Tsar Nicholas II (1868-1918) and Empress Alexandra Feodorovna (Alix) (1872-1918)

[M. Payton]

From what I have read the family did not have that kind of possessions with them in captivity, so how could there be 26 boxes of anything and jewels, won't the guards search for those type of things and steal them?

[wyevale]

100 years ago today, the deposed and imprisoned Tsar of all the Russias, Nicholas 11 celebrated his 50th Birthday. It would be his last...

[lucien]

Originally Posted by JR76

Michael of Greece said in a documentary that nuns visiting the Tsar & his family removed jewels & other valuables and his them in the area around Jekaterinburg. Though I'm not sure where he would have that information from.

There were several caches with valuebles,yes.Some are yet to be found,some caches ended up with the Bolsjewiks after a nun told them of its whereabout under treat of torture.

The IF was able & allowed by Kerenski to take many belongings with them to Tobolsk,a train load full..Among them many stones,pearls and jewellery,Much of that ended up in the clothes of the GD's,hence the murderers at Jekaterinenburg had a hard time to shoot the poor girls,the bullets ricochede all the time because of the GD's corsets filled with stones.Every time you see mentioned one of the GD's or the Tsarina say: "We attended to our medicine" she actually means jewellery.

Not all stones were as valueble,some were chrystals...as the murderers found out...and some of the belongings found at their graves in and near the Pig Ravine are on show in a small geological museum near the cathedral build on,or almost on,the spot where the Ipatiev house once stood.

I say almost on because,the Russian Orthodox Church didn't & doesn't see it beneath itself to mislead all as they have the exact spot where the cellar room was right outside the cathedral wall.They build an opulent Imperial Room in a sort of crypt as the exact spot where the Passion Bearers were killed.Wrong.The exact place of that room is exactly just outside the church,compare the floorplan of the Ipatiev House and that of the church and you'll see.Why on earth??The ways of the ROC are incomprehensible or it should be for their own political and ROC agenda only.I criticize the church for ongoing misleading and ask why?

But when at St.Petersburg last week,seeing the Icons of Nicolai II with Alexey,and the beautifull and huge icon of the Imperial Passion Bearers at the Cathedral of Kazan I was very pleased they're recognised and that so many people burned candles and layd flowers.Russia is coming to terms with it's Imperial past,slowly by slowly,bit by bit the awareness grows.

[CyrilVladisla]

Empress Alexandra wrote letters to a close friend.
‘Dearest Mary’: Letters from the last Tsarina – Royal Central

^Blog Real, Thank you for the impressive video. Tsarina Alexandra is elegant as she carries her parasol. The four Grand Duchesses seem so in awe at the spectacular events.

In his haste to be married, Nicholas II had allowed no time for preparation of a place for himself and Alexandra to reside. They moved temporarily into the rooms which Nicholas and his brother George had shared as boys.

In 1896 Nicholas and Alexandra visited Balmoral. Nicholas II disliked Balmoral. He did not like being surrounded by all his wife's extended German family. He disliked being taken out for sport in the freezing wet weather.

[Blog Real]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYEQQZ7sJQw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGaKue..._UeqA8lZis9Hz4

[Curryong]

Nicholas certainly didn't like being taken out shooting whatever the weather, and he was suffering from toothache (he had rotting teeth because of a liking for sweets.)
However, I don't know about 'extended German family'. Edward and Alexandra weren't German (in fact her dislike of Germany was wellknown in the family.) The Duke of Connaught wasn't German, nor were Victoria's other offspring.

[CyrilVladisla]

Originally Posted by Curryong

Nicholas certainly didn't like being taken out shooting whatever the weather, and he was suffering from toothache (he had rotting teeth because of a liking for sweets.)
However, I don't know about 'extended German family'. Edward and Alexandra weren't German (in fact her dislike of Germany was wellknown in the family.) The Duke of Connaught wasn't German, nor were Victoria's other offspring.

I did not know that Nicholas II had a toothache in 1896. Alexandra was of course born in Hesse-Darmstadt. Victoria, The Princess Royal had married Friedrich, Crown Prince of Prussia. Their children were born in Prussia. Would not these grandchildren of Queen Victoria qualify as German?

Nicholas II hated the prospect of war. He agonized as his advisers unanimously agreed that full mobilization was essential if the Russian forces were to be ready for war. He had given his permission for the ukase declaring general mobilization.

In foreign affairs, Tsar Alexander III had left a legacy of thirteen peaceful years. He did not aquaint his heir with even the most basic information concerning Russia's international position. It was not until Nicholas II's accession that he learned the terms of the Franco-Russian alliance.

[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

I did not know that Nicholas II had a toothache in 1896. Alexandra was of course born in Hesse-Darmstadt. Victoria, The Princess Royal had married Friedrich, Crown Prince of Prussia. Their children were born in Prussia. Would not these grandchildren of Queen Victoria qualify as German?

Queen Victoria had multiple German descendants.

[CyrilVladisla]

Tsar Nicholas II Abdication Letter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwUhDLs0aYw

[duchessrachel]

I want to read "King, Kaiser, Tsar: Three Royal Cousins Who Led the World to War". I have read a biography on King George V and plan to read John Rohl's lengthy 3 book biography on Kaiser Wilhelm II. However, since I am not up to paying the $150 for the paperback series quite yet (does anyone know how I could get it cheaper or from a library?), I plan to read about Tsar Nicholar II first. I have been looking at biographies and have found two: The Last of the Tsars: Nicholas II and the Russian Revolution and Tsar Nicholas II: A Life From Beginning to End .
Can someone tell me which of these books presents a more detailed view of his life, or if someone can suggest a different book that is better, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

[LauraS3514]

Originally Posted by duchessrachel

I want to read "King, Kaiser, Tsar: Three Royal Cousins Who Led the World to War". I have read a biography on King George V and plan to read John Rohl's lengthy 3 book biography on Kaiser Wilhelm II. However, since I am not up to paying the $150 for the paperback series quite yet (does anyone know how I could get it cheaper or from a library?), I plan to read about Tsar Nicholar II first. I have been looking at biographies and have found two: The Last of the Tsars: Nicholas II and the Russian Revolution and Tsar Nicholas II: A Life From Beginning to End .
Can someone tell me which of these books presents a more detailed view of his life, or if someone can suggest a different book that is better, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

Try Inter-Library Loan Service. Most local libraries have a link for it on their websites. After you make an account you can "order" a book and have it sent to your local branch from any library that subscribes. I live in California and have received books from Florida, Texas, Massachusetts, Canada, and most recently Missouri.

[duchessrachel]

Originally Posted by LauraS3514

Try Inter-Library Loan Service. Most local libraries have a link for it on their websites. After you make an account you can "order" a book and have it sent to your local branch from any library that subscribes. I live in California and have received books from Florida, Texas, Massachusetts, Canada, and most recently Missouri.

Thank you. I will try that.

[wyevale]

New [and VAST] cathedral planned on the site of the murder of the Imperial Family in Ekaterinburg :

https://russian-faith.com/news/world...wR69o.facebook

[victor1319]

Originally Posted by wyevale

New [and VAST] cathedral planned on the site of the murder of the Imperial Family in Ekaterinburg

A lot of Czars got killed in Russia... This reminds me of this anecdote by Augusto Monterroso:

There was once a black sheep, which got shot. Years later the mourning flock erected a Sculpture to honour the black sheep... - Since then all black sheeps get shot, so, that future generations of white sheep can train sculpturing.

[CyrilVladisla]

When Nicholas II and Alexandra visited Nicky's uncle Edward VII in 1909, they received several deputations. They received a deputation from London, led by the Lord Mayor who gave Their Majesties a magnificent gold coffret. The Tsar had been named as honorary member of the Royal Yacht Club.

[victor1319]

Has this been the visit, which was plagued by anti-czarist resentments in the English population and because of this, the Czar only visited the Isle of Wight and then sailed away?

[CyrilVladisla]

Yes. It had been declared that if Nicholas II set foot on English soil he might be assassinated.

[victor1319]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Yes. It had been declared that if Nicholas II set foot on English soil he might be assassinated.

Thanks! Yep, the Anglo-Saxons and their love for making their democracy a world wide thing... Back then: Russia. Today: Iraq and Afghanistan...

Thank God, there are no reigning royals there left! I like the light and interesting and sometimes funny Royal Forums. No need for assassinations!

[CyrilVladisla]

If Tsar Nicholas II had been assassinated on English soil, then Alexis might have succeeded as Tsar Alexis II. Who would have been the regent? His uncle Grand Duke Michael?

[Alison H]

There'd have been an almighty row because Alexandra would have thought it should be her! But Michael would have been the obvious one, and this would have been before he blotted his copybook by marrying Natalia Brasova.