Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and other claimants to the Throne 2: Oct '06-Jun '08

[NotAPretender]

I think this line will be played out rather soon, myself.

After Georgy, who?

[BeatrixFan]

I'm sure Maria has a list of eligible girls for her son to marry....

[NotAPretender]

I don't doubt that she does, BeatrixFan.

Who would come after Georgy in the Head of Household role, should he not, er, reproduce.

[Russophile]

Originally Posted by NotAPretender

I don't doubt that she does, BeatrixFan.

Who would come after Georgy in the Head of Household role, should he not, er, reproduce.

Or would Maria pull an Elizabeth II and set the wife up with somebody like Elizabeth II did with Catherine the Great?

[branchg]

Originally Posted by NotAPretender

I think this line will be played out rather soon, myself.

After Georgy, who?

If George has no survivors, the succession would pass through Vladimir's sister, Grand Duchess Kira, to her grandson, Georg-Friedrich, Head of the House of Hohenzollern.

[BeatrixFan]

Now the romantic side of me wants that to happen because it sounds so glamorous but wouldn't that mean an end to the Romanov dynasty as the Russian heirs?

[branchg]

Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

Now the romantic side of me wants that to happen because it sounds so glamorous but wouldn't that mean an end to the Romanov dynasty as the Russian heirs?

Yes, although in reality, it probably will end with Maria's death since her son, George, has a very low profile and hasn't been seen as taking on his mother's mantle with the Church or the Government.

There is also the issue of George's German heritage. Even though he was raised as an Orthodox Romanov and is fluent in Russian, he is a Hohenzollern as the son of Prince Michael of Prussia. I cannot imagine the Russian Government or the people would be happy to embrace a Hohenzollern as Tsar after the memory of World War I and II.

[Al_bina]

It is possible that Grand Duke has got more interesting things to do than to “[take] on his mother's mantle with the Church or the Government” (brahcng, 2007).

[sinulord]

Originally Posted by branchg

Nicholas has no claim to the throne and is not a dynast under any interpretation of the Pauline Law. While it's true Dimitri Ilyinsky is the senior line male morganaut as the son of Paul Ilyinsky, he is also an American citizen and carries no titles of nobility.

There are no viable contenders other than Maria and George.

Exactly my point. I fully support Maria and George's claim. I was just stating that if anyone of the morganauts were to make a claim, it would be Dmitri. However, they do not have any right to claim at all, least of all Nicholas.

[Russophile]

Boy, she's a BIG GIRL!
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Resemblance?
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/peter.../elizabeth.jpg

[BeatrixFan]

She is big but it actually suits her. She seems to dress well for her size as well if that makes sense.

[Russophile]

It does make sense. I have seen people do that and it actually makes them look smaller, but they look very chic. I have seen big people squeeze themselves into something small and it makes them look sloppy. I have seen mother's my age run around with crop tops and their belly button piercing sticking out and pig tails as well. . . .

[BeatrixFan]

I can't see Maria doing that to be honest. It's interesting that she's got a Yulia braid. And she had it before Ms T. I think it suits her.

[Russophile]

Who is Ms. T?

[rome1453]

Ms. Julia Tymoshenko

[Al_bina]

If Grand Duchess happened to have the sense of style and some personality traits of the Ukrainian Prime Minister Timoshenko,the monarchy would have been restored in the Russian Federation.

[chancellor]

Privet to all on the forum,


Greetings for the 08 year, for me l will be celebrating tommorrow that is Sunday for New Year, Old Style !.

Thankyou to Russophile for putting the photo of the HIH at the Melbourne shrine, l was the designer of the programme for that day, l can tell you honestly, Russians were heartfully crying on the day, the service to remember the Russian Anzacs.... well it was from the deepest depths of the heart, the weather was magnificent, it was grand to march on the day, we had the Old Imperial Flag, the Current and presidential flag as well, the Victorian Police Band, had played God Save the Tsar, luckily l had found them the sheet music, the secretary of the Russian Embassy and Ambassador recieved the Order of St Anne and were happy to recieve it as well as the Archbishop of Australia and New Zealand '' Hilarion ''.

For all those whom are argueing about succession here ia an approved document from the Russian Orthodox Church on Succession.






http://www.riuo.org/SUCCESSION_ENGLISH.pdf


Russian Imperial Order Austraila

Russian Ball

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The Tour was exceptional and very well recieved, the dinner in Melbourne was surperb and the HIH spoke in both perfect Russian and English, the Venue was packed to the edges. A complete success and the Russian community were thrilled !.

l can only say that the majority of Russians , HIH was recieved as the Head of the Dynasty and the community came out in great numbers, here is the news letter from the Russian Welfare Society which contains many photos of the HIH Grand Duchess Maria, they are in the October News letter on the Russian Welfare site, you will clearly see in one photo the Russian Federation Ambassador and the First Secretary with HIH in the middle, the Ambassador has the Order of St Anne First Class and 3rd class for the secretary.

Al bina, the HIH is a very caring and delightfull person, when you meet HIH , HIH exudes warmth and generous in spirit under dificult circumsatances, the politicians you refer to have much wealth and huge back up to appear flashy and smart in public. If l was to comment on you from a distance with out meeting you or talking personally to you , would that be fair ?.

HIH proved a marvellous communicator and genuine in warmth on the Australian tour, we were absolutely stunned at the HIH ability to be emapthetic and caring, a wonderfull concern for the disadvantaged as well, dont believe all you read in the media.

Greetings to all

Imperial Regards

Chancellor Russian Imperial Union Order Australia

http://russianwelfare.org.au/pdf/october_2007.pdf


Russian Welfare Society

If you go to the Orders web site to the media page on our Australian web site and click photos then double click the links there are plenty of photos, l love the photo of HIH with Princess Mary , do notice HIH is placed at the forefront by all the other royals in the group photos inside the Cathederal, HRH prince Micheal of England ect

Photos Media

[Al_bina]

Originally Posted by chancellor

Al bina, the HIH is a very caring and delightfull person, when you meet HIH , HIH exudes warmth and generous in spirit under difficult circumstances, the politicians you refer to have much wealth and huge back up to appear flashy and smart in public. If l was to comment on you from a distance with out meeting you or talking personally to you , would that be fair ?.

Privet to you, dear chancellor! Happy Old New Year!
I believe that I have a full right to express my opinion. Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna may possess all these nice qualities described by you. Ms. Timoshenko may appear flashy and smart in public, yet she is a strong woman, who attains her goals. I believe that Ms. Timoshenko can exude warmth too. Finally, there is a huge difference between running the country and the Imperial house.

[chancellor]

Thank you Al bina,

I pray you have an excellent year !

This whole realm of Politics is so hard , the Poly in question had been guilty of betrayal previously, its interesting we rely so heavily on political figures, we need to look intrinsically and towards the word of God, in Orthodox Liturgy we find pearls of truth, instructions about living we are all fallible ! what can l say, you could describe the man of steel was strong but he instructed others to put Russ in hell ! l will sit on the fence about her.

Warmest Regards

Chancellor

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[Al_bina]

Dear chancellor,
It has been most kind of you to provide the link related to Russian monarchy. I have found several interesting articles. By the way, I am very fluent in Russian.