be in agreement about the future of the House.
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07-09-2015, 02:36 AM
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Emanuele-Filiberto di Savoia has no dialogue at all with HRH Hereditary Prince Aimone of Savoy.
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No,the two families have not been on speaking terms for long indeed...Especially not since E-F's father punched Aimones dad on the nose in Madrid,IIRC at Felipe and Letizia's wedding....Making J-C exclaim;" Nunca Mas!!"
They don't really need to talk to eachother...E-F is busy doing his own thing with a sense for reality,the other side has a more "we are the real RF " approach.Not that they are recognised as such though...But when one has nothing else or senseble to do,one can always claim old matters from a (not so-) far past and have hopes,and meanwhile,while hoping,visit botox clinics (Aimone's stepmom..),attend premieres and funerals and any other occasion that saves one from total oblivion..  But EF is an OK guy!!
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07-09-2015, 03:30 AM
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[...] But when one has nothing else or senseble to do [...]
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Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta is the CEO of Pirelli Russia & The Nordic Countries. He is also vice-president of GIM-Unimpresa, the Russian branch of Confindustria (the Italian Chamber of Commerce). Before that he has had a career at JP Morgan & Co, worked at Italian grand industries as Rinascente (the biggest Italian retail chain with upmarket luxury warehouses), Indesit (the biggest Italian electronics manufacturer) and Tripcovich (a big Italian shipping company which also owns ports, cargo-handling and inland transport firms).
With all respect, that does not sound as someone whom "has nothing else or sensible to do". I think that Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta is actually one of the hardest working royals around and deseverve respect and admiration for that. Emanuele Filiberto is the one whom has little else to do than walking red carpets, the one première after the other.
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07-09-2015, 06:06 AM
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No,the two families have not been on speaking terms for long indeed...Especially not since E-F's father punched Aimones dad on the nose in Madrid,IIRC at Felipe and Letizia's wedding....Making J-C exclaim;" Nunca Mas!!"
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It was at the wedding! He got punched so hard he fell into the arms of Queen Anne-Marie of Greece.
Must've been some party since Ernst-August of Hannover got so drunk he couldn't attend the wedding ceremony the day after.
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07-09-2015, 06:33 AM
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Thank for this JR76. Must be a very funny party.
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07-10-2015, 02:34 AM
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Yesteday, July 9, Clotilde attended the Montblanc Boheme Event Paris - Cocktail and Dinner.
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08-27-2015, 03:55 PM
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Princess Clotilde attended the Locarno Film Festival opening night during the 68th Locarno Film Festival in Switzerland on August 5.
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09-03-2015, 02:14 AM
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The 72th Venice Film Festival in Italy started yesterday, September 2nd, and Clotilde was among the guests:
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09-04-2015, 03:32 AM
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Yesterday, September 3, Clotilde was seen sighting in Venice and attending the Miu Miu Women's Tales Dinner (also as part of the film festival):
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09-25-2015, 02:44 AM
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Clotilde attended the Ballet National de Paris Opening Season Gala at the Opera Garnier in Paris yesterday, September 24:
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09-30-2015, 02:24 AM
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Prince Emanuele Filiberto attended the Philipp Plein show during the Milan Fashion Week Spring/Summer 2016 on September 23. The lady with him is Courtney Love:
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09-30-2015, 10:27 AM
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 I have an innocent question or inquiry after this photos (I hope not to misunderstand Italian posters here). If and when the monarchy in Italy return this man supposed to be the king; (Although I think that neither he believes)
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09-30-2015, 11:22 AM
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As it is explained far and wide in this thread, the succession is disputed.
On a side are those who point out that the marriage of Emanuele Filiberto's parents in 1970 violated the laws of the House of Savoy and therefore both Vittorio Emanuele and his descendants (included Emanuele Filiberto) are excluded from the succession.
On the other side are those who claim that, since King Umberto II never said officially anything the marriage of his son, Vittorio Emanuele never lost his succession rights and therefore, in case of a restoration, he would become the King and, after him, his son Emanuele Filiberto.
But this dispute has, concretely, more to do with the Headship of the Royal House and the management of the dynastic orders rather than with the very remote chance of a restoration.
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09-30-2015, 11:26 AM
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So right now there is no one Headship of the Royal House?
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09-30-2015, 11:41 AM
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On the contrary, there are currently two claimants to the Headship of the House of Savoy: Vittorio Emanuele on a side and his cousin Prince Amedeo, Duke of Aosta, on the other side.
Anyway, most likely the problem will be solved by the passing of the time: when Vittorio Emanuele and Emanuele Filiberto will die, the only male members of the House of Savoy will be the descendants of Prince Amedeo and the succession will in any case pass to the Aosta branch (since the succession in the House of Savoy is ruled by the Salic law).
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09-30-2015, 01:05 PM
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Unless Prince Vittorio Emanuele or Prince Emanuele Filiberto do a 'michaelist coup' by unilaterally changing the succession à la King Michael of Romania, the headship of the House will indeed finally end in the Savoia-Aosta branch of the Italian royal family.
Line of succession, assuming that Prince Vittorio Emanuele indeed is the head of the House:
1 Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia
1972, son of Prince Vittorio Emanuele di Savoia
and of Marina Doria Ricolfi
- Princess Vittoria di Savoia
2003, daughter of Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia
and of Clotilde Courau
- Princess Luisa di Savoia
2006, daughter of Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia
and of Clotilde Courau
2 Prince Amedeo di Savoia-Aosta, 5th Duke of Aosta
1943, son of Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta, 4th Duke of Aosta
and of Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark
- Princess Bianca di Savoia-Aosta, Countess Arrivabene Valenti Gonzaga
1966, daughter of Prince Amedeo di Savoia-Aosta, 5th Duke of Aosta
and of Princess Claude d'Orléans, Princess of France
3 Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta
1967, son of Prince Amedeo di Savoia-Aosta, 5th Duke of Aosta
and of Princess Claude d'Orléans, Princess of France
4 Prince Umberto di Savoia-Aosta
2009, son of Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta
and of Princess Olga of Greece
5 Prince Amedeo di Savoia-Aosta
2011, son of Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta
and of Princess Olga of Greece
- Princess Isabella di Savoia-Aosta
2012, daughter of Prince Aimone di Savoia-Aosta
and of Princess Olga of Greece
- Princess Mafalda di Savoia-Aosta, Baroness Lombardo di San Chirico formerly Princess Ruffo di Calabria-Santapau
1969, daughter of Prince Amedeo di Savoia-Aosta, 5th Duke of Aosta
and of Princess Claude d'Orléans, Princess of France
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10-15-2015, 12:54 PM
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As every year Clotilde enjoys the Film Festival in Cannes, France. Today, May 13, she attended the opening ceremony and the premiere of "La Tete Haute" ("Standing Tall").
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During Cannes festival p.ss Clotilde found time for posing for italian edition of "Grazia " magazine.
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10-20-2015, 07:05 AM
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On October 17 Prince Emanuele attended the charity gala "Africa on the Rock" organized by L'AMREF Flying Doctors and the Princess Charlene of Monaco Foundation in Monaco:
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10-27-2015, 05:14 PM
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Clotilde attended the screening of the film "L'ombre des femmes" at the 13th Morelia Film Festival in Morelia, Mexico yesterday, October 26:
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