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09-25-2006, 12:41 AM
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Thanks everyone for the pictures!!
Madde, your pics are fantastic as always!!
I know from another board that Dagmar went back to Denmark for her own safety after 1919 when her son (the last tsar) and his family were killed, but upon her death, why wasn't she returned to Russia as per her wishes? Why did they wait until decades later?
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09-25-2006, 01:07 AM
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... but upon her death, why wasn't she returned to Russia as per her wishes? Why did they wait until decades later?
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Have you forgotten that the Soviet Union was a communist dictatorship responsible for the murder of as many members of the Imperial Family that could be found?
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09-25-2006, 01:58 AM
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I know from another board that Dagmar went back to Denmark for her own safety after 1919 when her son (the last tsar) and his family were killed, but upon her death, why wasn't she returned to Russia as per her wishes? Why did they wait until decades later?
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She stipulated in her will that she wanted to be buried with her husband in Russia once the bolsheviks were no longer in power. ( Take that as communists) After the fall of communism the political situation in Russia had to stabilise before the discussion of the transfer of her remains could commence. Even so there were tensions between Denmark and Russia a few years ago that stalled the discussion as to Marie's reburial next to her husband.
2006 was chosen as it marked the 140th anniversary of Princess Dagmar's arrival in Russia to marry Alexander.
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09-25-2006, 09:46 AM
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Great Pictures! I was curious about the bearers uniforms, does anyone know if they are Danish or Russian or both?
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09-25-2006, 10:19 AM
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Great Pictures! I was curious about the bearers uniforms, does anyone know if they are Danish or Russian or both?
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Half of them are Russian and the other half are Danish. The uniforms with the bluish tint is the Russian.
Apparently the Danish and the Russian military march differently, so they had to have a couple of practice sessions before the big days so it would look similar as they marched.
In Denmark, a Danish commander/colonel (whatever the rank was) walked first in front of the coffin and the men, and his Russian equivalent walked last - and when they get to Russia, it will be the other way around.
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09-25-2006, 11:25 AM
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Half of them are Russian and the other half are Danish. The uniforms with the bluish tint is the Russian.
Apparently the Danish and the Russian military march differently, so they had to have a couple of practice sessions before the big days so it would look similar as they marched.
In Denmark, a Danish commander/colonel (whatever the rank was) walked first in front of the coffin and the men, and his Russian equivalent walked last - and when they get to Russia, it will be the other way around.
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Thank you very much norwegianne!
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09-25-2006, 12:00 PM
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Interesting bit of info I Didnt know this.
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09-26-2006, 06:35 AM
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Russia gets empress's remains back
SAINT PETERSBURG - The remains of Maria Fyodorovna, mother of Russia's last tsar, has arrived in Russia aboard a Danish naval ship, 87 years after she fled the Bolshevik revolution, organisers said.
The coffin arrived in the Baltic port of Kronstadt to a 31-gun salute and was transferred to a Russian naval vessel, an official organiser said.
http://www.suntimes.co.za/zones/sund...159260141.aspx
Images from getty
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09-26-2006, 09:06 AM
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According to B.T. http://www.bt.dk/royalt/artikel:aid=470946/
Constantine and Anne-Marie will be present as well as Prince Michael of Kent.
Frederik is, supposedly, also bringing some earth from Marie/Dagmar's rose beds at Villa Hvidøre.
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09-26-2006, 12:10 PM
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A coffin bearing the remains of Empress Maria Fyodorovna, mother of Russia's last tsar, arrives to the Russian Orthodox Alexander Nevsky Church in Petrodvorets, some 20 km (12 miles) from St.Petersburg, September 26, 2006
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Nikolai, left, and Dmitry Romanov attend an unveiling ceremony of a monument to Czarina Maria Feodorovna in the Peterhof complex outside St.Petersburg, Russia, Tuesday, Sept. 26, 2006.
Sebastian Romanov holds a candle and Rostislav Romanov, right, and Nikita Romanov stand at a monument to Czarina Maria Feodorovna after its unveiling ceremony in the Peterhof complex outside St.Petersburg, Russia, Tuesday, Sept. 26, 2006
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09-26-2006, 05:19 PM
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Are Dimitri and Nickolai Xenia's descendants?
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09-26-2006, 05:40 PM
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Not sure who they belong to but they both call themselves Princes and Dmitri says he's head of the family, something he definately aint.
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09-26-2006, 06:21 PM
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Are Dimitri and Nickolai Xenia's descendants?
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Nicholas I and his wife Alexandra of Prussia had among 4 sons Alexander II and Nicholas. Alexander II is grandfather to Nicholas II and Xenia, while Nicholas is grandfather to Nicholas and Dimitri. Nicholas and Dimitri's mother was a princess of Montenegro; she was daughter of King Nicholas I of Montenegro.
So no - they are not descendants of Xenia.
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09-26-2006, 09:29 PM
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I wonder if the Empress would have preferred to have stayed in Denmark, considering the tragic deaths of her son and his family.
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09-26-2006, 09:51 PM
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I wonder if the Empress would have preferred to have stayed in Denmark, considering the tragic deaths of her son and his family.
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She denied the fact all her remain life until her death. For Empress Maria Feodorovna, her son and daughter-in-law and grand -children were wandering somewhere in the world. She rejected the Sokolov report, that said that all of them were murdered and their corpses distroyed. So, I don't think she'll be bothered for being buried in Russia. By the way, this is the country where her husband Alexander III and her sons (and also her grandchldren) are now buried.
God Bless her. Holy Russia received her Empress today, after 87 years of her sad departing.
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09-27-2006, 03:17 AM
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http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranje...159278050.html
Glittering Royal Events Message Board
Pictures are from getty images

Crown Princess Mary, Crown Prince Frederik, Henrik and Queen Margerethe watch as the coffin of Marie Feodorovna goes past Palace Amalienborf in Copenhagen.

A visitor at Denmark's Royal Library looks at the pictures of Maria and Alexander III.
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09-27-2006, 08:07 AM
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Crown Prince, Crown Princess of Denmark arrive in St.Petersburg
http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/28.html?id_issue=11594717
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Members of the Romanov family enjoy a parade at the Military-technical University at the former premises of the chevalierguard regiment, the chief of which was the late Russian Empress Maria Fiodorovna
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Olga Romanova (C), a great-granddaughter of late Russian Empress Maria Fiodorovna unveils her sculpure portrait at the 'Marshal' hotel in St. Petersburg, 27 September 2006. The sculpture was unveiled at the premises of the chevalierguard regiment, the chief of which was the Russian Empress.
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09-27-2006, 01:22 PM
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Crown Princess Mary of Denmark attends the opening of an exhibition by Danish court painter Lauritz Tuxen in the Hermitage museum St. Petersburg September 27, 2006. (Source REUTERS/Alexander Demianchuk)

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