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11-05-2011, 07:13 PM
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New Robert Massie book
Catherine The Great: First She Read, Then She Ruled : NPR
"How did a German princess from a minor noble family become the empress of Russia, and win the praise of Voltaire, Montesquieu, Diderot and other giants of The Enlightenment? In Catherine the Great: Portrait of a Woman, Robert Massie explains the story of Catherine II, who ruled Russia for 34 years.
So how does a German teenager become the empress of Russia?"
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11-06-2011, 12:24 AM
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My dear Kasumi,
Thank you very much for posting the link to the radiocast and the article. I enjoyed both.
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03-03-2012, 01:05 PM
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03-30-2014, 04:59 PM
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In 1785, Catherine II took up playwriting.
Her efforts were produced at the palace, albeit under a pseudonym.
The epithet "Great" was bestowed on Catherine II by her own nobility in the third year of her reign.
With Empress Catherine II, by imperial manifesto issued on February 26, 1764, all ecclesiastical lands and property became state property. The church itself became a state institution.
Why did Alexis Bestuzhev, Empress Elizabeth's chancellor, oppose Grand Duke Peter's marriage to a German princess Sophia (Catherine)?
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02-27-2015, 06:52 PM
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08-25-2016, 11:05 PM
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 To put it simply, because he hated France, and Prussia and many other German states were allies with France. The other major alliance was Anglo-Austrian which he believed Russia benefited more joining. Catherine's father though a Prince of Anhalt, was a Prussian general. Alexis worried a German bride would tie them closer. Frederick of Prussia helped arrange the marriage to weaken Russia's link to Austria, and bring Alexis down.
Oddly Alexis later allied with Catherine, who brought him out of exile when empress. Odd he sided with the full German (Anhalt/Holstein) over the 1/2 Russian Peter (Russian/Holstein).
Peter oddly was meant to be King of Sweden. He was named heir by parliament to Frederick I, but Elizabeth chose him heir at the same time and renounced his claim to Sweden for him. Adolph Frederick was chosen king instead. Peter was great nephew of Charles VII. His paternal grandmother was Hedvig Sophia of Sweden, Charles' older sister. Hedvig was her brother's heir until she died, He was succeeded instead by younger sister Ulrika and her husband Frederick, and Hedvig's son was considered heir. Peter's dad died when he was he was small. Peter's mother left him in the care of his great-uncle Christian, prince of Eutin. Adolph Frederick, Christian's son was chosen king of Sweden in hopes of helping make an alliance with Russia since Adolph's father helped raise Peter. Wonder how different things would have been if Sweden claimed him first.
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09-11-2016, 03:25 AM
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Read the book on Catherine by Simon Seabag Montefiore.Well written,very good!
Saw,again,the exhibit on Catherine II at the Hermitage,..so so,a disappointment really
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07-22-2017, 02:16 AM
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Before Peter became the heir of Elisabeth he was possibly going to be King of Finland and Sweden? Was there a 3rd choice or was it just Emperor of Russia?
I like Catherine but I'm willing to take a 2nd look at Peter, considering his son I wonder if the father really was as bad as Catherine suggested.
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03-10-2018, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by XeniaCasaraghi
Before Peter became the heir of Elisabeth he was possibly going to be King of Finland and Sweden? Was there a 3rd choice or was it just Emperor of Russia?
I like Catherine but I'm willing to take a 2nd look at Peter, considering his son I wonder if the father really was as bad as Catherine suggested.
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Wasn't two options a lot already  No, Sweden/Finland and Russia were the only offers. Well he did technically have a second position. He was the Duke of Holstein-Gottorp, after the death of his dad when he was 11.
How Paul turned out is barely a reflection on his father. Even the worst of men have good children and the other way around. Although most records of his behavior were from his wife's perspective.
Some of the reforms Peter enacted, many of which were over turned, did show a side that seemed to care for his people. He made it a crime to kill one's serf. And he improved their rights. He disbanded the secret police, seeing it as heinous for its actions. He seemed to have been inspired by the work of his grandfather Peter I.
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With Empress Catherine II, by imperial manifesto issued on February 26, 1764, all ecclesiastical lands and property became state property. The church itself became a state institution.
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This was one of the things she seemed to agree with her husband on. Peter had actually started the initiative to take the church lands. He had been inspired by his grandfather Peter I. It passed under Catherine's rule though.
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10-14-2018, 08:12 PM
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During Catherine II's first week on the throne, couriers were riding to European capitals with assurances that the new Empress wished to live in peace with all foreign powers.
Even before she learned of Peter III's demise, Catherine II showed those who had put her on the throne with promotions, decorations, money, and property. Gregory Orlov was given fifty thousand rubbles.
In 1767 Empress Catherine II announced that she would make a voyage down the Volga. She would cruise through the heartland of Old Russia. The voyage was on a grand scale. Traveling south down the Volga River, Catherine marveled at the wealth of nature along its banks.
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09-23-2020, 05:19 AM
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Portrait of Catherine II at the The Swedish National Portrait Gallery at Gripsholm Castle, painted by Alexander Roslin.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFb5oxBpMpC/
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09-23-2020, 02:37 PM
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A very strong willed Lady. I like her. One thing other it must have taken a long time to get her dressed,there are lots of layers of cloth.
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12-04-2021, 07:10 PM
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Well, at least the younger Empress was very much influenced by the Enlightenment from Western Europe. She was also in correspondence with Voltaire and somewhat tried to bring the ideals of Enlightenment into Russia. So, this might be the reason for Voltaire's compliment.
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12-13-2022, 12:08 PM
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02-25-2023, 12:48 PM
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Thaddeus Kosciusko refused the sword offered by Empress Catherine II following the unsuccessful rebellion that led to the partition of Poland
http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tha...-55948064.html
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