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05-17-2010, 02:45 PM
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grand dukes
I've noticed that many of the grand dukes have been speculated to have been gay. What's with that?
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05-17-2010, 04:24 PM
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I heard that Felix Yussopouv was rumored to be gay, or at least bi-sexual, but I don't think he was a Grand Duke, just a prince. Alexandra's brother was gay but he was Grand Duke of Hesse, not a Russian Grand Duke. Which Russian Grand Dukes were considered gay?
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05-17-2010, 04:33 PM
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Felix was also the only one I could think off & he's not a Grand Duke as you said.
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05-17-2010, 04:51 PM
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Prince Yusupov was known to be at least bisexual, and it was rumoured that one of his partners was Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovic.
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05-17-2010, 06:34 PM
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Grand Duke Serge was thought to be gay, though it was never proven. The one who wrote about his gayness--for lack of a better word, was Grand Duke Constantine Constanovitch, also known as "KR."
Dmitry ran with Felix though I doubt he was gay. He was very much in love with Mischa's wife, Countess Brassov. (See the Crawfords book Michael and Natasha.)
Though does it matter who was gay and who wasn't? Really?
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05-17-2010, 06:45 PM
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Wasn't Grand Duke Constantine Constanovitch (aka KR) homosexual? Isn't that why in his will he stated that his diaries were not to be made public/read for 99 years??
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05-17-2010, 06:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaLandgrave
Wasn't Grand Duke Constantine Constanovitch (aka KR) homosexual? Isn't that why in his will he stated that his diaries were not to be made public/read for 99 years??
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Yes, he was though he fathered 9 children. He really did his duty, so to speak. . . . 
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05-17-2010, 07:18 PM
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For sure... and it seems that, despite him being gay, he loved his wife and she him.... and he "tried hard" not to fall off the wagon...
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05-17-2010, 07:32 PM
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No, it doesn't matter who was gay or not, just great to realize that the royals are made up of different people just like us poor commoners. I don't think anyone meant to disparage a gay royal, I certainly did not.
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05-18-2010, 01:05 PM
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The only reason why it's interesting is because it fleshes out the historical person. You understand "Oh yes, this is why he did thus and such." I just don't understand why people single it out. KR was a fasincating person and Grand Duke first--and foremost, and he just happened to be gay.
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05-19-2010, 12:42 PM
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Knowing about one's predilections puts events in context, doesn't it? And it does make historical figures more flesh and blood individuals.
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06-06-2010, 01:56 PM
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06-06-2010, 01:58 PM
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07-11-2010, 02:23 AM
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The monuments of two Russian Tzars are to appear in Vologda
New monuments may appear in Vologda. The city’s department of town-planning has put forward the initiative of establishing monuments to Ivan IV and Peter I.
Both of these Russian tsars in different historical periods visited Vologda several times. Steadfast attention of Ivan the Terrible to Vologda in due time even brought about a version that the tsar was going to shift the capital of the Russian state to Vologda.
Peter I the Great visited Vologda at least five times. The history monument - "House of Peter I" - on the bank of Vologda river still remains a favourite place of interest both for Vologda dwellers and tourists. - Russia InfoCenter
I'm not sure if I post this message to the proper thread, and I'll appreciate any help of the moderators. And -- do we have any specific thread for HIM Peter I Alexeevich the Great and for the Rurikids (Ivan IV Vasilyevich for example) here?
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07-18-2010, 09:05 PM
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Some help finding a pic
I'm trying to find a pic taken at Ernie and Ducky's wedding, but where the bridal pair is not in it. Kaiser Wilhelm II is standing next to Nicholas, with his hand on his shoulders, Ella and Serge are sitting in the front with the children, and Alix is in the middle row, with a smile on her face. Or at least a happy expression. I've tried to search everywhere, but can find it nowhere on line.
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07-18-2010, 11:37 PM
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Have you tried Google or Bing? The Library of Congress has royal pictures also.
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07-31-2010, 05:11 AM
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Descendants of morganatic marriages of members of the Imperial Family
In the XXth century almost all the members of the Imprial Family had morganatic marriages ad that's why today we have only two members in the Imprial House (HIH GD Maria and HIH GD George).But there are also descendants of morganatic marriages of the XIXth century.
Here we can speak about all these descendants and their lives even if their surname is Paley, Illinsky,Romanowsky,Yurievsky or other.
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09-22-2010, 05:24 AM
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Re: Romanov Relations
Does anyone here know any information on Princess Natalia Chemenev (married to Alexandre Obreskoff?) and what her relation is in the line of the Romanov family tree? Who was her father and mother? I am doing a study on her here in Paris and have found pretty much almost nothing mentioned about her. I would appreciate anyone help in this search. Does there exist any books about her already?
Regards from France
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09-22-2010, 12:04 PM
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Jay,
I googled both names and came up with zip. Can you give us whatever information you may have on Natalia and Alexandre?
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