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06-16-2005, 09:47 AM
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The Qajar Dynasty and Imperial Succession after the Pahlavis
Does anyone know who is the current claiment of the Qajar Dynasty of Iran?
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06-16-2005, 10:34 AM
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Never heard of this dynasty. Could someone enlighten me about this dynasty?
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06-16-2005, 11:47 AM
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Hi La La,
This is very brief, they were the last rulers of Perisa of turish desent (Iran) from the late 1700's to 1925 but had lot's of problems with corruption the russians, brits had more control over the gvt. and were overthrown with help of Reza Kahn (pre Pahlavi name change) who was the last shah's father. I'm sure others will fill in with more information.
Wittykitty:)
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08-15-2005, 10:42 AM
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Thanks, cute girl. Is it only in Farsi?
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08-17-2005, 05:01 PM
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Thank you cute girl. For some odd reason, I can't read more of the articles.  Nothing shows up when I click on "articles", on the menu. The only option that is working for me is "home" which navigates me back to the main page. But thanks anyway. :o
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09-27-2005, 12:50 AM
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The Qajars
Here is another site which provides a brief bit of information on the Qajar rulers of Persia. The arts benefited during their rule. . . a very elaborate style of portraiture developed. Hence unusual, stylistic paintings of Shahs, princes, and various court ladies. I believe what is considered classic Persian Music today also to be from the Qajar era. This extensive family lives all over the world and has produced some very gifted writers, scientists, doctors and scholars.
www.angelfire.com/az/Kadjar/page5.html
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10-28-2005, 11:27 AM
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Hello,
I just read the question: "who is the current claimant of the Qajar Dynasty of Iran?".
His name is Prince Ali Qajar. He is descendant of Mohamad-Hassan Mirza and not Ahmad Shah, as his Majesty had no son.
Mohamad-Hassan Mirza, was Ahmad Shah’s brother and was the crown prince.
As put in other answers, this dynasty was replaced by Pahlavi Dynasty on 1925.
Iman
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12-20-2005, 11:42 PM
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One book that I read on Iran was a bio done by the Shah's (twin?) sister that mentions the Qajars as still part of the Iranian nobility. There is a paragraph on a scandal involved her or her son and one of the members of that Qajar family I think in an airport or involving controlled substances. I'll have to find that book but I think is called the Man in the Mirror or something like that.
I found it in an used books store and there was little mention of the Princess' sister in law Farah.
Qajar Dynasty
Qajar Kings:
Agha Mohammad Khan 1794 - 1797
Fath'Ali Shah 1797 - 1834
Mohammad Shah 1834 - 1848
Naser o-Din Shah 1848 - 1896
Mozaffar o-Din Shah 1896 - 1907
Mohammed Ali Shah 1907 - 1909
Ahmed Shah 1909 - 1925
The Qajar class structure
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12-20-2005, 11:51 PM
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The family is still around: Qajar (Kadjar) News
Anyone in France that would like to attend to the Kadjar party in June 2006? Oops, I forgot, is for family and friends only.
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12-21-2005, 06:08 PM
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The Qajar era was full of misery for Iranian people due to some unqualified kings.They lost a big part of Iran during wars with Russia.During that time, religion influenced the politics so much.
Qajar kings' passions were traveling and women. They made big harems but no developement in industry and economy .
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12-22-2005, 11:39 PM
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Anyone knows if there was any attempt to return to Iran after the Shah & Family went into exile?
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12-23-2005, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Toledo
Anyone knows if there was any attempt to return to Iran after the Shah & Family went into exile?
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If you mean Qajar family, they were used to select heir to throne until recent years. But I don't think the new generation of this family are thinking of reigning in Iran.The most important thing is that Iranian don't want this family as Iran's kings again, as they don't have a good memory of them.
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12-23-2005, 10:51 PM
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Iwona, thanks.
These Qajars look like the Iranian equivalent of the current French Bourbons and their quarrels for titles, while the Pahlavi clan could be compared to the Bonapartes as the last ruling family who still has the same claims.
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03-18-2006, 09:32 PM
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One of the most famous Qajar rulers was Nasser-es-Din Shah, (1851-1896). he had an excellent Primer Minister, named Amir Kabir, who saddly was condamned to death by the Shah himself. The reasons behind this, remains very dark and not well known.
Nasser-es-Din was also known for his famous travels to Europe, and his books about them. Maybe he wasn't a great ruler, but I love his way of writing. I have one of these books and it is delightful to read. he was a very curious, interesting man. He was murdered by a baha'i when he was visiting a shrine.
His daughter, Taj-al Saltana was a feminist and wrote a book about her life at the Zenana (Harem). The book is named "Crown of Anguish". I highly reccommend it, as I reccomend a good biography of Nasser-es-Din, by Abbas Amanat: "Pivot of The Universe".
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06-23-2006, 05:34 AM
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Nice pic, Aryan! If you visit the Qajar sites in the net, you'll discover many photos like the ones you posted. The Qajars, as many families now does, meet every year in some European castle or United States ressort . One of the principal family members is the Prince Manouchehr Malekmansour Eskandiary, who is part of a Monarchist Society in America. He had an internet site (that I think now is gone :( ) to explain people why a Monarchy is better that other kind of governements (of course, not absolute Monarchy, but constitutional one). I suppose that his Monarchist Society (that is settled in America) still keeps working.
Prince Manouchehr is an experts in Politics and wrote lots of articles in www.iranian.com . They are interesting to read. He is not a Qajar-self-indulgent. He had lots of things to criticize about his family rule in the past.
Many Qajars still lives in Iran as common, simple people and nobody does any harm on them. Other Qajars are in Azherbaijan and other ex-Soviet-Republics. They lived there even under the Communist rule, and they were not bothered. Some of them still are in other European countries and in the USA's. The iranian Sha's P.M Mr. Mossadegh from the Jebbe Melli Party was a Qajar for her mother blood. I guess she was a Qajar princess. In the other hand, the other Shah's- P.M, Amir Abbas Hoveyda was himself a descendant of the famous Amir Kabir...
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05-17-2008, 05:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iansari
Hello, I just read the question: "who is the current claimant of the Qajar Dynasty of Iran?".
His name is Prince Ali Qajar.
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HIH Prince Soltan Ali Mirza Qajar to be precise.
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