Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna: June 2008-

[Lenora]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

She is likely a seasoned fighter when it comes to things and becoming formidable is a natural result I'm sure.

That's not a bad quality to be a fighter,but she should start to pay more attention to Russian charity organizations in order to gain more more popularity and touch peoples' hearts,otherwise she will remain unknown and obviously foreign to many of Russians.

[COUNTESS]

Originally Posted by Lenora

That's not a bad quality to be a fighter,but she should start to pay more attention to Russian charity organizations in order to gain more more popularity and touch peoples' hearts,otherwise she will remain unknown and obviously foreign to many of Russians.

She looks more like a Summo Wrestler. She dresses poorly, is very large and has the poor young man tethered to her arm. She has a grat and inflated image of her standing in this world.

[AristoCat]

Originally Posted by Lenora

That's not a bad quality to be a fighter,but she should start to pay more attention to Russian charity organizations in order to gain more more popularity and touch peoples' hearts,otherwise she will remain unknown and obviously foreign to many of Russians.

She does need to stop campaigning all the time and stop toadying with Putin and Medvedev. As for her son, she is in desperate need to let him live his own life and not under the pressure of carrying on the family feud with the rest of the Romanovs. Less time with Putin and more time with the people. She will do so much more and her son has to be out there too, with Russia and ensuring that he is known to them.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

She looks more like a Summo Wrestler...is very large...

Hmm...insults about weight are cheap shots. Queen Victoria in later life was supposedly as wide as she was tall.

[COUNTESS]

It is not that she is heavy, people are what they are. She dresses poorly for her size and has an overinflated opinion, IMHO, of herself and her son. She seems to drag the poor fellow around. Let him find a nice girl, get married, if he wants to and have a life. As for Victoria, she never wore purple, flowered dressed on her tiny, but portly frame.

[AristoCat]

From what I can tell, the rest of the Imperial Family is sick of her views that they are not too, legitimate Romanovs and have just as much of a claim. Considering Vladmir's backstabbing and his wife's scheming to have the Empress Alexandra 'annihilated,' I would have to state that it's all sick. It's one big family schism and she has no business stating that she is the sole legitimate Romanov. She isn't. Prince Nicholas and the rest of the Romanovs support Prince Rotislav who is a more direct descendant of Nicholas II than Maria. Doesn't she get that alienating the rest of the Imperial Family isn't in her best interests?

[branchg]

Maria is the sole remaining dynast under the Pauline Laws as the only child of Grand Duke Vladimir, who was the last male dynast of the Vladimirovichi line. The other surviving male lines are extinct due to morganatic or unapproved marriages.

Maria has never said her relatives are not Romanovs. What she has said is they are not dynasts under the Pauline Laws and she is correct.

The throne would not pass through Grand Duchess Xenia (Rotsilav is her descendant) as her cousin, Grand Duke Cyril, was next in-line after the death of Nicholas II, his son and her brother, Michael.

[AristoCat]

When you think about it, this whole situation is actually kind of hilarious. On one hand, we have a huge family of people who rally around one contender, while on the other hand, we have a portly, pretentious woman who uses way too much makeup and has no clue on how to dress who domineers her son (who at age thirty and has a job is still socially under her full control, lest he meet someone Maria views as not good enough) and looks like The Penguin comic book character.

[NotAPretender]

Originally Posted by branchg

Maria has never said her relatives are not Romanovs. What she has said is they are not dynasts under the Pauline Laws and she is correct.

I am looking for the exact quote and article link, but Maria V most certainly made the outrageous claim that the "only three Romanovs" were there in the room, meaning herself, her mother, and her son, during the course of an interview.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

When you think about it, this whole situation is actually kind of hilarious. On one hand, we have a huge family of people who rally around one contender, while on the other hand, we have a portly, pretentious woman who uses way too much makeup and has no clue on how to dress who domineers her son (who at age thirty and has a job is still socially under her full control, lest he meet someone Maria views as not good enough) and looks like The Penguin comic book character.

Hilarious or not, the woman IS quite formidible.

[Cory]

Only Grand Duchess Maria and Grand Duke George are members of the Imperial Family.Who speak about Imperial Russia should read first the ruules of Succession .

[Lenora]

The thing is that we have other heads of the House of Romanovs and not all of them do agree with the position of heiress of Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna

[AristoCat]

Originally Posted by NotAPretender

I am looking for the exact quote and article link, but Maria V most certainly made the outrageous claim that the "only three Romanovs" were there in the room, meaning herself, her mother, and her son, during the course of an interview.

Yeah, it was when Richard K. Massie interviewed her for his book.

Irrespective of Pauline law though, I think that it was a horrible, vindictive statement. Family is family irrespective of ambition.

[kell]

cory umm i gotta ask wasnt maries vlandornivas mother a divorcee whos name was kirby whom was in a conerction camp during the war which would be meaning she lost her childerns right to the throne just asking since noone ever brings up that tid bit under paul 1 law which is why she was last i heard astranged with her sister as well half sister

[AristoCat]

It's such a tangled mess, isn't it?

I wonder how Jerry Springer would handle this family situation.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

Yeah, it was when Richard K. Massie interviewed her for his book.

Irrespective of Pauline law though, I think that it was a horrible, vindictive statement. Family is family irrespective of ambition.

I don't know a Richard Massie. Were you confusing him with Robert Massie by chance?

[Benjamin]

Photo gallery of the Romanovs at the Monaco wedding.
(which, while browing through, I noticed that the Lambrinos were there as well...wonder if they rubbed shoulders with Crown Princess Margarita and Prince Radu )

[MAfan]

Please note that several off topic posts about the dispute over the headship of the Imperial Family have been moved to the following thread:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...nts-11603.html

[XeniaCasaraghi]

I need to re-read Flight of the Romanovs. Right now I am attempting "Ella:Princess, Saint Martyr". But I do recall reading about all those things about Cyril's family.
I just finished reading "Romanovs The Final Chapter" and Maria actually had the insane idea that the bones of the people murdered in the Impatiev House be split into 3 parts!

[Cory]

Grand Duchess Maria just wants to be sure the bones discovered at Ekaterinemburg belong to her beloved relatives.