HRH Duke Carlos Hugo (1930-2010) and the Royal House of Bourbon-Parma - Page 8

lucien · #**141** 08-17-2010, 12:37 PM

Due to the critical health of HRH The Duke of Parma,his son Carlos and Princess Anne Marie have decided
to postpone the religious service which was scheduled for august 28th in Brussels.

Please include Carlos Hugo Duke of Parma in your thoughts and prayers.

Warren · #**142** 08-22-2010, 02:33 AM

With the death of HRH Duke Carlos Hugo the Headship of the Royal House of Bourbon-Parma falls to his eldest son, HRH Duke Carlos Xavier (Javier).

A thread for the new Duke of Parma and Piacenza can be found here.

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THECLERK · #**143** 09-16-2010, 08:25 AM

Now that the Duke reposes peacefully it may be possible to talk about his illegitimate child.

If this young man has the same qualities of sympathy, warmth and intelligence than his Father he must be somebody quite interesting.

Does someone know something about him?

**MAfan** · #**144** 09-16-2010, 08:29 AM

I guess you're referring to Duke Carlos Hugo; forgive me, but what illegitimate child?
Personally I've never heard anything about illegitimate child(ren) of the late Duke.

THECLERK · #**145** 09-16-2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marengo

Why is it tasteless to ask if the dukes illegitemate son will attend the funeral? As far as I read it seems the duke actually took care of him and he was part of the duke's life. I don't see the need why it should be swept under the carpet.

I just know that he exists. That is the reason why I ask about him.

**MAfan** · #**146** 09-16-2010, 08:55 AM

If I correctly remember, the child Marengo was referring to is not Carlos Hugo's illegitimate son, but Carlos Hugo's grandson, the illegitimate son of Duke Carlos Xavier.

THECLERK · #**147** 09-16-2010, 09:06 AM

No I do not think so.

Marengo' s reply was related to Lucien's previous post concerning my question.

I am speaking of the child to whom Princess Margarita referred in her so much controversed interview somme years ago.

It si not Carlos Klynstra, who although not legitimate is well known.

**MAfan** · #**148** 09-16-2010, 09:14 AM

Ok, in this case my apologies, I had mistaken person (there are too many Carlos in that family for my taste...)
So, what about this son? What did Margarita sey about him?

THECLERK · #**149** 09-16-2010, 10:39 AM

Some posts I read previously:

From a member of another Board ( 4 september 2010)

" During the so-called 'Margarita-gate' (the conflict of Princess Margarita and her former spouse Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn with the Orange-Nassaus and the De Bourbon de Parmes) she accused the Queen's Treasurer for transferring US $ 100.000.-- towards her father without her permission. (The Treasurer declared that he has sought permission by telephone and got it from Carlos Javier, Jaime, Carolina ánd Margarita).

This anecdote learned the public that the late Duke of Parma was financially supported, with big amounts, by his children. The new Duke of Parma and his siblings can rely on a capital which their mother Princess Irene inherited and was placed in the Lys Fund (named after the Bourbon Fleur-de-Lys)."

From Marengo ( 12 december 2007 , on this Forum)

"Carlos Hugo himself has lived in NYC., with a lady who used to be the maid of him and Princess Irene when the family lived in paris in the 70-ties.He has a son with this lady (Princess Margarita was once complaining about the money her father asked for with his children, to which Princess Maria Carolina was overheard responding 'you know bloody well for who that money is', apparently for their illegitemate half brother (I forgot the source for this btw)."

From Régina ( 13 december 2007, on this Forum)

"I remember when Margarita caused a scandal revealing "secrets" about the Dutch Royal Family. She attacked on all fronts.
About her own father she said in an interview: "He has double moral standards. He disagrees with my husband but he himself has a son by his former Dominican housekeeper: my dark skinned half-brother Zavier."

maria-olivia · #**150** 09-16-2010, 10:51 AM

What Margarita said in the past it was under the influence of his first husband a strange man , I don't trust.
I was deeply impressed by the sorrow of ALL the late Duke's children.
They were some difficult years for Margarita in the past and her relationship with her father suffers about that.
THECLERCK , why do you come back with old stories ??
I wonder if Lucien will give any opinion about this thread.

THECLERK · #**151** 09-16-2010, 11:51 AM

I am not coming back with " old stories". I posted a thead and I believe that the forum is a place to discuss.

As for Lucien I am sure he will give his opinion, which will be very harsh to me.

May I remind that many Kings or Royals had illegitimate children, from Henri IV to.... Prince Bernhard of Netherlands or to ....the present King of Belgians

Many of these persons were extremely honorable.

amedea · #**152** 09-17-2010, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THECLERK

I am not coming back with " old stories". I posted a thead and I believe that the forum is a place to discuss.

I agree with you, this story is worthy some discussion. Actually thanks for strarting this thread because I had never heard about this story.
On the forum, there are threads whit hundrends of posts for simple press speculation, here we have a statement by princess Margarita.

Warren · #**153** 09-17-2010, 12:16 PM

I've merged the new "Late Duke of Parma's children" thread into the thread for Duke Carlos Hugo as the obvious intent and focus of the thread is directed at the late Duke's out of wedlock son rather than "his children".

It is also the case that once the existence of the child has been (re)established, there will be little of substance to add as mother and child lead private lives.

Warren
Italian Forum moderator

**Marengo** · #**154** 10-05-2010, 05:56 AM

On October 1st and 2nd the children of the late duke visited Parma and Piacenza. The ball (that was planend) was cancelled due to mourning for the late Duke, and instead they attended a musical performance.

I can't find any pictures, maybe an Italian poster will be able to get more info.

Borbone Parma - Eventi 2010

**Marengo** · #**155** 10-05-2010, 10:42 AM

Prince Charles-Henri Lobkovicz opened a gallery in France for contemporary art. Article, interview & picture: Charles-Henri de Lobkowicz, un prince contemporain | Ici et Ailleurs, personnalités libanaises | L'Orient-Le Jour

The prince is a son of Princess Marie Françoise of Bourbon-Parma and a cousin of the present duke of Parma.

maria-olivia · #**156** 10-05-2010, 12:50 PM

Princess Françoise had 3 sons , he is the only one still living. Is he married ?

Benjamin · #**157** 10-05-2010, 01:04 PM

Charles-Henri de Lobkowicz is not married.

Cory · #**158** 10-25-2011, 04:59 PM

HRH Prince Andrè de Bourbon-Parma died at 83.He was Queen Ana of Romania's brother:

Noblesse & Royautés » Décès du prince André de Bourbon-Parme

**iceflower** · #**159** 08-13-2013, 06:44 AM

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Princess Tania of Bourbon-Parma has given an interview for the current issue of the Hong Kong Tatler:

** Pic ** asiatatler.com: Interview: Princesse Tania de Bourbon Parme **

maria-olivia · #**160** 08-13-2013, 07:01 AM

Did she marry first Gilbert Becaud's son ?