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04-29-2010, 09:15 AM
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Interfax-Religion and here we go again
Moscow court to hear appeal against closure of Nicholas II murder case in May
Moscow, April 29, Interfax - The Moscow City Court on May 12 will hear an appeal, challenging a court ruling, supporting the decision to close the criminal case related to the murder of the last Russian tsar Nicholas II and his family. The court was to hear the complaint, filed by Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna's defense lawyer, on Wednesday. But the judges argued that they would need time to read the complaint.
Moscow's Basmanny Court on March 19 turned down defense lawyer German Lukyanov's complaint against the decision to close the case of murder of Nicholas II and his family.
On October 1, 2008 the Supreme Court Presidium ruled to rehabilitate Nicholas II and his family members.
But on January 15, 2009, a court ruling was passed to close the criminal case of the Romanov family murder.
The House of Romanov disagreed with the conclusion of the Investigation Department that the royal family had fallen victim to plain criminals, and argued that the tsar and his relatives were killed by the regime.
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05-12-2010, 11:20 AM
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05-12-2010, 09:43 PM
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Well now... Here's a surprise! We all knew this court date was coming... but who knew the court would rule in Maria Vladimirovna's favour? :-)
From Today's Interfax/Religion
12 May 2010, 17:20
Tsar murder case dropped illegally – ruling
Moscow, May 12, Interfax - Moscow City Court has ruled that the criminal case over the murder of the last Russian Emperor Nicholas II and his family was closed illegally.
The court thus granted an appeal from lawyer German Lukyanov, who represents the interests of Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, the disputed head of the Romanov Dynasty, an Interfax correspondent reported.
The court ruled that the case files be sent back to the lower court and ordered a second hearing by a different panel of judges.
On March 19, Moscow's Basmanny Court rejected Lukyanov's complaint by upholding the decision to terminate the criminal case over the killing of Tsar Nicholas, his wife Empress Alexandra, and their five children, in July 1918.
On October 1, 2008, the Russian Supreme Court ruled on the rehabilitation of Nicholas II and his family, however, on January 15, 2009, a court ruling terminated the case over the execution of the royal family.
The House of Romanovs disagreed with the Investigative Committee's claims that the royal family were victims of ordinary criminals and insisted that they were killed by the Soviet Communist regime of that time.
See: Interfax-Religion
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08-26-2010, 02:18 PM
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Tsar?s family murder investigation reopened - RT Top Stories
A Moscow court has ordered the continuation of the prosecution of the killers of the last Russian tsar, Nicholas II, and his family. The case was earlier closed, but the Romanov’s attorney appealed against the decision.
The reason for the appeal is that the Investigative Committee’s decision was motivated by the fact that all those who summarily executed the tsar and his relatives have since died. However, earlier Russia’s Supreme Court ruled that they had been executed on behalf of the state.
The court on Thursday backed the reasoning and ordered the case to be reopened.
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08-26-2010, 05:29 PM
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Hmm, do you wonder if anyone remotely related to the last Imperial family will be able to maintain something similar to a wrongful death law suit if the investigation reveals the royals were executed without any legal authority?
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08-26-2010, 07:27 PM
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08-26-2010, 09:30 PM
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Tsars murder reopened by court
Russian court orders tsar's murder case reopened.
This headline has made the ABC news in Australia. I truly hope for a decent investigation to be done to find what happened. I've read a great deal on this episode and the only person I believe is Voikov who said; " The world will never know what we did with them." But really there should be some conclusive evidence locked away somewhere. What about the mysterious black bag at the Houghton library? Why so much secrecy for 90 years. Why won't Queen Margrethe allow access to the family archives specifically Herluf Zahle's report on the unknown woman pulled from the canal in 1920.
Oh dear I could go on and on. But I will reluctantly climb down from my soapbox  now that I've had a little rant  and take a deep breath and just say I am delighted that they will at least try and investigate what happened. After all we've had to put up with so much misinformation for so long not least from many authors.  Whoops! soap box again.
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08-27-2010, 02:39 AM
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Russian court orders tsar's murder case reopened
A Russian court on Thursday ordered prosecutors to reopen an investigation into the murder of Tsar Nicholas II and his family, despite the fact that the Bolsheviks believed to have shot them in 1918 are long dead. The Russian prosecutor general’s main investigative unit this year said it had formally closed a criminal investigation into the killing of Nicholas II because too much time had elapsed since the crime and because those responsible had died.
But Moscow’s Basmanny Court on Thursday ordered the case reopened, saying a Supreme Court ruling blaming the state for the killings made the deaths of the actual gunmen irrelevant, a lawyer for the tsar’s descendants and local news agencies said.
“This is an important step in our quest for the truth,” said German Lukyanov, the lawyer representing Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, a descendant of the Romanov dynasty who styles herself as the heir to the imperial throne. “The Russian people have the right to know what happened.”
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08-27-2010, 09:46 AM
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Investigation ordered re-opened
Russian court orders Tsar’s murder case reopened
Reuters August 26, 2010 – 4:07 pm
By Conor Humphries
MOSCOW — A Russian court on Thursday ordered prosecutors to reopen an investigation into the murder of Tsar Nicholas II and his family, despite the fact that the Bolsheviks believed to have shot them in 1918 are long dead.
The Russian prosecutor general’s main investigative unit this year said it had formally closed a criminal investigation into the killing of Nicholas II because too much time had elapsed since the crime and because those responsible had died.
But Moscow’s Basmanny Court on Thursday ordered the case reopened, saying a Supreme Court ruling blaming the state for the killings made the deaths of the actual gunmen irrelevant, a lawyer for the tsar’s descendants and local news agencies said.
“This is an important step in our quest for the truth,” said German Lukyanov, the lawyer representing Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, a descendant of the Romanov dynasty who styles herself as the heir to the imperial throne.
“The Russian people have the right to know what happened.”
Nicholas II, his wife and five children were killed by a revolutionary firing squad on the night of July 16-17, 1918 in the cellar of a merchant’s house in Yekaterinburg, a city 1,450 km (900 miles) east of Moscow.
They were recognised by Russia’s Supreme Court as victims of Bolshevik repression in 2008.
The Romanovs say the investigation is needed to resolve a host of questions about the killings.
Remains believed to belong to the tsar and his family were exhumed in 1991 and reburied in 1998 in the imperial crypt of the St Peter and Paul Cathedral in St Petersburg.
The Russian Orthodox Church says it is still unclear whether the remains are in fact those of the last tsar and his family, a view supported by many members of the Romanov family.
The Romanov dynasty ruled Russia for 300 years until the abdication of Nicholas II in 1917, which wa followed by the Bolshevik Revolution, civil war and 70 years of Communist rule.
A spokeswoman for the prosecutor general’s office declined to say whether it would contest the ruling.
See: Russian court orders tsar
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08-27-2010, 10:43 AM
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Being that this happened nearly 100 years ago, it will be interesting if they find anything new.
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08-27-2010, 11:26 AM
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This investigation is unlikely to reveal nothing new. The key participants and possible witnesses passed away. Additionally I do not think that Russian people are too anxious "to know what happened". One might think that it's no use beating the air.
The investigation seems to be the crusade for Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and her son.
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08-27-2010, 02:24 PM
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Being that this happened nearly 100 years ago, it will be interesting if they find anything new.
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I'd bet a good bottle of Merlot they will. With all the obfusication and outright lies the execution squad gave people of the massacre there is bound to be something else there.
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08-27-2010, 02:34 PM
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08-27-2010, 04:59 PM
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That's my point -- if there are any relatives who could maintain a suit against the government or individuals involved in the murders, who might they be, if any? I don't know the laws of Russia and there likely will not be anything which will come of this investigation unless it is to show that the perpetrators acted with or without government sanction.
But even without knowing the laws of Russia, surely no government can claim the children or servants were legally executed. This does not mean I believe Nicholas and Alexandra deserved death but it is without question that the others were innocent of any blame and thus were murdered.
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08-28-2010, 11:36 AM
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Tsar's family murder investigation reopened
26 August 2010
A Moscow court has ordered the continuation of the prosecution of the killers of the last Russian tsar, Nicholas II, and his family. The case was earlier closed, but the Romanov’s attorney appealed against the decision.
The reason for the appeal is that the Investigative Committee’s decision was motivated by the fact that all those who summarily executed the tsar and his relatives have since died. However, earlier Russia’s Supreme Court ruled that they had been executed on behalf of the state.
Full article: RussiaToday
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09-02-2010, 04:26 AM
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We are experiencing living history with the news that the Romanovs should, afterall have a case for political murder of Nicholas II and family. I have always hated the bolsheviks for what they did !!.
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09-02-2010, 01:48 PM
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We are experiencing living history with the news that the Romanovs should, afterall have a case for political murder of Nicholas II and family. I have always hated the bolsheviks for what they did !!.
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Nicky had just as much blood on his hands for not ruling wiser.
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09-02-2010, 10:25 PM
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Yes, Russo, the Soviets were cruel, but the Romanov's had plenty of innocent blood on their hands.
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