A potential bride for The Grand Duke Georgi

[Alexey 1904]

I would like to say there may be 5 Catholic reigning houses in Europe, but only Belgium and Spain are monarchies. Liechtenstein and Monaco are principalities and Luxembourg is a Grand Duchy. So, I would assume those 3 latter places have their own rules about whom their princes may marry.

[USCtrojan]

Originally Posted by Alexey 1904

I would like to say there may be 5 Catholic reigning houses in Europe, but only Belgium and Spain are monarchies. Liechtenstein and Monaco are principalities and Luxembourg is a Grand Duchy. So, I would assume those 3 latter places have their own rules about whom their princes may marry.

Yes, but those catholic brides would have to convert to marry the Grand Duke.

[AristoCat]

I wonder what life with him would be like. I wonder if his mother would insist on living with them and presiding over the household, relegating the wife to a secondary position of importance and precedence.

[NGalitzine]

I wondered that as well. I suspect it would take a strong willed woman to stand up to mother in law Maria. It would probably be easier if she had her own fortune, and of course even easier if she was a born princess and Orthodox and maybe a good amount of Russian bloodline too.

[COUNTESS]

I still say, what difference does it make. Nice man, has a job, so he may a a nice future. Other than that and whatever it takes to ride on a subway, I don't know the price, he has very little to offer, unless you are very wealthy and want to buy a title. Then you might find far more appealing people.

[Countessmeout]

Russian, rich and a princess in her own right? May not be so easy to find.

Russian and royal, he could look to the other branches of the Romanoff family, not sure if any are rich. The other contender to the throne has three daughters but they are all married and a granddaughter is divorced and in a relationship. There are a number of princes who married morgantically, but their children have titles in some cases, and royal blood. There is the Duke of Holstein-Gotorp (product of several generations of morganatic marriages but his grandfather was a first cousin of the Nicholas II I believe) who has a few daughters who seem to be the right age.

[Spheno]

Originally Posted by AristoCat

I wonder what life with him would be like. I wonder if his mother would insist on living with them and presiding over the household, relegating the wife to a secondary position of importance and precedence.

George lives and works in Switzerland, Maria Vladimirovna lives in Madrid.

[nithsdale]

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

If they have money, perhaps, otherwise, why do you think they have the choice. There are few real monarchies left. Belgium, Luxembourg, Spain are the only Catholic Monarchies and there is no one there for her to marry. The rest of the titles exist because of the kindness of the nation or the imagination of the bearer.

Very incorrect statement. There are many reigning catholic monarchies in Europe that has brides and very many non-reigning but still royal catholic houses that can provide a bride: Portugal, France, Two Sicilies, Austria, Bavaria, Wurtemberg, Italy, Saxony, Hohenzollern, Baden, Saxe-Coburg (younger line) and many others

[nithsdale]

Originally Posted by branchg

The equal marriage requirement is silly in today's world and all of the reigning European houses have long dispensed with it. With the exception of the Prussian Royal House, none of today's heirs or pretenders have married equally.

With the exception of the Prussian Royal House, none of today's heirs or pretenders have married equally.

It is incorrect - VERY MANY mambers of Non-reigning german royal or princely houses STILL marry equally!

[Storylover]

Who are they, by the way???

[nithsdale]

Originally Posted by Storylover

Who are they, by the way???

They are (only some of them, actually more):

Carl, Duke of Württemberg and his elder son
Max, Markgrave of Baden and his brother
Georg Friedrich, Prince of Prussia (many of Prussians now marry equally)
Anton-Gunter, Duke of Oldenburg and his son and brother
Prince Hans-Adam of Liechtenstein and his elder son Alois
Christoph, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein
Ernst August, Pr of Hannover
Archduke Georg of Austria, Otto's son (many of Habsburgs now marry equally)
Pr Ferdinand zur Lippe-Weißenfeld

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Alexey 1904

...there may be 5 Catholic reigning houses in Europe, but only Belgium and Spain are monarchies.

All five are monarchies: two Kingdoms, one Grand Duchy and two Principalities.

Originally Posted by branchq

With the exception of the Prussian Royal House, none of today's heirs or pretenders have married equally.

Not forgetting Alois, the Hereditary Prince of Liechtenstein, who married HRH Princess Sophie of Bavaria, Duchess in Bavaria.

[BrazilianEmpire]

Originally Posted by nithsdale

Very incorrect statement. There are many reigning catholic monarchies in Europe that has brides and very many non-reigning but still royal catholic houses that can provide a bride: Portugal, France, Two Sicilies, Austria, Bavaria, Wurtemberg, Italy, Saxony, Hohenzollern, Baden, Saxe-Coburg (younger line) and many others

Also, there are plenty of Catholic Princesses in Brazil.

- HRH Princess Amélia of Brazil (b. 1984), fifth in the Line of Succession to the Throne.

- HRH Princess Maria Gabriela of Brazil (b. 1989), sixth in the Line of Succession.

- HRH Princess Maria de Fátima of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1988).

- HRH Princess Maria Manuela of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1989).

- HRH Princess Maria da Glória of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1982).

- HRH Princess Luiza Carolina of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1984).

- HRH Princess Maria Eleonora of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1984).

- HRH Princess Maria Tereza of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1984).

- HRH Princess Maria Beatriz of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1990).

- HRH Princess Gabrielle of Orleans-Braganza (b. 1989).

[COUNTESS]

There are all non-starters, as they may be Catholic, they made hold titles by the kindness of their governments, but they have no real standing in the real world, except for Lichtenstein, Belgium, Spain and Luxembourg. Whom would you recommend from the existing monarchies?

[BrazilianEmpire]

Originally Posted by COUNTESS

There are all non-starters, as they may be Catholic, they made hold titles by the kindness of their governments, but they have no real standing in the real world.

Last time I checked, marriages were based on love, not on "real standing in the real world."

[COUNTESS]

Oh, you are quite right. I have no argument for that. It was you and the "equal marriages" stuff, that through me. All these young people deserve loving spouses. The day of arranged marriages for treaty purposes, are long gone. It doesn't matter whether they have honorary titles or not, they should find partners who love and cherish them for whom they are.

[Spheno]

What do you think about lady Gabriella as potential bride? :)
Lady Gabriella Windsor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Baroness of Books]

Wouldn't Lady Gabriella have to be willing to convert to the Orthodox religion? While her mother is Roman Catholic, she's of the Anglican faith.

[COUNTESS]

A joke. She would run. She is a lovely, independent woman and, I do not believe, interest in becoming a bride to a man she is not suited to, and is pledge to a non-existent throne. They both deserve people who can make them happy.

[Spheno]

Originally Posted by Baroness of Books

Wouldn't Lady Gabriella have to be willing to convert to Catholicism? While her mother is Roman Catholic, she's of the Anglican faith.

Roman Catholic???
Russian Imperial Family is Orthodox one.