Identification of the remains found in 2007: Alexei and Marie (Coble, 2009)

[BeatrixFan]

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Russia dig finds 'tsar's family'

Well, let's hope some progress can come from this. It's about time the Romanovs sorted themselves out and maybe another Royal funeral will give them the grounds to do that.

[BorisRom]

Originally Posted by lucien

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To be honest,there is only one organisation that I would instantly believe if they would come up with such a find.
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Independent examination (and DNA-tests) should be carried out. The main question is: whether the gene of a hemophilia will be found in the remains.
In addition I can inform:
All our (Russian) TV are informing on the find as news №1. Edward Radzinsky has told (having an artful look), that identification of the remains (as the remains of Alexei and Maria) will confirm authenticity of «Yurovsky's Note» also [the same Yurovsky’s Note, not new one’s].
Metropolitan Cyril has very cautiously told: «All examinations and tests should be carried out with maximum transparent, that at anybody did not remain any doubt ».

A little more independent Russian TV-channel (NTV) has shown interview with Vadim Wiener - he said: «Yurovsky's Note is a fake, hence it is not remains of Alexei and sister».
Boris

[morhange]

Will the Duke of Edinburgh be giving another sample to help identify these new bones, or is the one he gave during the discovery of the previous remains still available? Or will others contribute?

[JPhinala]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Russia dig finds 'tsar's family'

Well, let's hope some progress can come from this. It's about time the Romanovs sorted themselves out and maybe another Royal funeral will give them the grounds to do that.

Doubtful. They certainly didn't do that at the Dowager Empress Marie's re-burial, though she always was the unifying force abroad after the revolution. While I'm thrilled that they've found Aleksi and Maria, I doubt that this will be the thing to bring the family together. The Vladimirovichi (Maria Vladimirovna and Georgi) are and always been too hauty to be palatable to the rest of the family and frankly I don't blame them. Her entire family from Kyril down has been detestably distant and imperious.

Hopefully now Aleksi and Maria can be laid to rest with their family in SS Peter and Paul Cathedral. God Bless the Romanovs!

[lucien]

Originally Posted by BorisRom

Independent examination (and DNA-tests) should be carried out. The main question is: whether the gene of a hemophilia will be found in the remains.
In addition I can inform:
All our (Russian) TV are informing on the find as news №1. Edward Radzinsky has told (having an artful look), that identification of the remains (as the remains of Alexei and Maria) will confirm authenticity of «Yurovsky's Note» also [the same Yurovsky’s Note, not new one’s].
Metropolitan Cyril has very cautiously told: «All examinations and tests should be carried out with maximum transparent, that at anybody did not remain any doubt ».

A little more independent Russian TV-channel (NTV) has shown interview with Vadim Wiener - he said: «Yurovsky's Note is a fake, hence it is not remains of Alexei and sister».
Boris

Spasibo Boris for your contribution.

I will wait what the Search Foundation's reaction will be through Margarita Nelipa on behalve of Peter Sarandinaki,President of the SEARCH Foundation.

Meanwhile to quote a dear friend;"Mr. Viner is a delusional man who's disingenuous comments mean nothing,except that he must be shaking at the knees afraid that his own claims will no longer get publicity"

JPhinala,let that Vladimirovichi woman do what that brand of the family is good at since Marie the Elder,scheming and deviding.The family is its own worse enemy.

[Benjamin]

Many of the Romanov family (most significantly the two that were quarrelling, Maria V. & Nicholas R.) dined together after the reburial of Empress Maria Feodorovna. It seems as though the feud is over. And its not like all the Romanov descendants were involved, the Ilynskys get along with everybody.

[lucien]

I have been waiting to post this,and hope I'm allowed to post this link as it is indeed important news on Alyosha and Marie.

The Alexander Palace Time Machine Discussion Forum - Index

Go to "Forum Announcements"/Formal Press Release form Ekaterinburg

Courtesy Belochka/Margarita Nelipa on behalve of Peter Sarandinaki,AP.
Translation:Masha Tolstoy - Sarandinaki

The Moscow Times this morning: Archaeologists Claim Last Romanovs Found

[RhapsodyBrat]

For those who have the National Geographic Channel, they will be featuring the Romanovs on a new series. i forgot the title of the series (sorry!) but the show i think is dedicated to royalty. the show will air on Monday, September 3, 10 PM (GMT+8).

[Royal Fan]

When will a Formal Annoucement be made and when would Burial most like take place Werent they going to release Additional Information?? Hope the Church Finally accepts this and move ill give Maria V. one thing She tried to get them rehabilitated.
GOD SAVE THE TSAR
LONG LIVE THE ROMANOVS AND MOTHER RUSSIA! +

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Royal Fan

When will a Formal Annoucement be made and when would Burial most like take place Werent they going to release Additional Information?? Hope the Church Finally accepts this and move ill give Maria V. one thing She tried to get them rehabilitated.
GOD SAVE THE TSAR
LONG LIVE THE ROMANOVS AND MOTHER RUSSIA! +

No date of a possible burial is known yet,as tests are still under way at present.There will be additional info once these have been completed.

On wednesday a court at Tverskoi ruled against a legal rehabilitation of Nicky.Prompted the Romanovs Family Association representative,Ivan Artsishevski yesterday to state on Ekho Moskvy radio that:

"Legal rehabilitation of Russian Emperor's Nicholas II family members is not needed,Russia rehabilitated the Emperor by a solemn burial of the family remains in Petropavlovsk fortress St.Petersburg".

According to Artsishevki the ruling of the Prosecutors General's Office was expected and predictable.

"The descendants of the Romanov family always held a position that if there is a legal rehabilitation,it is good,if not,it is deplorable but is hardly of great importance".

"It was a murder,it was unjustified,unfair and tragic,but it is not important in principle to resolve this issue on paper,by handing over a certificate,this is not important in principle"according to Mr.Artsishevki,yesterday.

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Courtesy Belochka,AP.

BBC today:
BBC NEWS | Europe | Lost Romanov bones 'identified'

[sirhon11234]

Russia's Last Royal Mystery Unraveled
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[Harry's polo shirt]

That is so amazing. I can't wait to find out if it is Anastasia and her brother. It is incredibly sad, but finally they can be put to rest whether it is her or not.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by sirhon11234

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Sorry, but not bloody likely.

[sirhon11234]

Originally Posted by Russophile

Sorry, but not bloody likely.

And why not?

[Russophile]

I am on a couple other forums that some of our posters have done extensive research and came up with a lot of info. Doesn't support this claim. But that doesn't surprise me that they want to put this to bed. It is Russia after all. . .

[sirhon11234]

I believe that that these remains are that of Alexis and his sister Anastasia. Hopefully the most famous family execution of the 2oth will finally be put to death.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by sirhon11234

I believe that that these remains are that of Alexis and his sister Anastasia. Hopefully the most famous family execution of the 2oth will finally be put to death.

Don't forget Sirhon, they have to do the DNA tests on these FRAGMENTS. Not whole bones, but FRAGMENTS of bone. Doesn't it make you wonder why they RAN so fast to declare them Alexi and Anastasia?

[Ex-Princess Lisa]

The DNA results should be back soon. I cannot wait to see how they are going to spin it.

I do not believe the remains are Alexei and his sister, because I think they escaped and had long lives.

But I think the DNA tests results will be 'positive' because the remains are 'Romanovs'. There were other Romanovs apart from the Tsar and his family that were not found after their death.

That explains why only fragments are available to test. They have been dug up from somewhere else.

They will be able to spin it that these fragments are the children of Nicholas II, after all it will be Romanov DNA.

[Russophile]

I wonder as well, Lisa. They've done such a botched up job with the remains that it's almost a joke.
I'm sure they'll spin and spin it.
I wonder whether they survived as well. I don't know whether they had long lives or not, Alexis was NOT in good health at the time (see King and Wilson's Fate of the Romanovs) and the children were known bleeders. Being shot and bayonetted they COULD have survived, and that would be highly fascinating! But the fact remains that there ARE 2 bodies missing. . . .

[Avalon]

Well, looks like the mystery is solved now.

DNA tests finally solve the riddle of what happened to the last Tsar's two children

For 90 years it has been an enduring mystery - did some members of the Russian royal family survive execution by the Bolsheviks in 1918?
Now DNA tests carried out on two sets of bones found in the Ural Mountains appear to have solved the riddle. Forensic experts say initial results show the human remains belong to 13-year-old Crown Prince Alexei and his sister Princess Maria, 19.