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11-04-2020, 06:11 AM
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They were called the Dark Wurtenberg because they 5 had Dark Hair. They are 5 and no Children.
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11-04-2020, 08:33 AM
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According to wikipedia the late Dss Margarethe (Css de Chevigny) had an illegitemate son in 1962 named Patrick de la Lanne. Supposedly the father was Robin de la Lanne-Mirrlees, a Scotsman who was an inspiration for the character of James Bond. Mr. de la Lanne was raised by his foster parents in Oldenburg.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_de_La_Lanne
The 2012 obituary of Robin de la Lanne-Mirrlees in Scottish newspaper The Herald says the following:
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Count Robin, Prince of Coronata, died in Stornoway after a long period of ill-health, and is survived by 50-year-old Patrick de la Lanne, mayor of the north German town of Delmenhort, his natural son through his long-term relationship with Margarethe, Duchess of Wurttemberg, and three grandchildren.
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https://www.heraldscotland.com/opini...anne-mirrlees/
Marlene Koenig mentioned it on her blog as well:
https://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blog...nnections.html
Mr. de la Lanne was not included in the death advertisement in Le Figaro that appeared after the death of Dss Margarethe:
https://coronanachrichten.files.word...-von-wc3bcrtte
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11-04-2020, 10:14 AM
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Yes , you are always right Marengo. I forgot Dss Margarethe's natural Son.
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11-04-2020, 05:44 PM
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What is everybody talking about? I had thought that the head of the family is Duke Carl. I do not know who Duke Ferdinand Eugen was.
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Ferdinand Eugen is Carl's paternal first cousin.
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11-04-2020, 09:08 PM
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Yes. Duke Ferdinand Eugen was not the head of the family and it is not a question of who takes over in the family.
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11-05-2020, 06:08 AM
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Duke Carl is the Head of the Royal House , the second Heir passed away in a car crash and it will be his Grandson who will take over.
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12-12-2020, 11:03 AM
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The Greeting Card for Christmas 2020 and New Year 2021 from Duke Carl, The Duke of Württemberg and Princess Diane, The Duchess of Württemberg.
https://scontent.fath3-4.fna.fbcdn.n...ee&oe=5FFB34C6
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12-13-2020, 03:46 AM
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Duke Carl is the Head of the Royal House , the second Heir passed away in a car crash and it will be his Grandson who will take over.
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Why do you call Friedrich the second heir?did I miss something? thanks.
He was their firstborn son.Carl himself was the second son and became head after his brother had "abdicated" due to his marriage. Now Philipp who is the only son of Friedrich was named to take over, due to Carls's bad health possibly very soon.
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12-13-2020, 03:54 AM
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Why do you call Friedrich the second heir?did I miss something? thanks.
He was their firstborn son.Carl himself was the second son and became head after his brother had "abdicated" due to his marriage. Now Philipp who is the only son of Friedrich was named to take over, due to Carls's bad health possibly very soon.
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It is Duke Wilhelm who is the son of the late Duke Friedrich. It was earlier this year announced that Wilhelm will get business experience before taking over the Hofkammer business. Until then his uncle Duke Michael will take over this position.
And anyway it was always Wilhelm who was to become the Head of the Royal House one day as the only son of the oldest son but of course it was expected that he would follow his father rather than his grandfather.
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12-13-2020, 06:57 AM
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Great Christmas Wishes ..
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12-13-2020, 09:34 AM
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It isdukeWilhelm who is the son of the late Duke Freidrich. Itr was earlierthis year announced that Wilhelm will get business experience bevore taking over the Hofkammer business. Until then his uncle Duke Michael will take over this position.
And anyway it was always Wilhelm who was to became the Head of the Royal House one day as the only son of the oldest son but of course it was expected that he would follow his father rather than his grandfather.
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Sorry, of course its Wilhelm not Philipp. But you did not answer the question, why you called Friedrich the second "heir".
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12-13-2020, 09:49 AM
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Sorry, of course its Wilhelm not Philipp. But you did not answer the question, why you called Friedrich the second "heir".
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I feel that it's important to remember that many members of the forums don't have English as their first or even second language.
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01-06-2021, 04:08 PM
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On December 23, Marie Caroline of Württemberg with brother-in-law Andreas von Maltzan and sister Anna in Bayern-von Maltzan attended the handover to tenant Korbinian Kohler who is planning a unique mental retreat and will take over the stately complex Wildbad Kreuth, south of Kreuth, Germany, from April 1, 2021.
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06-08-2021, 12:47 PM
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Princess Sophie with her husband Count Maximilien d'Andigné are expecting their first child.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CP3U3_AnkRs/
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06-08-2021, 01:05 PM
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Congratulations to the couple!
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06-23-2021, 10:57 AM
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I have a problem with the descendants of Princess Pauline "red princess", Melchior Willim's wife. They had three children:
* Marcella (b. 11 Jan 1881 Breslau), a nun
* Raphael (b. 4 May 1882 Breslau, d. 1939 Paraguay), his descendants was researched by WARGS
* Michaela (b. 16 Sep 1883) - here is a question
There is a man on MyHeritage - Mario Dublanka - who believes he is the Princess' great-grandson. The exact line looks like this:
1. Michaela (b. 16 Sep 1883, d. 12 Dec 1943 ?? Breslau) m. Paul Grosser (b. 15 Jan 1871, d. 31 July 1926)
1.1. Susanne (b. 12 Apr 1921 Breslau, d. 19 Dec 1999 Koln), m. Wilhelm Dublanka (b. 20 Jun 1920, d. 6 Mar 1977 Bielefeld)
1.1.1. Mario Dublanka (b. 5 Nov 1944 Breslau)
Are there any sources to support this line? Most say nothing about Michaela except the date of birth.
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06-23-2021, 12:01 PM
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Quote:
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I have a problem with the descendants of Princess Pauline "red princess", Melchior Willim's wife. They had three children:
* Marcella (b. 11 Jan 1881 Breslau), a nun
* Raphael (b. 4 May 1882 Breslau, d. 1939 Paraguay), his descendants was researched by WARGS
* Michaela (b. 16 Sep 1883) - here is a question
There is a man on MyHeritage - Mario Dublanka - who believes he is the Princess' great-grandson. The exact line looks like this:
1. Michaela (b. 16 Sep 1883, d. 12 Dec 1943 ?? Breslau) m. Paul Grosser (b. 15 Jan 1871, d. 31 July 1926)
1.1. Susanne (b. 12 Apr 1921 Breslau, d. 19 Dec 1999 Koln), m. Wilhelm Dublanka (b. 20 Jun 1920, d. 6 Mar 1977 Bielefeld)
1.1.1. Mario Dublanka (b. 5 Nov 1944 Breslau)
Are there any sources to support this line? Most say nothing about Michaela except the date of birth.
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Michaela was to my knowledge the nun not Marcella.
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06-23-2021, 03:44 PM
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Michaela was to my knowledge the nun not Marcella.
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This page - https://kulturstiftung.org/biographi...n-wuerttemberg says that the older Marcella was a nun but WARGS says the younger Michaela.
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06-23-2021, 05:55 PM
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Royal historian Marlene Koenig also says that Michaela was the nun. She's most often right about these things.
http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogs...-wife.html?m=1
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06-23-2021, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daggy97
I have a problem with the descendants of Princess Pauline "red princess", Melchior Willim's wife. They had three children:
* Marcella (b. 11 Jan 1881 Breslau), a nun
* Raphael (b. 4 May 1882 Breslau, d. 1939 Paraguay), his descendants was researched by WARGS
* Michaela (b. 16 Sep 1883) - here is a question
There is a man on MyHeritage - Mario Dublanka - who believes he is the Princess' great-grandson. The exact line looks like this:
1. Michaela (b. 16 Sep 1883, d. 12 Dec 1943 ?? Breslau) m. Paul Grosser (b. 15 Jan 1871, d. 31 July 1926)
1.1. Susanne (b. 12 Apr 1921 Breslau, d. 19 Dec 1999 Koln), m. Wilhelm Dublanka (b. 20 Jun 1920, d. 6 Mar 1977 Bielefeld)
1.1.1. Mario Dublanka (b. 5 Nov 1944 Breslau)
Are there any sources to support this line? Most say nothing about Michaela except the date of birth.
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Yes, Michaela married Paul Bruno Otto Grosser and died in 1943. I am attaching her death record which I found in Ancestry.
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