Russian Noble and Princely Families

[PrincessKaimi]

I found this list of Russian princely houses (after looking for one for awhile, the one on wikipedia is not as comprehensive), thought it might be useful to some of you:

About: Russian nobility

[PrincessKaimi]

If anyone has any information about the Lazarev family (raised to nobility by Catherine the Great, I think), I'd like to know it. I keep reading that the famous Russian Admiral (Mikhail Petrovich Lazarev/Lazareff) was a "scion" of a noble Russian family, whose original founders were from Persia/Armenia. They then had several sons (one would have to be named Petr/Peter for that son to be the father of Admiral Lazarev). I'm curious about their genealogy. After the Revolution, many records disappeared and I don't have access to the MERSH Volume (Vol. 19) that apparently has their story in it.

Indeed, in trying to do some Russian genealogical research, I find that many maps, census records input by various volunteers, etc., have disappeared from the web. Seems Russia still discourages genealogy and doesn't want folks to trace noble lines at all.

[LovelyKate]

In a french reality show, a girl named Alexandra introduced herself as princess Alexandra Obolensky. I never heard about this russian princely family, who seems to have settled in Paris. I'm a bit disappointed that this girl took part to... THREE reality show, that's not the idea I had of russian princely families!
Does anybody know Obolensky family? I searched for them, but I only found two of Obolensky family members: a rugby player, and an aristocrat fond of history, both of them lived in England.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by LovelyKate

In a french reality show, a girl named Alexandra introduced herself as princess Alexandra Obolensky. I never heard about this russian princely family, who seems to have settled in Paris. I'm a bit disappointed that this girl took part to... THREE reality show, that's not the idea I had of russian princely families!
Does anybody know Obolensky family? I searched for them, but I only found two of Obolensky family members: a rugby player, and an aristocrat fond of history, both of them lived in England.

I only know of Prince Serge who wrote "One man and his time." Married an Astor. Those American socialites picked up many a penniless aristocrat after the war.

[LovelyKate]

Thanks russophile! I think Alexandra is a "penniless aristocrat" who's trying to become rich and famous. Unfortunately for her, she never met an Astor or else, and has to figure into a trashy reality show!

[AristoCat]

Does anyone know anything about the Russian Nobility Association?

[Kasumi]

Have you tried Google? C'mon just try it, it doesn't hurt!

Russian Noble Assembly
Russian Nobility Association, Inc. (RNA)

[AristoCat]

Yeah, but there isn't that much about it.

[Cory]

The descendants of the morganatic marriages of members of the imperial Family belong to princely families now (Romanowsky...).

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I want to know more about the RNA too, so I can track one of the hot Princes down and marry them!
In all seriousness, why did Russia have Princely families after the country became an Empire ruled only by the Emperor?

[Cory]

Genealogy of the Princely Family Youssoupov:

Genroy : Youssoupov

[Lenora]

Here is a short interview of a Russian young Knyaz ,Rostislav Romanov (born in 1985),who was born in Chicago,has lived in Britain ,has visited more times Russia and considers himself a British Russian.He is the son of Rostislav Romanov and Cristin Ipsen,being the great-great-grandson of the Emperor Alexander III of Russia and the great-grandson of Xenia,the sister of the last Tsar of Russia.
romanovtoday -
Google

[AristoCat]

I am impressed at how they have managed to keep a low profile. Considering the amount of amazing history behind them, you would think that they would be all over the place. Many of them do work for a living and frankly I think it's fascinating that they all are successful at maintaining secrecy.

[Cory]

The Genealogy of the Demidoff Princes:

Genroy : Demidoff

[Burzg]

Originally Posted by Cory

The Genealogy of the Demidoff Princes:

Genroy : Demidoff

very great know

[XeniaCasaraghi]

Rostislav looks like Harry Potter. But Thanx for the link, I've been looking for more on him.

[Kasumi]

The descendant of the Romanovs' proposes to equate wearing the mini-shorts to disorderly conduct.

Article in Russian
Google translation into English

[AristoCat]

That sounds like someone with way too much time on their hands.

[Cory]

Obviously the aristocrats who are members of this association do not understand the real problems of people.
He is a russian aristocrat who lives abroad but still seems interested in the realities of the homeland of his ancestors.

[genegirl99]

Sounds like a generation thing. I remember my grandma complaining about girls wearing pants...