Romanov Rescue 1917-1919: Action and Inaction - Page 15

Moonmaiden23 · #**281** 10-21-2022, 12:45 AM

I have read that Nicholas II had quite a large sum of money stashed away in the Bank of England and perhaps a few other countries. And when you take the considerable amount of jewels that the Empress and her daughters had hidden and sewn into their clothing into consideration,the Imperial family wouldn't have been a financial burden to their English relatives.

The Romanovs were only too eager to leave Russia after the fall of the Provisional Government, but by then it was too late.

**An Ard Ri** · #**282** 10-21-2022, 03:46 AM

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Another thing was that managing the Romanovs would be expensive. They were a large family and other countries couldn’t afford them. Plus Nicholas and Alexandra stubbornly refused to leave Russia.

Dowager Empress Maria also refused to leave Russia and hung on in the Crimea and only left in 1919 after her sister Queen Alexandra urged her.
17 Romanovs left Yalta in the Crimea onboard the HMS Marlborough along with pets and staff.

SirGyamfi1 · #**283** 10-21-2022, 05:04 AM

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Dowager Empress Maria also refused to leave Russia and hung on in the Crimea and only left in 1919 after her sister Queen Alexandra urged her.
17 Romanovs left Yalta in the Crimea onboard the HMS Marlborough along with pets and staff.

IMO Nicholas and Alexandra were really out of touch, naïve and prideful to realize the writing on the wall. They actually had chances to leave before the worst was yet to come. But they risked the life of their immediate family.

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I have read that Nicholas II had quite a large sum of money stashed away in the Bank of England and perhaps a few other countries. And when you take the considerable amount of jewels that the Empress and her daughters had hidden and sewn into their clothing into consideration,the Imperial family wouldn't have been a financial burden to their English relatives.

The Romanovs were only too eager to leave Russia after the fall of the Provisional Government, but by then it was too late.

The jewels that had on them were probably fairly expensive but nothing excessive. Plus managing a family like that big security would be needed to provide for them and the probably the extended family. I heard of the bank account but what happened to the money?

**An Ard Ri** · #**284** 10-21-2022, 05:32 AM

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IMO Nicholas and Alexandra were really out of touch, naïve and prideful to realize the writing on the wall. They actually had chances to leave before the worst was yet to come. But they risked the life of their immediate family.

They should have at least sent their children to safety!

CyrilVladisla · #**285** 10-21-2022, 05:45 AM

One of the large standing myths was that Tsar Nicholas II had over 600 million gold rubles in the Bank of England.
His father Tsar Alexander III deposited his personal capital of about 90 million gold rubles in the Bank of England.

SirGyamfi1 · #**286** 10-21-2022, 05:53 AM

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They should have at least sent their children to safety!

They were too attached to one another and one of the ladies-in-waiting wanted to take the children but Alexandra refused. If only Alexandra did that instead.

Denville · #**287** 10-21-2022, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

I have read that Nicholas II had quite a large sum of money stashed away in the Bank of England and perhaps a few other countries. And when you take the considerable amount of jewels that the Empress and her daughters had hidden and sewn into their clothing into consideration,the Imperial family wouldn't have been a financial burden to their English relatives.

The Romanovs were only too eager to leave Russia after the fall of the Provisional Government, but by then it was too late.

The Dowager Empress was short of money, and no country really wanted to take the IF in - regardless of expenses. Nicholas had a horrible reputation as Nicholas the Bloody, and most Euroepan Royal families were wary of putting their own thrones at risk by giving him permanent residence.

**An Ard Ri** · #**288** 10-21-2022, 10:01 AM

The Dowager Empress also sadly refused to believe that the Tsar and Family were murdered and stated ‘Nobody saw Nicky killed,’

Two very loyal Cossack soldiers accompanied the Dowager onboard the HMS Marlborough and slept outside her cabin.

Moonmaiden23 · #**289** 10-21-2022, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SirGyamfi1

IMO Nicholas and Alexandra were really out of touch, naïve and prideful to realize the writing on the wall. They actually had chances to leave before the worst was yet to come. But they risked the life of their immediate family.

The jewels that had on them were probably fairly expensive but nothing excessive. Plus managing a family like that big security would be needed to provide for them and the probably the extended family. I heard of the bank account but what happened to the money?

"What happened to the money?" is an excellent question. It has been speculated upon in many books.

SirGyamfi1 · #**290** 10-21-2022, 12:15 PM

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The Dowager Empress also sadly refused to believe that the Tsar and Family were murdered and stated ‘Nobody saw Nicky killed,’

Two very loyal Cossack soldiers accompanied the Dowager onboard the HMS Marlborough and slept outside her cabin.

I’m sure she knew he was killed but she didn’t believe it out of shock or just deluded herself to save face.

**An Ard Ri** · #**291** 10-21-2022, 12:25 PM

Nikolai Sokolov prepared a full report for the Dowager Empress on the Murder of the Imperial Family ,the Dowager Empress even gave money towards it but in the end refused to read it and the meeting between Nikolai Sokolov and the Dowager Empress was cancelled by her daughter Grand Duchess Xiena who believed it was far too graphic for an elderly lady.

https://www.rbth.com/arts/2015/04/18...ngs_45299.html

Prinsara · #**292** 10-21-2022, 01:11 PM

Some things one cannot bring oneself to believe.

Considering what was actually done to her family, it's probably merciful if she didn't learn the details.

SirGyamfi1 · #**293** 10-21-2022, 01:48 PM

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Nikolai Sokolov prepared a full report for the Dowager Empress on the Murder of the Imperial Family ,the Dowager Empress even gave money towards it but in the end refused to read it and the meeting between Nikolai Sokolov and the Dowager Empress was cancelled by her daughter Grand Duchess Xiena who believed it was far too graphic for an elderly lady.

https://www.rbth.com/arts/2015/04/18...ngs_45299.html

Yes, I heard that she requested this, but she never met Nikolai. At that point, I think she realized he wasn’t alive.