Members of the Extended Romanov Family, past and present

[Biri]

Angelica Ilyinsky, née Kauffman, widow of Prince Paul Ilyinsky (1928-2004), himself the son of Grand Duke Dmitri Pavlovich of Russia, died at Palm Beach, Florida, on 19 November.

She is usrvived by her four children: Dimitri (b.1954), Paula (b.1956), Ann (b.1958) & Michael (b.1959), their spouses, nine grandchildren, one grandson-in-law and one great-granddaughter.
In 2002 she experienced a great tragedy; one of her granddaughters, Makena Comisar (daughter of Paula) was killed in a car accident, aged 18.


Sources: Royal News of 2011, Section I
Royal News 2002, Section I
Descendants of King Christian IX of Denmark

[Kasumi]

Long-Lost Songs by Romanovs Surface | Arts & Ideas | The Moscow Times
Taking 15 years to put together, a recent concert at Tavrichesky Palace in St. Petersburg could have claimed a place in "The Guinness Book of World Records." The performance, entitled "The Imperial Musical Collection," showcased 20 long-lost musical works composed exclusively by members of the Romanov family, including Tsar Alexander II and Prince Konstantin Romanov.

[AristoCat]

I think Rostislav is adorable in these photos.

He is adorably geeky and he just looks so cute here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/10fb1.jpg/; just the adorable face that grandmothers like to pinch and coo over.

Here: http://romanovtoday.livejournal.com/5429.html?view=12597#t12597 he looks like Jim Carry as Edward Nygma: Edward-Nygma-jim-carrey-1014018_544_304.jpg, the 'normal' male version of the Riddler. Just as I said that Georgi looked like the Penguin.

[Kasumi]

Prince Nicholas Romanov: We have always felt Bulgaria very close, mostly because of the language - FOCUS Information Agency
“I hope I will be able to visit Bulgaria and get acquainted with this country, which we have always felt very close, mostly because of the language,” Nicholas Romanovich Romanov, Prince of Russia, said in a special interview with FOCUS News Agency.
“The Bulgarian language is intelligible for all Russians, I find the rest of the Christian languages much harder. I cannot speak Bulgarian but I can read absolutely everything,” he added.

[DWC]

Nice to see HH Prince Nicholas Romanovich is looking to travel abroad going into his 90th year, hopefully he realises his wish to visit Bulgaria and has good health for years to come.

[Artemisia]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

I think Rostislav is adorable in these photos.

He is adorably geeky and he just looks so cute here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/201/10fb1.jpg/; just the adorable face that grandmothers like to pinch and coo over.

I met Rostislav quite accidentally while in Moscow. Didn't have any idea who he was until a friend told me. He is really quite adorable, especially when trying to speak Russian. I think he may add to the Romanov popularity in Russia in times to come. There is a strong political void right now; there is Putin, and basically there is no one else. Monarchy could be the answer to Russia's troubles.
I daresay Prince Nicholas Romanov (and by default, his presumed eventual heir, Prince Rostislav) have far more realistic chances to the Throne than Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and Prince Georgi. I wish it weren't so, because as an Armenian I have nothing but warmest feelings to our Georgian brothers (and the Grand Duchess's mother was Georgian), but there is no way Russians would ever accept a ruler who is 1/4 Georgian and 1/2 German.

[Artemisia]

Originally Posted by Kasumi

Prince Nicholas Romanov: We have always felt Bulgaria very close, mostly because of the language - FOCUS Information Agency
“I hope I will be able to visit Bulgaria and get acquainted with this country, which we have always felt very close, mostly because of the language,” Nicholas Romanovich Romanov, Prince of Russia, said in a special interview with FOCUS News Agency.
“The Bulgarian language is intelligible for all Russians, I find the rest of the Christian languages much harder. I cannot speak Bulgarian but I can read absolutely everything,” he added.

The Prince is right, Bulgarian is very similar to Russian, rather like Belorussian and even Serbian. If you are fluent in Russian, you may not actually be able to speak the other three, but you'll certainly understand it.

I confess, I didn't even know Prince Nicholas speaks Russian; I'm glad he took the time to learn the language of his ancestors.

[MAfan]

He knows Russian because he spent his childhood and part of his youth in an environment formed of Russian expats in France: they spoke Russian among them, and even continued to use the Julian calendar, despite in France the Gregorian calendar is the one used.

[Biri]

Princess Valli of Russia nee Knust died in the Old Vicarage, Leigh, Dorset, on 10 July.

She was born in London on 4 April 1930.
She married there on 8 June 1961, as his third wife, Prince Vsevelod of Russia (1914-1973) [son of Prince Ivan of Russia (1886-exuted in Alapaevsk on the night 17/18 July 1918) & his wife, Princess Helene of Serbia (1884-1962)] soon after he divorced his previous wife, Emilia de Gosztonyi (1914-1993; married 1956); his first wife was Lady Mary Lygon (1910-1982, marriage from 1939 to 1956).

Sources: Russia
Descendants of Duke Friedrich of Saxe-Altenburg

[MAfan]

After her morganatic marriage to Prince Vsevelod Ivanovich, she was granted by Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich the title of Princess Romanovsky-Knust with the predicate of Serene Highness.

GENEALOGY OF THE IMPERIAL HOUSE OF RUSSIA

[Sonjapearl]

Does anyone know anything about Prince Mikhail Dmitrievich Keli-Romanov?

I remember some years ago, a member of the Romanovs came to Staten Island, where I live, to pay tribute to the 9/11 victims. I did some research on him recently, but couldn't find much.

This was all I could find: A 911 Commemoration

Ambassadors

He said he's distantly related to Nicholas II on his mother's side.

Does anyone know anything about this branch? Are they involved in any way to the Romanov Family Association?

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Artemisia

The Prince is right, Bulgarian is very similar to Russian, rather like Belorussian and even Serbian. If you are fluent in Russian, you may not actually be able to speak the other three, but you'll certainly understand it.

I confess, I didn't even know Prince Nicholas speaks Russian; I'm glad he took the time to learn the language of his ancestors.

I would agree with this. I was brought up in a house where Serbo-Croation was spoken. My daughter is a figure skater in an all russian program. I can generally follow the gist of the russian.

[branchg]

Nicholas Romanov is not a Prince as his father, HH Prince Roman, married without permission from Grand Duke Cyril and did not receive a morganatic style for his wife or children. As such, he is simply Mr. Romanov and his daughters are Miss Romanov or whatever their husband's names are.

There are no surviving morganatic princes of the extended family with the exception of Dimitri Ilyinsky, who does not use his father's title as HSH Prince Romanovsky-Ilyinsky because he is an American citizen. Dimitri is the senior genealogical morganaut in the male-line, not Nicholas Romanov.

[Lookingforansweres]

Hi, so I recently found out my dads grandma was Olga romanov just trying to see if she is anyway connected to the romanov's

[NGalitzine]

Romanov was not an uncommon Russian surname, but you can go to the OnlineGotha and search the Romanov families trees and see if you can find an Olga who married your relative.

[Perislov]

Originally Posted by SIDOROFF

In an interview he himself said that she just stood up. It appears that the rumour has gone beyond that. And, by the way, he is not "the heir to the throne".

Actually, both those men were republicans, and both sought for the position of the head of the republic. Nikolay Romanovitch even told that if he was in power he would have instituted a republic.

Ironically, Grand Duke Vladimir said the same thing, but I guess he can be forgiven, since he would say just about anything depending on his audience.

In a 1975 interview with a German magazine, Vladimir Kirillovich said: "Russia will never be a monarchy, I myself am in favor of democracy and I have not the slightest claim to the throne, even if they told me it belonged to me as the last living Romanov."

-Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich
Father of Maria Vladimirovna
1975 Interview

[AristoCat]

It's such a shame that the family is so fractious.

[Perislov]

Originally Posted by Mashka

Are there still alot of Romanovs in Russia? I'm very interested in the last Tsar and his family, and the Anastasia mystery. I know almost everything about them, but I wasn't aware that there were still so many Romanovs.

A few. Most notable is Rostislav Rostislavich Romanov. If the monarchy were to be re-implemented as a constitutional throne, Rostislav would probably be the most acceptable choice. He is young (about 28 years old or so) and truly appreciates the culture. He serves as the Romanov Family Association's Charity work overseer.

[Benjamin]

Oh, yes. The Russian people would surely be much more positively inclined to accept the half-American Rostislav Rostislavovich Romanov as heir to the throne than the half-German Georgy Mikhailovich Romanov. At least Georgy's ancestry is for the most part overwhelmingly royal.

[Perislov]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Oh, yes. The Russian people would surely be much more positively inclined to accept the half-American Rostislav Rostislavovich Romanov as heir to the throne than the half-German Georgy Mikhailovich Romanov. At least Georgy's ancestry is for the most part overwhelmingly royal.

Consider that George's "royal" blood qualifications was the cause of much of the hardship in Russia for the last century. He directly descends from the man who supported the Bolshevik overthrow of the monarchy in his great grandfather the Kaiser, and he is the grandson of Franz Joseph, a Nazi who participated in the invasion of Russia. Some bloodline... Maria's own father helped the Nazis by his resistence battalion, and called on all Russians to invade the Soviet Union. How many Russians died in WWII? Stalin was a tyrant, but even the likes of Kerensky, not to mention the overwhelming majority of Romanovs including everyone from Dimitri to the Nikolaevich line supported the allies. But not Vladimir.

Considering that George is the product of an arranged marriage that dissolved within months of his birth. I won't repeat the rumors that have spread around that one in Russia, but it is quite embarrassing though not surprising. Ever wonder why George's father is never actually discussed other than to say that he provided "an heir?" Why did he find his bags thrown out of his own house less than a year after he provided Grand Duke Vladimir with an heir?

Rostislav was born in America, but British by citizenship. At least he LIVES in Russia. I find it amusing how strong pro-Maria supporters kindly ignore the lack of support she has in Russia. Many who are so quick to point out random polls that list support for re-establishment at around 20% in Russia, yet conveniently forget to mention that only 1-2% of those want Maria on the throne, which makes her quite insignificant. Maybe you guys can't read Cyrillic...

George was not born in Russia, and has never lived in Russia. He's a full blooded, Hispanic German, by that line of thought. Whereas Rostislav is half anglo, half Russian.

The "royalty" bloodline is a joke.

There's also the fact that Grand Duke Mikhail's claim to the crown was passed to the choice of the people, which is all that most of us would ask in the event of any restoration. Don't autocrat supporters understand what that is? A vote? Didn't Grand Duke Vladimir state that it should be decided by the "will of the people" when asked about it? Why, yes he did.

From historian Stephan Skott:

All the Romanovs with good reason, worried for his life, no one could guarantee the safety of Michael. Most historians took why Michael did not agree to be the king, and what were his chances. But it seems that no one wondered why he abdicated it with this wording.

Meanwhile, if he had said: "I surrender!", The throne would pass automatically to Cyril.

Not content with a simple denial and referring the matter to the discretion of the Constituent Assembly, Michael knocked the crown out from under the nose of Cyril. Cyril could not produce any legal right to the throne as long as the Constituent Assembly does not recognize renunciation of Michael.

BTW, isn't George's adopted uncle Prince Zsa Zsa Gabor? What a line he descends from...