A potential bride for The Grand Duke Georgi - Page 11

AristoCat · #**201** 10-06-2011, 09:43 PM

Good point; when you think about it, it would be a sick irony in it's own way.

Storylover · #**202** 10-07-2011, 05:55 AM

I think it is Maria V's dream to bring monarchy to Russia back and she is doing her best in this respect. At least, she wants to be recognized again as an only party for it. And I believe every possibility arouses she would definately snatch it! And her son is such an asset for that purpose: look, he is a real prince, there is no a slightest commoner among them. She cannot be opposed to Windsor clan as she herself had married a German prince long ago whose ancestors helped to destroy the mighty Russian monarchy!
I guess she would be very glad any TRUE royal bride appear on her horizont...

AristoCat · #**203** 10-17-2011, 03:00 AM

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I think it is Maria V's dream to bring monarchy to Russia back and she is doing her best in this respect. At least, she wants to be recognized again as an only party for it. And I believe every possibility arouses she would definately snatch it! And her son is such an asset for that purpose: look, he is a real prince, there is no a slightest commoner among them.

I think that Maria would, if she found a potential royal bride, would end up doing all she could to ensure that a princess would be happy to marry her son and stay married. As a husband, I think Georgi would actually be nice, since he is not going out and living an irresponsible party lifestyle and he isn't at all carrying on with numerous women who bring him nothing but trouble. He has had a stint in the European parliament, works at a company in Russia, and accompanies his mother to social events and enjoys a lowkey life for a man who is pretender to a prominent throne and also seems ambitious professionally. When you think about it, even if he weren't a prince he would still be a great catch.

Storylover · #**204** 10-17-2011, 05:14 AM

No question about that! I very much agree.
My point is, Maria is very determined to make her voice heard in Russia and this is really remarkable. She is a true Romanov. I only wish her son found a really good bride worthy of him and here is a big problem, there are no princesses left in Russia...and those abroad? I don't think they are interested any more in foreign ones as they think only of their own happiness and ready to marry a butler or a gardener or whoever...

COUNTESS · #**205** 10-17-2011, 02:43 PM

That's because they realize that all the "royalty" stuff is made up and of no real subtance and they want a life, like any young person. The days of "they" are more special than anyone else is gone. The butler is just as important.

Storylover · #**206** 10-17-2011, 03:05 PM

Dear Countess,
You are so right! Only the second half of me tells the opposite. It is not easy to throw all this 'made up' staff away, just because there is so much in it...We are all a little paralised by the 'monarchy' effect... this is a fairy tale we want to follow, and do not want to be disappointed...

COUNTESS · #**207** 10-17-2011, 05:31 PM

I just thought it was unfair to say the "princesses", today would marry a butler, gardener, sounded so pretentious. This, " I am above you" stuff is foolish.

AristoCat · #**208** 10-17-2011, 07:29 PM

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That's because they realize that all the "royalty" stuff is made up and of no real subtance and they want a life, like any young person. The days of "they" are more special than anyone else is gone. The butler is just as important.

The problem is, they aren't getting involved with the butler, who works hard. They are (along with princes) getting involved with the jet setter, the playboy, guys who don't appreciate them as human beings, but as tickets to a socially prominent life. I think for Georgi a princess would be a lot better since a princess already has a title in her own right and wouldn't gain anything by marrying him. He needs someone who helps him really thrive and someone he can be a good huband to.

COUNTESS · #**209** 10-17-2011, 08:23 PM

Maybe, he doesn't want a wife.

NotAPretender · #**210** 10-17-2011, 08:24 PM

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I don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Lady Gabriella Windsor the great granddaughter of George V? The same George V who refused to offer his cousin, Nicholas 11 and his family asylum in England for fear of other Russian hating countries attacking. After all, World War 1 was still happening when the Russian Revolution of 1917 started, wasn't it? I think Maria V. would definitely blow a gasket or have a coronary if her precious Georg and a Windsor were paired. But, that's just my opinion!

Oh, I don't know about that. Maria was awfully chummy with the Soviet regime - the successor organization that wiped most of the Romanovs out. (Then again, she might be grateful to them for putting her in the position of Pretender.) I don't think she's all that choosy when it come to picking a powerful ally; the past be damned, as long as her interests are served.

I'd like to think that Georgi would be unfettered and unrestricted in his choice: butler, gardener, princess or vagabond as his life partner. As AristoCat has said, insofar as it seems possible to be, he comes across as unpretentious. Can't force a duck to be a puppy, so if his choice of life and life partner aren't geared to ambitions of bygone days, he might end up a richer man in happiness.

AristoCat · #**211** 10-17-2011, 09:45 PM

I think he stated that he would like to marry a princess and I think he could find happiness with a princess. Commoner women don't have the monopoly on making a prince happy in love. If any woman passes muster, she would have to be special and very, very decent for Maria to trust with her son. I bet his future wife will have to undergo a background check worthy of a CIA level background check.

NGalitzine · #**212** 10-17-2011, 11:55 PM

Well the Romanoffs are not terribly wealthy so an injection of cash would not be amiss as well as an equal title.
How old is Marias half sister, Helen I think, anyway? She is the one with the money.

Benjamin · #**213** 10-18-2011, 06:33 AM

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How old is Marias half sister, Helen I think, anyway? She is the one with the money.

She is 76...but as she and Maria have had a falling out it may be that Helen has no plans to leave anything to George.

AristoCat · #**214** 10-18-2011, 02:45 PM

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Well the Romanoffs are not terribly wealthy so an injection of cash would not be amiss as well as an equal title..

Well, I am sure that there is someone out there who is good enough for her son. How much do you want to bet that Maria will hire some of her KBG connections to do a thorough background check?

COUNTESS · #**215** 10-18-2011, 03:52 PM

I think whomever is marry into this lot, should do a background check on them.

Storylover · #**216** 10-18-2011, 06:33 PM

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I think he stated that he would like to marry a princess and I think he could find happiness with a princess. Commoner women don't have the monopoly on making a prince happy in love. If any woman passes muster, she would have to be special and very, very decent for Maria to trust with her son. I bet his future wife will have to undergo a background check worthy of a CIA level background check.

I do like that!!!

AristoCat · #**217** 10-18-2011, 08:08 PM

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I think whomever is marry into this lot, should do a background check on them.

That would actually be a very smart thing to take care of.

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I do like that!!!

Thanks. It would be nice to see a prince marry a princess taht will one day become a Consort. It's not like a princess is such a horrible thing. There is no reason that Georgi should be required to marry a commoner.

COUNTESS · #**218** 10-18-2011, 08:18 PM

He is not require to marry anyone. And, he is not a "catch".

BeatrixFan · #**219** 10-25-2011, 07:31 AM

I won't comment on the "catch" thing because beauty is in the eye of the beholder but of course he is required to get married. 1) He's an Orthodox Christian which values the state of marriage very highly indeed. He's supposed to marry Orthodox and raise his children as such, just as Catholics are required to do. 2) He's an only child in a family that needs succession and from what he's said in the past, he is in total agreement with that view. And therefore he's required to marry and have a child. But there's no rush for him at all. Crown Princess Victoria didn't marry until she was a little older than he is now.

NotAPretender · #**220** 10-25-2011, 08:07 AM

One hopes that in this day and age, the man is allowed to choose his life partner to be from any background and to be of any profession - or gender for that matter.

Dynastically speaking, it's a wash whether he marries "royally" or not. I simply do not see that his choice of mate will either advance his mother's Imperial dreams (or his own, assuming he has vested himself in it) or completely negate them. Maria V has said that she will make provisions for him to marry and remain dynastically intact which of course is the same kind of action that her father took and which remains a shady twist. The effect of doing so will just weaken their "case" ever further, and given how murky it is already, wouldn't really be a great strategic move.

A lot depends on whether Georgi wants to be the next dog in the manger, or if it's time to realize that the manger has long vanished, and that both he and his mother have been resting in air.

I hope more than anything else, that he finds a longtime companion in life who allows him to find peace within himself. The stakes are actually very low when it comes to whether the product of any marriage would be in any better position to "inherit" Russia, than was his mother or himself. But the stakes of human happiness are always high. Georgi need only look at the rapidity of his parents' marriage and its acrimonious end and aftermath to see the pitfalls of that situation.

Team Georgi. Marry who you choose, and refuse any nebulous dynastic "upgrades" to your mate's potential base-born status. You can still contribute to Russia in the manner that you choose, if any, as Georgi Romanov. Use as your example Otto Von Hapsburg, who worked tirelessly for Austria without Royal pretentions or without claiming more than was permssible under law. (And Otto's Imperial position, unlike Georgi's is, was absolutely unassailable dynastically)