Tsar's Murder: Court Cases

[Anne83]

There are many unknown facts, Nascarlucy I'm currently writting about all these You'll soon find out that the last Tsar's biggest mistake was his marriage to Alix

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by Anne83

There are many unknown facts, Nascarlucy I'm currently writting about all these You'll soon find out that the last Tsar's biggest mistake was his marriage to Alix

With hindsight, that's sort of a given.

[kell]

Interfax-Religion
Romanov family wants new probe into Nicholas II killing


Moscow, September 20, Interfax - The Romanov family is demanding a new criminal case to investigate the killing of Russia's last Tsar and his family.

"There needs to be a new criminal case and a new investigator," Alexander Zakatov, director of the Romanov family chancellery, told Interfax on Monday.

"There is a need to make a final decision on who the people whose remains were found in Yekaterinburg were and who is buried in the St. Petersburg Peter and Paul Cathedral. The state, church, and the Romanov family need to reach a single opinion. Russian society should have no doubts about the remains

[Warren]

Members may be wondering what happened to the posts asking the question "Who really killed the Tsar?"
As the given answer was "Jewish bankers", the posts have been removed and the poster will not be posting here again.

Warren
TRF Administrator

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by Warren

Members may be wondering what happened to the posts asking the question "Who really killed the Tsar?"
As the given answer was "Jewish bankers", the posts have been removed and the poster will not be posting here again.

Warren
TRF Administrator

Thank you Warren for the update. I tried to be sarcastic referring to him as a man of mystery; I did not realize he would also be bigoted. Oh well, at least there was some brief entertaining discussion which he generated. Sad that some people believe such things in this day and age.

[Russophile]

Oh yay. . blame it on the Jews. Sheesh.

[COUNTESS]

Yes, Russo, the usual pile of crap. Hopefully, we are better than that nonsense. Thank you, Warren, for seeing this awful stuff.

[kell]

AFP: No proof Lenin ordered last tsar's murder: probe
MOSCOW — A long-running probe into the murders of the last Russian Tsar Nicholas II and his family has closed after failing to find evidence that Lenin ordered the killings, the chief investigator said Monday.
Historians and archivists have found no evidence that the Bolshevik leader or regional chief Yakov Sverdlov gave permission for the family to be shot in 1918, Vladimir Solovyov, Russia's chief investigator, told the Izvestia daily.
"The top experts in this subject took part in the investigation, historians and archivists. And I can say with full confid Russian court closes probe into last Tsar's murder http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=8099 and http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=8099 and http://en.rian.ru/russia/20110117/162178817.html

[Vasillisos Markos]

How convenient for the Russian Government to find a no bill as to its involvement in the murder of the Royal Family. It is clear to me, after the executioners showed forethought and planning, that an order to assassinate came from on high. If not from Lenin, then from someone high in the hierarchy.

[AGRBear]

Lenin had every intention of executing Nicholas II and his family. Time and time again he's told us that this was his desire. Since, he wasn't a stupid politician, he knew how their execution would look to the world, so, he personally sent Jacob Yurovsky to the Urals where he became the head of the Ural CHEKA, the forerunner of the GPU and the KGB. Yurovsky was in Moscow, again, before he returned to the Ural and entered the House of Special Purpose in early July of 1918. Yurovsky didn't need a telegram to know why he was sent to Ekaterinburg. And, like a good comrade, Yurovsky carried out Lenin's wishes.

My goodness. This wasn't the first time someone in the Ural had been killed under the orders of Yurovsky.

This may have been the first time, however, that Yurovsky took part in an actual killing.

Again, this demand by Lenin, was another excellent move. Yurovsky was forever the person who's gun was fired at Nicholas II....

It appears that the killing of Nicholas II and his family weighed heavily on Yurovsky's shoulders.

Even the fact that Yurovsky family was Jewish was to be one of his many mill stones hung around his neck. Even though, Yurovsky, while living in Germany, had converted to Martin Luther's Christian church.

Yurovsky was NOT a master of hate as Lenin was. And, hot on Lenin's heels was Stalin.

Stalin's KGB tried to find everything that there was left to find, to erase the connection between Moscow and Ekaterinburg. But, as often happens in a major crime, some things just couldn't be avoided.

The members of my family who survived the Revolutions had nothing good to say about Lenin or Stalin....

I have spent many many hours talking to those who escaped Russia between 1917 and the early 1940s.

So, you can, now, understand why I cannot accept Putin's Boys trying to wash away the sins of Lenin and Stalin and all those who followed....

AGRBear

[kell]

everyone does relize they just said since theres no documantry evidance they cant do anything but know it had to be lennin because he didnt do anything agasint the preptors it means they know he did but due to soo much time passing theres lack of evidance and cant do anything and the only document to exisit is from leon trotsky s diary which is the only one and doesnt implicate anyone but the lead exuctoner

[Russophile]

Bear, are those interviews you had with your family all written down and might we have them published at some future date?

[Hereditary Thane]

Conjecture and partisanships are the scourge of history.

[Benjamin]

Romanovs believe Lenin, Sverdlov involved in Nicholas II execution
21 January 2011

The descendents of the Romanov dynasty do not believe the conclusions made by the Russian Investigative Committee about there being no evidence that Russia's last Emperor Nicholas II and his family were executed on the orders of Soviet leaders Vladimir Lenin and Yakov Sverdlov

"We believe that there is a whole host of evidence," Director of Chancellery of the House of Romanov Alexander Zakatov told Interfax on Thursday.

"The memoirs of Lev Trotsky and several other Bolsheviks contain evidence that the decision to execute the royal family was made by Sverdlov and Lenin," he said...

Full article: Interfax
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Anger as Russia closes the case of the murdered Tsar
18 January 2011

The Romanov dynasty met its unhappy end almost a century ago in a bunker in Yekaterinburg – but descendants of the last Tsar hope they can still exercise some political influence.

On Monday Russia’s investigative committee announced that it was closing the case on the murder of the royal family, who were shot in the Ural city amid fears it would fall to the Whites as the Civil War raged in 1918.

For many the news merited little more than a shrug: the fall of the Tsar feels like ancient history, and Russia’s cops have rather more pressing contemporary killings to investigate.

But the scions of the Romanov family are not convinced and have demanded the files be reopened.

Full article: The Moscow News

[COUNTESS]

Oh, they should get a life. That was 1918. They were murdered. No one responsible is alive, probably. The scions might just go out and try to do something worthwhile, instead of hoping that the verdict will change.

[PrincessKaimi]

Perhaps they all have lives, and this is just a sort of hobby (like participating on a forum). Certainly, some people want to know as much as possible about the past, it's just in their nature.

[kell]

Interfax-Religion Interfax-Religion
House of Romanov doubts identity of "Yekaterinburg remains"


Moscow, March 9, Interfax - The House of Romanov said the royal remains, found outside Yekaterinburg and buried in the Peter and Paul Cathedral in St. Petersburg, may have been other than those of the last Russian tsar Nicholas II and his family members.

"Alas, this is not ruled out," House of Romanov spokesman Alexander Zakatov told Interfax on Wednesday.

The priests, who attended the burial of the "Yekaterinburg remains" on July 17, 1998 did not mention any of the Romanov family by name, he said.

"By all accounts, those were victims of terror tortured to death, and no one is saying their ashes must be disturbed again, even if it has been proven that these remains are not those of the Romanov family. What is done is done and let them rest in peace. But the truth must
Lenin should not trample on the Orthodox sanctity, the House of Romanov believes




Moscow, March 5, Interfax - Head of Russia's Romanov Imperial House Maria Vladimirovna favoured the idea to rebuild the memorial chapel to commemorate the 300th anniversary of the House of Romanov in Kostroma.

"I think the reconstruction of the memorial chapel will put the historical record straight and put an end to violations of Christians' religious feelings," the Great Duchess says in an answer to the letter from architect Yevgeny Yefremov.

[kell]

Interfax-Religion
House of Romanov denied copy of ruling to close Nicholas II murder case


Moscow, April 7, Interfax - The House of Romanov stated that the Russian Investigative Committee (SKR) has refused to provide a copy of the ruling closing the criminal case over the execution of Emperor Nicholas II and his family.

The SKR official refusal was received on Wednesday, House of Romanov lawyer German Lukyanov told Interfax.

"The Investigative Committee explained its decision by the fact that Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna is neither a party in the criminal proceedings, nor a person whose interests would be affected by such procedural decision, so a copy of the ruling cannot be issued under the Russian criminal procedural laws," Lukyanov said.

"Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna believes that this decision is illegal and baseless. It will be duly appealed at a court," the House of Romanov lawyer said.

In February, the head of the House of Romanov filed a written request with the SKR and the Prosecutor General's Office, asking to provide her with a copy of a January 14, 2011 ruling to close the criminal inquiry into the royal family execution.

"Criminal investigator Solovyov (who led the criminal case over the killing of the royal family) sent to Maria Vladimirovna just an extract from this ruling, stating that the investigation

[Benjamin]

Romanov descendant wins Russian case over Tsar death
27 Jul 2011

A Moscow court decided on Wednesday that documents linked to the murder of Russia's last tsar must be handed to a remaining member of his dynasty to help unlock the mystery of Nicholas II's final hours.

Romanov descendants are still trying to understand the circumstances under which the tsar and his family were shot at close range in the middle of the night on July 17, 1918 after Bolsheviks seized power across the fallen empire.

Read it on Global News: Romanov descendant wins Russian case over Tsar death

[Cory]

Grand Duchess Maria wins russian case over Tsar's murder:

Royal Russia News: Grand Duchess Maria Wins Russian Case Over Tsar's Death