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01-24-2009, 01:17 PM
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When are they supposed to be Buried anyone have any idea?
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01-30-2009, 10:15 AM
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Every time I read or hear about them, I feel very sad. I´ve read many books written about them and even though Nicholas was a weak ruler, he certainly was no monster.Much less his family. I think because they had so many warnings about their fate and also because they were such a close-knit family, they ended up accepting it in quite a courageous way.
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01-31-2009, 05:52 AM
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Despite the eagerness to find new conspiracies could members please resist the temptation of posting links to internet blogs and presenting them as ''news".
Those links have been removed.
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03-11-2009, 11:21 AM
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07-17-2009, 01:21 PM
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Remembrance 17 July 1918 
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07-17-2009, 01:23 PM
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It's a Special Day for all people, who loved and respected The Romanovs' family. 
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07-17-2009, 02:16 PM
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Indeed, this is a sad and tragic day in the history of my country.
May the martyrs rest in peace.
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07-17-2009, 03:32 PM
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07-17-2009, 03:45 PM
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Thank you lucien, that was a beautiful honouring video.
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07-17-2009, 04:35 PM
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Yes, its a very special and sad day today.
I found this video about a year ago and I still find it one of the best Remembrence-Videos. May they rest in peace.
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07-19-2009, 07:40 AM
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At last the family can rest in peace and soon together in the fortress. I never thought this would happen in my life time and I am so happy this chapter has come to an end,
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07-19-2009, 11:24 AM
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Thank you very much, Dierna23!!!!!!
This video is fantastic... Some photos from the movie are very rare.
And I have never seen them earlier! 
There was a great family....
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07-19-2009, 02:44 PM
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You're most welcome, Queenofthelight  And I agree, they were a great family - such a precious heir and such beautiful girls
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07-22-2009, 08:01 PM
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And here is Russo the dissenter to break up the love fest 
I don't believe they were a great family, too many things had gotten in the way by then: managing a kingdom such as Russia with all the corruption really tarnished the family image. Though I do believe Nicholas did the best he could to his capabilities. He really was, imo, the wrong ruler at that time in history.
The slaughter of the family, was needless at best, imo. I am happy to see that Russia is rectifying that situation.
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07-24-2009, 09:35 AM
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An Empire Russo,an Empire,not a Kingdom,and yes they were a great and loving family,smothered to love almost.
You can not mix up one with the other as that wasn't tarnished.Poor Nicky should never have been a Ruler at all,wasn't fit,
as he said himself on the day Sasha died.
And on corruption,there are nations claiming to be greater,greater in everything,even in corruption I have heard,only yesterday.
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07-24-2009, 10:10 AM
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"Uncle Nicky - the Tsar - was a simple, kind-hearted man who liked nothing better than to be at home playing with his children, but was unfortunately rather weak and indecisive - a character that fitted unhappily with his position as absolute monarch, Tsar of All the Russias.", Lord Louis Mountbatten.
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07-24-2009, 10:56 AM
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That’s a very truthful and accurate opinion: the last Emperor was a wonderful man in private life, however he was hardly fit to Rule a country the size of Russian Empire. I can’t help but think that he should have abdicated in favour of Grand Duke Mikhail earlier; from what I’ve read about ‘Misha’, he would be much more suitable Ruler in those times of trouble and worries.
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07-24-2009, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
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. . . yes they were a great and loving family,smothered to love almost.
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Smothering is correct. I believe they isolated themselves too much hence the smothering. I also believe they did this to hide Alexis condition.
Either way, it was the wrong choice. It sent the wrong message to the people. Cleopatra had it correct when she ruled: Give the people a spectacle. Catherine the Great had that down pat.
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07-25-2009, 11:31 AM
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The isolation was mostly Alexandra's idea as she was uncomfortable in public being shy and she never got used to the Russian court. It also became indeed a way to hide Alexei's condition, and it was a mistake. Nicholas before he married Alexandra was a more social person, not so isolated but after he married her, and had a family they both isolated themselves. Alexandra believed the peasantry still held them in high esteem anyway, which was not true. Alexandra didn't care as much for the opinion of the Russian nobility whom she looked down on.
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07-25-2009, 11:46 AM
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I don't think Alexandra was that wrong about the peasantry: most, if not all of them did hold the Imperial Family in high esteem.
There were some amusing stories told about peasants who never even knew about Revolution for years after it happened (no joking - Russia is a huge country and without radio and television, it could take a very long time for news to reach the far-away regions) and still had the portrait of the Emperor in their houses.
The people who sought Revolution and ordinary Russian people had very different goals and motives. Most of the common people, especially peasantry, would have never even dream of overthrowing the Emperor or killing the Father-Tsar. If one has a look at the list of the ‘revolutionary leaders’, they will find few representatives of ‘ the people’ (peasantry that constituted the majority of Russians): as a matter of fact, there was a surprisingly insignificant number of Russians, come to that.
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