Murder of the Imperial Family 17 July 1918

[kell]

TIME: R.I.P.--At Long Last i ll let the modrators decide which of my artciles to keep or edit and the last lines about marieas son is still funny sorry but it is

[kell]

Interfax-Religion Moscow, January 18, Interfax - The Russian Investigative Committee does not doubt the authenticity of the remains of the former Russian emperor Nicholas II and his family, which where found near Yekaterinburg.

"We are absolutely sure the identification of the remains of the imperial family was 100% correct", Vladimir Solovyov, the committee's investigator who has been in charge of the investigation into the killing of Nicholas II and his family since 1993.

On January 2011, Solovyov put his signature on a resolution closing the criminal case into the Romanovs' execution.

The case had been closed several times before, the last time on January 15, 2009.

"The new resolution contains nothing new compared to the previous one. The previous resolution has been brought in conformity with the October 1, 2008 ruling of the Supreme Court's Presidium. A new clause was added, which says that they were executed on behalf of the state," Solovyov said. Anger as Russia closes the case of the murdered Tsar | RUSSIA | The Moscow News

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by Vasillisos Markos

I wonder if they can locate Michael's bones this way as well?

According to the Crawford book on Michael and Natasha, they say Michael's bones have been paved over.

(They paved paradise and put in a parking lot. . . )

[COUNTESS]

What is God's name is the difference? They have all been dead for over 90 years.

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by Russophile

According to the Crawford book on Michael and Natasha, they say Michael's bones have been paved over.

(They paved paradise and put in a parking lot. . . )

With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swinging hot spot . . .

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

What is God's name is the difference? They have all been dead for over 90 years.

Maybe just idle curiosity or perhaps a desire to see the remains buried with some dignity. Wouldn't you want your ancestors or relatives to be treated with some respect, even if they are long dead?

[Lenora]

By now,some special experts studying the murder of Tzar and the family have claimed that Lenin wasn't implied in their murder,but he was .Well,I talked to many old people who remember well those times.By sending the family to Ekaterinburg ,Lenin let the others decide how to make them disappear sooner from the Earth:sending in Camp of Siberia on works or to kill them immediately.It was he who commended their death and was satisfied,as he considered the Tzar guilty in his brother's death,Lenin just moved on.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

What is God's name is the difference? They have all been dead for over 90 years.

Would be nice to give Michael a nice burial and his man, Mr. Johnson. Besides, find out where the bones are.
Maybe put them in a tree museum and pay a dollar and a half to see them. .

[Warren]

Sorry guys, the torch for "Anna Anderson was Anastasia" has been well and truly extinguished and we are not going to reopen the subject.

The "Coble Report" published in March 2009 establishes that the remains of the Tsar, Tsarina, four daughters and Alexei have been identified.
None of the immediate Imperial Family survived Ekaterinburg.

A link to the report is here: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:...l.pone.0004838

Members who wish to dispute the findings should take it up with the report's authors.

Warren
TRF Administrator

[AristoCat]

Neither has the top candidate for the job. "That boy," Likhachev says with indignation of the 16-year-old would-be heir to the dynasty, Georgi Romanov, a distant relative, "is not fit." Young Georgi, Likhachev argued in a letter to Yeltsin, is "more Hohenzollern than Romanov." Moreover, when he led Georgi on a tour of the Hermitage, the former imperial palace, Likhachev was shocked. "The pudgy little fellow ran right over to the throne and tried it out for size. No, he won't do at all."

I think that is so utterly arrogant and presumptious. Georgi isn't really Russian, at all and to walk right over and sit on the throne, is just plain horrific manners.

[Burzg]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

I think that is so utterly arrogant and presumptious. Georgi isn't really Russian, at all and to walk right over and sit on the throne, is just plain horrific manners.

yes i agree with you

[Vasillisos Markos]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

I think that is so utterly arrogant and presumptious. Georgi isn't really Russian, at all and to walk right over and sit on the throne, is just plain horrific manners.

Originally Posted by Burzg

yes i agree with you

Apologies but wouldn't these comments be better placed on the thread devoted to Maria and George Vladimirovich?

The sad anniversary of this massacre was a few days ago.

[AristoCat]

I don't think the butchery in a basement was justified, but put frankly, Nicholas had made so many mistakes, that killed MILLIONS of Russians. He sent them to war ill-equipped, refused to agree to reforms that would have made things so much better, he let his inexperienced wife meddle and didn't be upfront with the Russian people about the illness of his son (and the Russian people knew that something was wrong behind the scenes) and at no point made a single decision that did good for Russia. It was shameless butchery that set a demonic precedent, but it was the culmination of decades of horrific mismanagement. He should have been put on trial, along with Alexandra, but frankly put, I don't blame the hatred that the Russians felt.

[Vasillisos Markos]

Sure, their hatred was understandable and political, but why did the children have to be massacred as well? That, in my mind, is unspeakable and totally detestable.

[AristoCat]

I never said killing the children was excusable. The French in the midst of their butchery never killed the royal children at all, just eventually exchanged them as hostages.

[Royal Fan]

May they rest in peace now and forever

[AristoCat]

the minute they died, I'm sure they did.

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I'm sorry but for whatever hatred the Russians felt for Nicholas and Alexandra it did not call for what happened in that basement. First, there should have been a trial, second the Russian people did not condemn the Romanovs to die, only a select few bullies made that decision and then went on to terrorize the entire country. That's probably one of the reasons why Russians have never "forgotten" the Romanovs like the Bolsheviks wanted them to, because Russia didn't condemn them as a people.
And if the murders did need to occur there was no reason to murder Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia, Dr. Botkin etc. I could maybe MAYBE understand killing Alexei along with his parents, and I hate to even say that, but he was a political liability being Nicholas' heir. But the other 6 people who died that night served no purpose. Plus they killed Nargony prior to the murders in the basement.

[AristoCat]

I never at any point said it was justified or even understandable. I am stating that at that point, with feelings running high and the Communists fighting the Whites (pro-democracy/monarchy), that ti was no wonder they chose assassination at that point.

[XeniaCasaraghi]

The communist murdered the family and their relatives out of fear, and no matter how high their emotions were I will never view what they did as understandable. Killing Nicholas, Alexandra and Aleksy is understandable; the dozen of others they killed is unforgivable, cowardly, and downright disgusting.

[Cory]

The murder of so many members of the Imperial Family is a symbol of the communist regime.The communists killed millions of people in Russia and in the countries under this kingd of dictatorship.