The Children of Tsar Nicholas II ("OTMAA") - Page 11

AnastasiaEvidence · #**201** 09-24-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Archduchess Zelia

Irina Alexandrovna and Anastasia Nicholaievna I guess? By the way amazing, and to me very rare pictures (;

Yes, that's Irina with Anastasia!

Thanks, Zelia...
Hope you'll enjoy my Tatiana photos!

Olyashka · #**202** 09-25-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Velkoknezna Maria

Aboard Standart
Olga

Ally and Val, Thanks for those pictures! There are some rare to me including this one...I wonder if this was taken on Olga's 16th birthday?

Archduchess Zelia · #**203** 09-25-2009, 04:23 AM

To Olyashka I think it is taken on Olga's 16th birthday, but I am not quite sure, it looks like that! (:
To AnastasiaEvidence Again fantastic pictures. I really like photos of Tatiana with her hair down, that is so much prettier. She is also very pretty in sailor suits! (: So my favorite of your many Tatiana pictures must be the one of Tatiana and the officer on Standart (;

Velkoknezna Maria · #**204** 09-25-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Olyashka

Ally and Val, Thanks for those pictures! There are some rare to me including this one...I wonder if this was taken on Olga's 16th birthday?

According to "ten years aboard the imperial yacht Standart" from where I scanned the picture, it"s "Grand Duchess Tatiana in 1913", which is obviously a mistake. I believe the picture was taken in 1914 before or right after the imperial visit to Rumania. I don´t think it´s her 16th birthday, because it was celebrated at Livadia, not aboard Standart. it could be an occassion of another birthday or a nameday though.

Olyashka · #**205** 09-25-2009, 11:54 PM

I thought it happened on or before her 16th birthday; her dress looks so identical to the one she wore on that special event. Besides that, she also looks more like a 16 year-old here than an 18 year-old. (but it's just my opinion)

Wisteria · #**206** 09-26-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jalmey

You can't help but wonder how much the past would have differed if the family was spared. In my opinion, I doubt we would remember them or be as interested in them as much as we are now since they would be the solely known as being the last imperial family, and not by their deaths. In that sense, Lenin was smart enough to realize it couldn't be a *good* thing to immortalize the family forever in death. Unfortunately, for the Czar and his family, they had to pay the price for the mistakes perpetuated for years and years by their family.

I have a different opinion to yours, they would not have been forgotten, there would have been far more royal-royal marriages than there are now. There were some very beautiful young princesses to marry. Poor Alexei probably wouldn´t have lived that long into adulthood but I believe that at least one or molre of the girls would have become a Queen.

AnastasiaEvidence · #**207** 09-26-2009, 07:02 PM

Here are great photos of Olga mainly as a baby.
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Dierna23 · #**208** 09-26-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisteria

I have a different opinion to yours, they would not have been forgotten, there would have been far more royal-royal marriages than there are now. There were some very beautiful young princesses to marry. Poor Alexei probably wouldn´t have lived that long into adulthood but I believe that at least one or molre of the girls would have become a Queen.

I believe so as well. I read something in the Duke of Windsor's memoirs. I think there would have been a chance that Olga maybe would have married David.

And thanks so much for all the pictures, AnastasiaEvidence!

AnastasiaEvidence · #**209** 09-26-2009, 07:20 PM

Here are a couple of lovely full versions....

AnastasiaEvidence · #**210** 09-26-2009, 07:30 PM

More great photos of Olga,Tatiana and Maria.

Archduchess Zelia · #**211** 09-28-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AnastasiaEvidence

More great photos of Olga,Tatiana and Maria.

I love these pictures. At the first I really like Tatiana's look on the face. And I love how Olga and Tatiana have captured Marie on the second one (:

Olyashka · #**212** 09-29-2009, 12:08 AM

Maria and Olga, 1914.

AnastasiaEvidence · #**213** 09-29-2009, 10:04 AM

I like Olga in that photo, Shamaine. It's beautiful.
Here are more lovely sets of photos from Yale archive.

Enjoy these.

Olyashka · #**214** 09-30-2009, 01:01 AM

Thank you so much for posting those, Val!
I love that one of Maria standing on a rock with Olga and Tatiana and also OTMA in the snow... They look so adorable!

Grace Angel · #**215** 10-03-2009, 08:21 PM

I doubt Olga would have married the future Edward VIII. It was thought about in a official way but never actually seriously planned, and there was nothing between them personally- however, it is quite possible one of OTMA would have become a queen in some country. Dierna23, have you ever read about how Mounbatten wanted to marry Marie N, and how he kept her photo until the day he died? He ended up marrying someone else, but he never forgot his beautiful cousin. Olyashka, thanks for the photo of Maria and Olga 1914 that you posted by itself. I don't believe I had ever seen it. Do you know who is the photo with them? Is that Anna Vyrubova?

Dierna23 · #**216** 10-03-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grace Angel

I doubt Olga would have married the future Edward VIII. It was thought about in a official way but never actually seriously planned, and there was nothing between them personally- however, it is quite possible one of OTMA would have become a queen in some country. Dierna23, have you ever read about how Mounbatten wanted to marry Marie N, and how he kept her photo until the day he died? He ended up marrying someone else, but he never forgot his beautiful cousin. Olyashka, thanks for the photo of Maria and Olga 1914 that you posted by itself. I don't believe I had ever seen it. Do you know who is the photo with them? Is that Anna Vyrubova?

Yes, I know this story, a very touching and quite romantic story IMO. Its such a lovely imagination that Lord Louis remembered her all his life. I have a quote from one of my biographies about Mountbatten:

"Oh, they (OTMA) were lovely and terribly sweet, far more beautiful than their photographs show. I was crackers about Marie, and was determined to marry her. She was absolutely lovely. I keep her photograph on the mantlepiece in my bedroom - always have."

And thats the photograph:

Nathalie Cox · #**217** 10-03-2009, 10:42 PM

Maria! My fav OTMMA girl! that pic is definetely going to my collection! Thanks Dierna!

Grace Angel · #**218** 10-05-2009, 10:44 PM

I think it's possible that Marie would have married Mountbatten had things turned out differently, although had the Revolution happened she would not have brought much or any money into the marriage, and I believe it was neccesary for Mountbatten to have a bride with money, since his own family was not that well off. He married an heiress, Edwina Ashley. Also, had the revolution not happened, Mountbatten, having lost his title of Prince after George V decided to rid the family of German titles, may have been regarded as too low ranking for a Grand Duchess, but then again he was of royal birth.

Dierna23 · #**219** 10-05-2009, 11:47 PM

It's possible but I never read or heard of Maria's feelings and minds about cousin Dickie. So its possible that it was a onesided crush or just a teenage puppy love (but I read as well, that Louis himself seriously intended to marry her after the war). As for the money - Victoria of Battenberg wasn't happy about Edwina's wealthiness when Louis told her that he liked to marry Edwina Ashley. She said: "It never can be a good thing when a woman is so much more rich than the man."

Grace Angel · #**220** 10-06-2009, 12:26 AM

I hadn't remembered Louis's mother said that, it has been awhile since I read about it. It would certainly have been an interesting marriage had it happened. Marie would have had the revolution not happened brought a lot of money into the marriage too, of course. Victoria of Battenberg was very practical/ down to the earth, it's not surprising she said that.