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You're correct..
Grand Duke Ludwig IV of Hesse and bei Rhine, who married Princess Alice of GB, had 7 children:
• Victoria (1863-1950) married Prince Louis of Battenberg, later 1st Marquess of Milford-Haven
• Elisabeth (1864-1918) married Grand Duke Serge of Russia
• Irene (1866-1953) marrried Prince Henry of Prussia
• Ernest Ludwig 1868-1937) later Grand Duke, married Victoria Melita
• Friedrich-Wilhelm (1870-1873) [fell from a window]
• Alix (1872-1918) Tsarina of Russia
• Marie (1874-1878)
Grand Duke Ernest Ludwig married Victoria Melita in 1894, divorced in 1901, and had:
• a son, stillborn, 1900
• Elisabeth (1895-1903)
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07-24-2008, 02:00 PM
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Does anyone have images about their children?
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11-08-2008, 01:38 AM
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After divorcing Ducky in 1901, Ernie married Princess Eleonore Solms-Hohensolms-Lich on 2 February 1905.
Their children:
*Georg Dontus (1906-1937) married Princess Cecile of Prussia (sister of the current Duke of Edinburgh).
*Ludwig (1908-1968). No issue.
Georg and Cecile had four children; 3 perished with them in an airplane accident in 1937; their fourth child, a daughter, died of meningitis in 1939.
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11-08-2008, 11:29 AM
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Grand Duchess Victoria Melita "Ducky"i s Georg von Hohenzollern Great Grandmother ?
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11-08-2008, 02:10 PM
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Georg Donatus married Cecile of Greece and Denmark, not of Prussia; they died in 1937 together with his mother and theyr two sons Ludwig and Alexander and a third stilborn son, going to London for the wedding of his brother Ludwig and the Hon. Margaret Campbell-Geddes, who later adopted Georg and Cecile's daugter Johanna.
Victoria Melita (who was only Grand Duchess of Hesse and not of Russia, because Orthodox Churh never recognized her marriage to Kirill because they were first cousins) and Kirill had three chidren: Maria, who married Prince Karl of Leiningen, Wladimir and Kira, who married Prince Louis Ferdinand of Prussia, with whom had 7 children, including Marie Cecile, Duchess of Oldenburg, and Louis Ferdinand II, the father of Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia.
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11-08-2008, 05:02 PM
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Maria , Wladimir and Kira were not Victoria Melitta's children ?
Marie Cécile of Prussia divorced the Duc of Oldenburg ; Georg's mother Donata is now Duchess of Oldenburg. I never understood why Donata married her ex-brother in law?
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11-09-2008, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by maria-olivia
Maria , Wladimir and Kira were not Victoria Melitta's children ?
Marie Cécile of Prussia divorced the Duc of Oldenburg ; Georg's mother Donata is now Duchess of Oldenburg. I never understood why Donata married her ex-brother in law?
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Yes, Maria, Kira and Wladimir were Victoria Melita and Kirill's children.
About Marie Cecile, she and Friedrich August divorced, but, if I don't mistake, until she will remarried, she retains the title of Duchess of Oldenburg (like Chantal, Princess of Hannover, the ex-wife of Prince Ernst-August).
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05-02-2009, 10:58 AM
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Here is YouTube clip that shows some of the Imperial Family...
a few have names and captions....
you can recognize Nicholas II, Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna (the Elder), Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna, Grand Duchess Victoria Melita, Grand Duke Kyril, Grand Duchess Xenia, Grand Duchess Ella......
Any others that can be named?
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05-02-2009, 05:52 PM
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I believe the duchess of Edinburgh & Saxe-Coburg, nee Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia can been seen too. Shortly after the emperor.
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05-02-2009, 09:04 PM
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Very cool clip werent that brance of the Family known to be Haughty?
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05-02-2009, 10:31 PM
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Yes, they were, especially the elder Vladmirivitchi, the brothers and sister and mother of Kyril. Kyril and Ducky and children weren't quite as haughty, by any means. It came from Marie Pavlovna, the mother of Kyril.
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05-03-2009, 11:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marengo
I believe the duchess of Edinburgh & Saxe-Coburg, nee Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia can been seen too. Shortly after the emperor.
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Is she the short, stout lady to the far left of the Czar?
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05-04-2009, 04:06 PM
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Quote:
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Is she the short, stout lady to the far left of the Czar?
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I believe she is the stout lady with the angry expression indeed.
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05-04-2009, 06:55 PM
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Thank you! When I first saw the clip, I thought she looked like the Duchess of Edinburgh.....
She does look right miffed about something, doesnt she?
Who is the taller lady between her and Miechen?
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05-05-2009, 05:37 AM
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There is an article about Princess (Granduchess Kira) of Russia, Princess of Prussia in the latest Majesty magazine. Kira was the daughter of the couple discussed here and grandmother of Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia.
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05-05-2009, 01:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaLandgrave
Thank you! When I first saw the clip, I thought she looked like the Duchess of Edinburgh.....
She does look right miffed about something, doesnt she?
Who is the taller lady between her and Miechen?
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She looks like Grand Duchess Anastasia Michailovna of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.
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05-05-2009, 07:07 PM
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Again my thanks!
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05-06-2009, 09:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAfan
Victoria Melita (who was only Grand Duchess of Hesse and not of Russia, because Orthodox Churh never recognized her marriage to Kirill because they were first cousins)
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She was formally recognized by Nicholas II as HIH Grand Duchess of Russia when he rescinded their exile and allowed Cyril to return home. The Church had nothing to do with it.
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05-06-2009, 08:01 PM
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Again my thanks!
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Doesn't that look like Tatiana N over the shoulder at the end of the clip, frame at 54 seconds?
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05-06-2009, 08:28 PM
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I was kinda thinking that it looked like all of Nicholas II's girls following Ella, Xenia, and Kyril......
Thoughts?
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