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They are just called the Fürstenbergs when referring to the family. 'Zu' means of/at/in and it would make no sense to include it in front of the name when referring to the family. They are princely, not royal.
Diane uses the 'von' as the public understands it better.
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I do not believe they have titles as "prince" or "Princess." They are Barry Diller's heirs because he loves them and has no children of his own. VF's family didn't approve the marriage to DVF because she is Jewish, but I think that the kids are close to their cousins--I mean they had Alex VF's kids' christenings in Europe, and it looked like there were plenty of VF cousins there. I don't know what you mean by "made something of themselves," but if they did, it's all because of the drive and ambition of Diane. In case you haven't heard, Alex is divorced from Alex Miller; in any case, I think if he inherits even half of Barry Diller's estate, he would be much richer than Alex Miller.
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Correct. The marriage was not recognized, and thus they don't "officially" have use of the title of Prince/ss However, they do use it (for social& business reasons, obviously). They're not close to the main line and, in fact, decend from a very junior line of the family. They get so much press that people often mistakingly think that they are *the* Furstenburgs.
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sorry, this is very embarassing, i had not the slightest idea, obviously. blush
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don't be hard on yourself ... your response was one of the most creative answers in a long time ... I loved it.
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I loved it, too! It was awesome, and I guess in a way, not entirely incorrect...hehehehe.
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09-14-2005, 04:58 PM
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Princess Ira von Furstenberg
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/int...m?id=1945122005
Hotel pursues socialite in court over £82,000 bill
http://actu.voila.fr/Article/mmd--fr....00s545x2.html
Princess Ira von Furstenberg : hotel bill not paid
2005-09-14 18:00:06 PARIS (AFP)
 Appear of the gotha and accustomed cocktails society men, the Ira princess from Furstenberg was invited Wednesday to very an other go in front of the correctional court of Paris where it was continued by the hotel Royal Heap which claims a note of 122 to him.000 euros.
Customer of the Parisian de luxe hotel since a score of years, the princess originating in Lichtenstein did not move in the modest room of the 12e room of the correctional court which, before considering this business, had treated a score of small files of unpaid debts near an organization of credit.
In preamble, the president of the court, Francis Bruty, lance with lawyer of the Royal Heap: "whereas you reproach him with this poor woman, finally, poor between quotation marks?"
The five stars located which occurred Notch, in VIIIe district of Paris, shows the princess not to have paid a note of a total amount of 122.000 euros.
Vis-a-vis with impossibility of recovering the which had sums, the Royal Heap had obtained Court of Appeal of Paris a warrant for attachment of its goods.
July 12, 2004, an usher visited the apartment of Mrs. de Furstenberg, located which occurred Foch, in one of the most crested districts of the capital, and pointed the whole of furniture. Problem: when the usher actually wanted to seize the pieces of furniture that it had indexed, four of them (a gloss, two night tables and a storage unit, estimated at 11.000 euros), had disappeared.
The remainder of the seized objects - in particular of the Vuitton luggage, forgeries according to an expertise of the famous malletier, 70 pairs of shoes of large mark and bags of evening - accounted for only 1.900 euros.
The hotel, represented by Master Edouard Chamy, thus engaged of the legal proceedings for "diversion of seized goods".
"Mrs. de Furstenberg organized her bankruptcy", deplored lawyer, stressing that the hotel was "in a delicate situation with respect to its auditors".
The council of the hotel asked for the judgment of the princess, the payment of 11.000 euros of damages as well as the publication of the judgement in "the magazines people like Paris Match or Point of view".
On its side, Main Emmanuel Trink, the lawyer of Mrs. de Furstenberg, denied that any object could volitilize of its "pied-à-terre chichement furnished".
"It is extraordinary to claim, and I see there the hand of spite or worse, than a piece of furniture could disappear", according to Me Trink which shows moreover the auctioneer having evaluated the disappeared goods with 11.000 euros of "false evidence".
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from corbis
Germany - Royalty - Heinrich zu Furstenberg
Prince Heinrich zu Furstenberg awaiting the start of his trial in Konstanz. The 55-year-old faced charges of buying and possessing cocaine.
March 28, 2006
Prince Heinrich zu Furstenberg smiling after he was sentenced by a regional court to pay a fine of 1,500 euros for a drug offense. The court considered it proven that the 55-year old solicited an acquaintance to buy cocaine, but the actual possession charge was not proven.
March 30, 2006
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Prince Christian Joachim Maximilian of Fuerstenberg
Christian Joachim Maximilian Hereditary Prince of Fuerstenberg poses next to a painting showing Emperor Wilhelm, in the noble castle in Donaueschingen, southern Germany, 13 December 2002. Fuerstenberg is also a major brewery in Germany. The 25-year-old is the sole heir to the house of Fuerstenberg, one of Germany's oldest and most significant noble families. The Fuerstenberg tradition dates back to 1070. 'It is my assignment to preserve the tradition of my family and to lead our noble house into the future', he said. 'I am not afraid of that task, but I have great respect.'
 
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05-11-2006, 12:35 PM
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Here is a Picture of Ira of Fürstenberg from 2003, who caused a scandal in 1956 with her marriage to Alphonso of Hohenlohe, because she was just 16 at the Time of her Marriage and he was a Gigolo in his thirties already.They married in a spectacular wedding in Venice. Today Ira is a wellknown Guest at worldwide society events.
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Her mother is Clara Agnelli, the sister of giant car industry patriarch late Senator Giovanni Agnelli.
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05-11-2006, 08:37 PM
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Prince Christian Joachim Maximilian of Fuerstenberg
The 25-year-old is the sole heir to the house of Fuerstenberg, one of Germany's oldest and most significant noble families.
I might be wrong but doesn't he have a younger brother named Antonius?
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Originally Posted by Hereditary Mapmaker
Prince Christian Joachim Maximilian of Fuerstenberg
The 25-year-old is the sole heir to the house of Fuerstenberg, one of Germany's oldest and most significant noble families.
I might be wrong but doesn't he have a younger brother named Antonius?
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Yes, Christian's younger brother Prince Antonius turns 21 in June this year. There is no shortage of potential male Fürstenberg "heirs" (there are at least 11 in the principal branch of the family), but I think the article intends to say that Erbprinz Christian is the heir.
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Posts relating to the sudden death of Princess Ira's son, Prince Christoph of Hohenlohe-Langenburg, have been moved to the Princely House of Hohenlohe thread.
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While it seems to be the norm now fot German royals to marry non royals I really hope that in the end he marries someone from the Gotha. I know that 'love' is supposed to be the only criteria now but personally I think that there is more involved than that.
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Fuerstenberg girlfriend
I also agree that the Fuerstenberg heir should mary someone of his status. I heard that his current girlfriend, who must be in her mid 20´s, is already divorced from another German millionaires heir and that the marriage lasted just one year. Apparently she left her husband right after meeting HRS Fuerstenberg . < ed defamatory comment - Warren >
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02-14-2008, 05:26 AM
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Haus Fuerstenberg
 Not only is his current girlfriend not a royal, she is also already divorced. On the picture she looks like someone who ´s found the big catch. I wonder if she is Prince Christian´s only girlfriend, if yes, I would be very surprised. He surely deserves someone, < ed defamatory comment - Warren >
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Donaueschingen: Wieder Frieden im Schlosspark | suedkurier.de
Peace in the "Schlosspark" Castle-park (?). Finally an agreement has been reached between the city Donaueschingen and the Fürstenbergs concerning the public use of the castle-park. A map is included in the article showing the future bike-ways and public sphere as well as the private area.
Source: Südkurier online website ( Mehr als Zeitung im Netz | suedkurier.de)
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death of Countess Maria Josepha of Hardenberg
Countess maria Josepha of Hardenberg, née Princess zu Fürstenberg died at the age of 86. She was a sister of the late Fürst Joachim egon. One of her daugthers Christa was married to actor Hans Clari and another daughter Beatrice is the former wife of the Duke of Sevilla. The funeral will take place next Tuesday.
Article in the Schwarzwaelder Bote
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Does Princess Ira Von Furstenberg continue to travel to Monaco since Prince Ranier's death?
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