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Wasn't Soroya considered his true love? He supposedly loved her until the end. Not that he didn't love Farah, but Soroya was the true love I read somewhere that I can't remember.
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Wasn't Soroya considered his true love? He supposedly loved her until the end. Not that he didn't love Farah, but Soroya was the true love I read somewhere that I can't remember.
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the magazine Royal Romances said something like that as well, but I would totally agree with the source, the Shah wasn't to keen with his arranged marriage to Princess Fawzia, and I have a suspicion that his marriage to Farah was sort of a marriage of convenience or something like the JFK and Jackie relationship (you know they had an agreement of some sort). But with Soraya, I'm certain it was true love.
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12-25-2005, 07:20 AM
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Not entirely sure about the JFK/Jackie analogy-she really loved him despite his near-constant womanizing (and supposedly Old Joe the father-in-law offered her $1mil US not to divorce Jack and thus help his presidential ambitions) but when JFK was killed she was truly devastated and I believe he was, despite his faults, the love of her life. Maybe there are similarities between the Shah and Farah in that she knew of his infidelities but loved him anyway. I would be very interested to know more of the background of the Shah and Soraya's marriage.
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12-26-2005, 07:32 PM
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01-06-2006, 05:15 PM
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Well I probably assumed he was talkign abou this mom and another relative.:o
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I the movie there is a prominent role for a certain Princess Shamira/Samira, who is supposed to be a cousin of the shah. Can anyone tell me more about her or is she fictional?
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I the movie there is a prominent role for a certain Princess Shamira/Samira, who is supposed to be a cousin of the shah. Can anyone tell me more about her or is she fictional?
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If you are talking about the Soraya movie, then yes Princess Samira is fictional. There is much about the mini series that was fictionalized such as the part when Soraya slaps the Shah. I believe that Samira was fictionalized to demonstrate Princess Ashraf, without really throwing it in her face.
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01-09-2006, 05:23 AM
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... on the other hand I was also wondering why Ashraf was not portraied..
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Perhaps they were afraid of doing that!!!!!!! 
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I agree, since she is one of the last Pahlavis alive who were depicted in the movie.
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01-19-2006, 10:24 PM
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This is a website created by Golnar Bakhtiar, a distant cousin of Soraya. They have nice photos of the princess.
http://www.bakhtiarifamily.com/sorayaphotos.php
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01-27-2006, 04:00 AM
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This Thread of Soraya was fantastic!!! Thanks to everyone who has contibuted! I have read the autobiography "Palace of Solitude" translated into english, and i must say that it was written as if her life was a beautifull poem!It was actually by chance that i came accross this book not knowing who Soraya was, and now i am a true fan of hers! as a result, I have been readind many biographies of middle-eastern women of stature! i've read books on the Shah of iran, Empress Farah's recent biography, The princess trilogy about a Saudi Royal family member , La Prissoniere about morrocco's royal court and now im reading Maharani's about the raj's princesses in India.I am completely facinated by the Extraordinary lives that these women have lead and extremely fascinated with the extravagance of their surrounds.Thanks alot! I would like to know if their are any other books that anyone of you can recommend in particular biographies on Royal Exiles of the middle East? Is there a book of Princess Fawzia of Iran? There is a book on er marriage to the sha which i would like to get a copy of , any idea where?
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i also read her autobiography in french, and it was written like a poem. there were many sad moments in her life, and yet she still had dignity and moved on. she was the most beautiful princess ever and her beauty and emerald green eyes will be remembered for all time. shah always loved soraya and never stopped loving her. she also loved him back and never stopped loving him. :)
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01-27-2006, 12:40 PM
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i also read her autobiography in french, and it was written like a poem. there were many sad moments in her life, and yet she still had dignity and moved on. she was the most beautiful princess ever and her beauty and emerald green eyes will be remembered for all time. shah always loved soraya and never stopped loving her. she also loved him back and never stopped loving him. :)
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I totally agree with you, if there was love like that left in the world.
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This Thread of Soraya was fantastic!!! Thanks to everyone who has contibuted! I have read the autobiography "Palace of Solitude" translated into english, and i must say that it was written as if her life was a beautifull poem!It was actually by chance that i came accross this book not knowing who Soraya was, and now i am a true fan of hers! as a result, I have been readind many biographies of middle-eastern women of stature! i've read books on the Shah of iran, Empress Farah's recent biography, The princess trilogy about a Saudi Royal family member , La Prissoniere about morrocco's royal court and now im reading Maharani's about the raj's princesses in India.I am completely facinated by the Extraordinary lives that these women have lead and extremely fascinated with the extravagance of their surrounds.Thanks alot! I would like to know if their are any other books that anyone of you can recommend in particular biographies on Royal Exiles of the middle East? Is there a book of Princess Fawzia of Iran? There is a book on er marriage to the sha which i would like to get a copy of , any idea where?
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There really isnt an official book about Princess Fawzia, however you might want to grab some biographies about her brother King Faroukh since all siblings were very close and your bound to get some info about her childhood. I have posted a lot of photos of the Princess's wedding to the Shah in her thread, have you seen it? The book I retreived it from is very hard to find, but I was lucky enough to check it out from the Princton University Library, which is probably the only library in the North East that had it.
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This is a picture I found from an old french magazine, no wonder she was dubbed a sad empress, she clearly looks so sad greeting these people. Can anyone identify the man standing behind her?
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3...Malka/pic1.jpg
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Wonderfully written short bio about the Princess's life. It some wonderful, never before seen photos. Written by the Princess's cousin, who in collaboration with other family members was able to write this and share it with us.
http://www.bakhtiarifamily.com/soraya.php
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Soraya was a beatiful person...But I'm always asking to myself is the Shah and her lived a love story, or if their marriage was a state reason, after all. Soraya claimed to have loved Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, but we'll never know if this was true. As for him , the Shah was a sphinx in all things related to his feelings. We don't know if he loved Princess Fawzia, or Princess Soraya...However, I think that he was very happy married to Farah Diba. This is noticiable in all pics they appears together. You don't see him happy as well with his former two wives...
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Soraya was a beatiful person...But I'm always asking to myself is the Shah and her lived a love story, or if their marriage was a state reason, after all. Soraya claimed to have loved Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, but we'll never know if this was true. As for him , the Shah was a sphinx in all things related to his feelings. We don't know if he loved Princess Fawzia, or Princess Soraya...However, I think that he was very happy married to Farah Diba. This is noticiable in all pics they appears together. You don't see him happy as well with his former two wives...
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I find it contrary, I think he was the happiest while married to Soraya. His marriage to Farah, although a sucessful one, was nothing compared to the love between him and Soraya because it was of 'first love' quality in which all innocence prevailed. They were divorced because of reasons of state. And when he announced it to the public, he openly cried while doing so. Pictures are like illusions, and can be very deceiving. Remember Princess Diana and Prince Charles? Everyone thought they were so happy, while having no idea of what was going beneath the fairy-tale.
Throughout their marriage, the Shah and Farah were always haunted by rumours that they were thinking of divorce. When he was married to Soraya, all you heard were stories of how much they loved each other and how much his duties of a King burdened that love.
But then again, its just my opinion.
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