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08-13-2005, 09:18 PM
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How many children does Duchess Diane have? Also, is Michael the last of her children to marry? Thank you.
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08-14-2005, 02:12 AM
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How many children does Duchess Diane have? Also, is Michael the last of her children to marry? Thank you.
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The family of Duke Carl and Duchess Diane:
Friedrich, Hereditary Duke of Württemberg, b 1961, m Princess Marie of Wied
Duchess Mathilde, b 1962, m Erich, Erbgraf von Waldburg zu Zeil und Trauchberg
Duke Eberhard, b 1963, unmarried
Duke Philipp, b 1964, m Duchess Marie Caroline in Bavaria
Duke Michael, b 1965, engaged to Julia Storz
Duchess Fleur, b 1977, m Count Moritz von Goess
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08-14-2005, 02:40 AM
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Is it known whether or not Eberhard has a significant other?
There is such a huge age gap between the the oldest children and Fleur. She came along rather late.
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08-15-2005, 06:14 PM
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Is it known whether or not Eberhard has a significant other?
There is such a huge age gap between the the oldest children and Fleur. She came along rather late.
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Some people said, and Diane seemed to have confirmed it, that Fleur wasn't duke Karl's daughter but king Juan Carlos's one.
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08-16-2005, 12:34 AM
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Is this the reason that Queen Sophia did not attend Fleurs wedding?
When did Diane seem to confirm this story?
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08-26-2005, 09:59 AM
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Some people said, and Diane seemed to have confirmed it, that Fleur wasn't duke Karl's daughter but king Juan Carlos's one.
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When and why did she confirm it?
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08-26-2005, 04:20 PM
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poor Karl, he should have listened to his parents and have married Diane's sister Anne.
I am not sure if Fleur is Juan-Carlos daughter, but she is definately not Karls, Karl and Diane are both blue eyed while Fleur has brown eyes (genetically this is not possible). I always thought that it was the deceased father of Luis-Alfonso de Borbon (so-called Duke of Anjou) who was the father (only heard rumours about this). Apparently Sofia vetoed the marital prospects of Elena and duke Eberhard of Wurttemberg (Diane hinted this) btw.
I am glad her son is marrying a commoner, she was snubbing her (far more agreable) sister Anne -married to infante Carlos of Spain, Duke of Calabria, for the marriages of her children in her strange biography (I pity the fiancee though).
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08-26-2005, 04:21 PM
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btw, the King of Spain is godfather to Fleur, that could explain his presence at the wedding as well.
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08-27-2005, 10:07 AM
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I am glad her son is marrying a commoner, she was snubbing her (far more agreable) sister Anne -married to infante Carlos of Spain, Duke of Calabria, for the marriages of her children in her strange biography (I pity the fiancee though).
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Why do you call it strange? Can you elaborate please?:)
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08-29-2005, 12:56 PM
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Any word on when Michael will marry the commoner?
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08-30-2005, 07:54 AM
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first, the stye of the author does not appeal to me, he uses every word he could find to praise Diane in all possible ways. Furthermore, the way she tells things reminds me of Queen Marie of Roumania, she is so full of herself (but without Missy's sense of humour btw), always the victim etc. And the lady has som strange stories (for example about a painting which fell from a wall, which she relates to her mother or father dying) and some nasty remarks (f.e. to her sister Anne and her suspicion towards Queen Sophia's veto on Elena and Eberhard). She tends to forget her own vices and wrongdoings.
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08-30-2005, 11:11 AM
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It is possible to have parents who have blue and green eyes to have a brown eyed child. I'm a good example, as my father has bright blue eyes and my mother, green. The brown eyes come from a grandmother.
Diane sounds like quite the elitest snob.
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08-31-2005, 02:50 AM
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I am not sure if Fleur is Juan-Carlos daughter, but she is definately not Karls, Karl and Diane are both blue eyed while Fleur has brown eyes (genetically this is not possible). I always thought that it was the deceased father of Luis-Alfonso de Borbon (so-called Duke of Anjou) who was the father (only heard rumours about this). Apparently Sofia vetoed the marital prospects of Elena and duke Eberhard of Wurttemberg (Diane hinted this) btw.
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How is it not possible that 2 brown eyed adults can not have a blue eyed child? Without getting into 2 much detail if each parent would have to have 1 brown eyed gene and 1 blue eyed gene. In order for the child to inherit the blue eyes both blue eyed gene's from each parent would have to be passed onto the kid, then it would be possible that they inherit blue eyes, granted its rare but not impossible. If one parent passed on thier brown eyed gene and the other parent passed on thier blue eyed gene then the child would have brown eyes since brown is the dominant gene. Two parents with brown eyes that have a child with blue eyes is almost like having blond hair and brown eyes or red hair and brown eyes - very unlikely but not impossible. I hope this wasn't to confusing. :p
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08-31-2005, 04:19 AM
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Lashinka, you got it the wrong way. It's not two brown eyed parents having a blue-eyed daughter, it's the contrary.
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08-31-2005, 04:36 AM
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It is possible to have parents who have blue and green eyes to have a brown eyed child. I'm a good example, as my father has bright blue eyes and my mother, green. The brown eyes come from a grandmother.
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Paloma it is not surprising that your eyes are brown, because you state that your mother has green eyes. Without entering into details, if she has green eyes, that means she has at least one 'brown eye' gene.
But it is still very surprising that a child of two blue eyed people has brown eyes. I would not say it is totally impossible (nothing is quite impossible in genetics) but definitely very unlikely.
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01-04-2006, 04:46 PM
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does any one have any information on duchess diane of wurttemberg? I sure would love some info on her. pictures of her wedding and stuff like that. tanya
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01-07-2006, 05:27 PM
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Was the marriage of Duke Karl and Duchess Diane arranged or did they just happen to fall in love?
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01-08-2006, 03:18 AM
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It wasn't arranged.
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01-08-2006, 06:16 AM
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does any one have any information on duchess diane of wurttemberg? I sure would love some info on her. pictures of her wedding and stuff like that. tanya
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What kind of information are you wanting? Familial, professional, anecdotal, gossip? She is the daughter of the late Comte the Paris and Isabel Orleans Braganca, married to Duke Carl of Wurrtemberg since 1960, has a very hones sense of what is de riguer and what is not, is quite controversial, has allegedly had numerous affairs (see her recent autobiography co-authored by Stephan Bern, IIRC, in French), is an accomplished artist and sculptor. You can see wedding and familial pics at the following link.
http://members.fortunecity.com/verenad/DianeO.html
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01-08-2006, 06:29 AM
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Some people said, and Diane seemed to have confirmed it, that Fleur wasn't duke Karl's daughter but king Juan Carlos's one.
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Well, I don't know if it is true or not, but I always thought so. It has been rumored so for ages. Fleur was conceived around the time she allegedly had her affair with him. Juan Carlos is her godfather, she spent time with the RF when she was studying (IIRC) in Spain (I have a pic of Juan Carlos carrying in a Birthday cake singing happy birthday to Fleur), and he made a point of attending her wedding -- he attends very few abroad. Moreover, Sofia is said not to like Diane and distrusts her.
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