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Old 04-16-2017, 09:02 PM
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actually maria's position wouldn't change if her son married a commoner because her argument has always been that the other romanovs couldn't succeed to the headship of the imperial house because they had contracted or are the children of a marriage that wasn't approved by the head of the house she can declare the marriage of her son as dynastically because she is the head of the imperial house the same argument that he father made when he married princess Leonida he said as the head of the house at the time he approved his marriage as dynastically .
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Old 04-17-2017, 08:44 AM
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But that was the marriage of a Grand Duchess and her children had no succession rights in Russia. What i meant is that there was never a marriage of a GRand Duke to a member of a mediatized House where the marriage was approved as dynastic.
True, but it was not an impossible marriage, unlike the marriage with a non-mediatized noblewoman or commoner which would be impossible from the start. The marriage between Imperial and mediatized family would have to have only Emperor's approval, while with others it would be fail from the start.

So, since Maria sees herself as the Head of the family, if her son would find a mediatized Princess or a Countess, it would be "good enough".

Similar situation was with former Prussian heir, Prince Louis Ferdinand, father of Prince Georg Friedrich married daughter of only "mediatized" Prince zu Castell-Rüdenhausen. It was seen as equal, but was somewhat considered a misalliance, because Louis Ferdinand was the heir.
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Old 04-17-2017, 10:16 AM
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It would be sad to do as his Mother did marring a Royal have a Child and then Divorce!

I think such a Wedding happened in the Bragration Famliy ?
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Old 04-17-2017, 02:10 PM
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Well, Maria and her mother Leonida were not the easiest persons to handle with, I think. Maria's formidable shadow hangs over Georg(y) and that will not be helpful. But Georg(y) is still much younger than Albert de Monaco and Philippe de Belgique when they engaged into marriage, so he still has plenty of time to make his own choice... ;-)

The Bagration-Bagration marriage indeed did reunite the two branches of the family. Judging from pictures that was also the aim of the marriage. Rumours stated that Princess Anna Bagration divorvced her first husband to marry Prince David Bagration only for the sake of the union of the two rival branches in the royal family, so apparently especially Anna was willing to take quite a few steps (to divorce, to remarry, to divorce) for her House's aspirations.

In the meantime the couple's son is the only Prince in the whole House of his generation. His father Prince David has an elder brother, Prince Irakly, but he is not married and seems to have given up his dynastical claims in favour of his younger brother, seen the re-unification of the two branches.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:51 AM
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The Bagration-Bagration marriage indeed did reunite the two branches of the family. Judging from pictures that was also the aim of the marriage. Rumours stated that Princess Anna Bagration divorvced her first husband to marry Prince David Bagration only for the sake of the union of the two rival branches in the royal family, so apparently especially Anna was willing to take quite a few steps (to divorce, to remarry, to divorce) for her House's aspirations.
What is most interesting is that Princess Anna's first husband is also descendant of the Bagration Kings of Georgia:

Grigoriy Malania is a descendant of the last King of Georgia...here is his line:


King Giorgi XII of Georgia,lived from 1746-1800
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Princess Nina of Georgia,lived from 1772-1847
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Princess Mariam Dadiani of Mingrelia,born in 1794
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Princess Elizabeth Shervashidze of Guria
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Giorgi Mgaloblishvili
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Akaki Mgaloblishvili
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Giorgi Mgaloblishvili
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Nana Mgaloblishvili
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Grigory Malania,born in 1970 = Princess Anna Bagration-Gruzinska,born in 1976
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