Princely House von Wrede

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Fürstin Katharina von Wrede in Weißenburg, Germany
March 6, 2006



(from seegerpress)

[sjetajiem]

Fuerst Carl Christian and Fuerstin Katalin von Wrede had their first child, a daughter, Alicia Claire Eugenie Sophie on December 7th 2007.

[Marengo]

Seeger Press visited fürst Carl and fürstin Katharina of Wrede, in their castle in Bavaria.

Some pictures from 29 May 2008:

Fürstin Katharina

The princess & the cow

Fürstin Katharina and her dogs

Behind her desk

Some photos, among them the duke of Bavaria

Fürst Carl

In the living room

The fürst and fürstin together

[Marengo]

Some more pictures, mainly of the castle Sandsee:

Posing in front of the tower of the castle

A well

The castle

A corridor

Bridge & gate

Good view of the castle

Some additional buildings 1

Some additional buildings 2

[Next Star]

Awesome pictures of the princly family and their estates. But is there any other information about this princly family like who is head of the house and who is the heir to the headship or any other members of this princly family ? To anyone who responses to this post thanks in advance.

[Odette]

Isn't P Marie of Wrede the wife of the son of the Duke of Wurtenberg? Is she the daughter of P Carl & P Katharina?

[R_Bee]

The Princess Marie you might be thinking of is actually Princess Marie of Wied (full name: Wilhelmine Friederike Pauline Elisabeth Marie), who is married to Duke Friedrich of Wurttemburg. Here is a link to her family's geneology:Wied

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Odette

Isn't P Marie of Wrede the wife of the son of the Duke of Wurtenberg? Is she the daughter of P Carl & P Katharina?

Prince Carl and Princess Katharinas have no children together but both have children from previous marriages:

[Odette]

Originally Posted by R_Bee

The Princess Marie you might be thinking of is actually Princess Marie of Wied (full name: Wilhelmine Friederike Pauline Elisabeth Marie), who is married to Duke Friedrich of Wurttemburg. Here is a link to her family's geneology:Wied

Thank you so very much!

Originally Posted by Stefan

Prince CArl and Princess Katharinas have noc children together but both have children from previous marriages:

Thank you Stefan. I was not even in the same family..

[Warren]

Wedding of Erbprinz Hubertus of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha, Coburg, 23 May 2009...

Fürst Carl von Wrede & Fürstin Katalin: [DNF] Fotoarchief Denieuwsfoto
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[michelleq]

Warren:

Thank you for identifying the various German Princes/Princesses' for those of us who did not know, but are learning.

[claypoint2]

Originally Posted by Warren

23 May 2009...

Fürst Carl von Wrede & Fürstin Katalin: [DNF] Fotoarchief Denieuwsfoto
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Warren, I have a question. I thought that the title of Fürst was reserved for the head (the "first") of a family, yet all of the von Wredes appear to be styled "Fürst" or "Fürstin." How come?

I find this family very appealing but confusing, especially because the names and the titles are so similar in both generations. The father is Fürst Carl, and the son is Fürst Carl. The father's wife is Fürstin Katharina, and the son's wife is Fürstin Katalin. How come the younger pair isn't styled Erbprinz and Erbprinzessin, or simply Prinz and Prinzessin?

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by claypoint2

Warren, I have a question. I thought that the title of Fürst was reserved for the head (the "first") of a family, yet all of the von Wredes appear to be styled "Fürst" or "Fürstin." How come?

I find this family very appealing but confusing, especially because the names and the titles are so similar in both generations. The father is Fürst Carl, and the son is Fürst Carl. The father's wife is Fürstin Katharina, and the son's wife is Fürstin Katalin. How come the younger pair isn't styled Erbprinz and Erbprinzessin, or simply Prinz and Prinzessin?

The Wrede Family is one of the rare cases where all are styled Fürst/Fürstin . Actuallay the son's name is Carl Christian.

[MAfan]

Carl Christian is the brother of Archduchess Alexandra of Austria, the wife of Archduke Carl Peter, isn't he?

[Warren]

The Princely House of Wrede is a bit different to most of the Germanic princely families. They don't owe their princely creation to the Holy Roman Emperor (or Emperor of Austria) but to the King of Bavaria. The family made a very rapid ascent: the first title was given in 1791 when Ferdinand Josef von Wrede was created Freiherr (Baron) and his son Carl, a very successful Bavarian military commander, was created Fürst von Wrede in 1814.

Usually such a non-Imperial creation would keep the family out of the "equal marriage" ranks within the Gotha, but the Wredes have proved to be upwardly mobile of late:
• Anna Gabrielle, daughter of Carl, 5th Fürst von Wrede, married Archduke Rudolf of Austria as his second wife in 1971.
• Alexandra, daughter of Carl (-Friedrich), 6th Fürst and sister of Fürst/Erbprinz Carl (-Christian), married Archduke Karl Peter, the eldest son of Rudolf by his first wife, in 1998.

[Stefan]

And to all that the second wife of Fürst Carl was previously married to Prince Wilhelm Ernst of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. Thus the future head of the Saxe-Weimar Family Prince Georg-Constantin ís a half-brother to Fürst Carl Christian.

[MAfan]

Archduchess Anna Gabriele was also cousin of her late sister in law Archduchess Anna Eugenie, nèe Princess of Arenberg, wife of Archduke Felix and daughter of Furstin Marie Gabrielle von Wrede.

[Warren]

Yes, the Wredes have a Habsburg connection that goes back to the 1920s:
Marie Gabrielle, daughter of Carl (-Philipp), 4th Fürst, married HSH Prince and Duke Robert of Arenberg in 1922.
Their daughter Princess and Duchess Anna-Eugenie married Archduke Felix, 3rd son of the Emperor Karl, in 1952.

[MAfan]

Archduke Felix, 2nd son of the Emperor Karl

Felix is the third son and fourth child of the Emperor, born after Otto, Adelheid and Robert.

[Warren]

I'll correct the error in my Wrede folder.