Monarchy and Restoration; Rival Families and Claimants

[Benedict XVI]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

If she wants to reign in Russia it would be helpful if she & Georgi lived in Russia, at their own expense and not the states, and started working for Russian charities to assist the Russian people.

Yes they need to be more like Alexander of Serbia and I believe Michael of Romania has done the same. She should stop trying so hard to get the state to pay for it. When the state won't do it.

Originally Posted by AristoCat

...IF there is a restoration it will have to be done where the royals are self supporting and working with the Russians shoulder to shoulder and working just as hard as anyone else.

I doubt Maria would work as hard as other Russians (not that I don't like her but they do need to step up.

[AristoCat]

Quite right, which means that it would be up to Georgi to end up doing it. She is old, but it is irrational to think that the Russians should support ANYONE with their taxmoney in regards to royalty. There is also Prince Rostislav who is a direct descendant of Grand Duchess Xenia and irrespective of whether or not he fits in accordance to the Pauline Laws, a newly agreed upon monarch could easily modify them and edit several things out.

[Ceallach]

Originally Posted by Ceallach

More akin to what Crown Prince Alexander has accomplished and is doing in Serbia. He did not move there until 2000 after Milosevic was toppled, and got back then got back the assets, was formally recognized, and restored his ancestors name. He is seen as the most likely monarch to be restored and the hardest working non-reigning royal.

It is ok for Maria to wait too before moving there, but she does indeed need to be more involved in Russian charities and can not have being on the government payroll as a condition of her return. She needs to be helping the russian people, and go back when there is change to assist them further like Alexander.

While Nicholas on Montenegro is returning with a salary and expense account attached - it is that of a politician not a king. I suspect Alexander may have the same at this point too, but both worked from afar to help there people to be given their political appointments. She may get that in time too, but I think she may expect more.

[Benedict XVI]

Ya she needs to give up on having the state give her money. I don't read much on her but does she have enough money to by a home and finance maids and servants if she did want to go back?

[NGalitzine]

I believe it is her half sister Helen, from her mothers first marriage to a wealthy American, who has the money.

[AristoCat]

Originally Posted by Benedict XVI

Ya she needs to give up on having the state give her money. I don't read much on her but does she have enough money to by a home and finance maids and servants if she did want to go back?

Either way, taxpayer support just isn't going to happen.

[Benedict XVI]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

Either way, taxpayer support just isn't going to happen.

Yes that is true.

[Cory]

Royal Russia News: Economist Proposes Return of Monarchy in Russia

[COUNTESS]

Sounds like a paid commercial to me.

[alira]

This question does not interest the Russian citizens now, because it is too many more important issues. I can't speak for all of Russians, but it is almost certain that the majority of citizens against such a decision...

[Alexey 1904]

Bravo, Alira, for finally setting the record straight on GD Maria and her 'heir' Georgi. Now if only the people who write in this thread can finally understand that.

[alira]

Alexey 1904,but it's true) The Russian people do not now think about the restoration of the monarchy, it's just not important for us.

[Alexey 1904]

I believe you, dear. Now I wonder what Cory would have to say?

[Benjamin]

I am not Cory, but...
Just because the majority of citizens in the country over which they used to rule do not desire a monarchical restoration (as is the case in every single nation where a monarchy has been overthrown), does not ipso facto render discussion of the deposed dynasty or its members to be irrelevant, does it? So, what is your point, exactly?

[Cory]

It is obvious in this moment there is no majority in favour of Monarchy in Russia. The royalists were quite damaged by those who continued to campaign against Grand duchess Maria.

[kell]

auctually to me the question is why soo many around putin are monarcists

[Benedict XVI]

Originally Posted by kell

auctually to me the question is why soo many around putin are monarcists

I didn't know that. I doubt that he will take there advise but that is interesting.

[Alexey 1904]

I didn't say a discussion about a dynasty no longer in existence was not irrelevant. I'm saying anyone can talk about the Romanov dynasty all they want. It was stated by an actual Russian person the dynasty is no longer important to them. There are much more important issues they choose to be involved in to better their country, and while there are monarchists and royalists still in Russia, the majority have other things on their minds.

[branchg]

Russia needs a responsive and democratic government, not another autocracy. The Romanovs have a long and bloody history that is hardly revered by the average Russian. While there may be a few monarchists running around, I doubt they are a majority of the people.

Maria is not advocating a restoration with her sitting on a throne. She recognizes the time is not right and she is realistic that it may never happen. In the meantime, she has a role to play in reminding people of the imperial heritage and history, which is considerable, and in upholding Orthodox tradition with the Church.

There's nothing wrong with that.

[Alexey 1904]

I didn't say the monarchists were a majority. I said the majority of people living in Russia have more important things to think about in their lives than a restoration.