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06-04-2009, 10:16 PM
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Does anyone know whether HPss Kelly of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha has obtained German citizenship? Also, will she use her maiden name or her married name professionally(as an investment banker)?
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07-24-2009, 06:03 AM
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In Gotha was a presentation about a research reports on the life of some members of the Saxe-Coburg und Gotha family.
Thüringische Landeszeitung - TLZ - Gotha - Nachrichten - Aktuelles - Primadonna verdrehte zwei Herzögen den Kopf
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08-02-2009, 01:30 AM
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Does anyone have a picture of the minor prince August Ludwig Viktor, (b 1817-18) from the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Kohary, married Clementine, daughter of King of France -- in addition to the small picture/painting on Wikipedia? I believe he later gained the title of Highness in Austria and passed away shortly after that. Also, what is he best remembered for? (I hope my information is correct.) Thank you in advance.
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08-02-2009, 10:37 AM
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August Ludwig Viktor, (b 1817-18)
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Burke's Royal Families of the World Vol 1 has Prince August of Saxe-Coburg-Kohary (1818-1881) as a Major-General in the Austrian Army and a Lt-General in the Saxon Army, and a member of the Austrian House of Lords.
He was granted the qualification of Highness for himself and his descendants about three months prior to his death.
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08-02-2009, 11:45 AM
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Interesting how his Highness August Ludwig Viktor (1818-1881) passed away in July 1881 from bronchitus (ref: Wikipedia French language version). I normally think of people having problems with bronchitus in the winter months with viruses. Maybe he had allergies. I hope there was no planned demise after he was given the title "Highness" - as he was considered a minor prince and that could have aggravated some circles. Did he have a good relationship with his wife Clementine?
Would someone happen to have a family picture of Prince August Ludwig Viktor, Saxe-Corburg-Kohary (aka: his "Highness" in Austria) -- maybe with Clementine or with any of his children? There appears to be very few pictures available on line. Thanks in advance.
Good news. I found pictures of Prince August, his wife Clementine and family members in Olivier Defrance's book entitled, "La Medicis des Cobourg - Clementine d'Orleans."
Very little has been written about Prince August. The book did mention he had an affair with the wife of Carl Braun (famous Austrian obstetrician). Is that true? How did that effect his relationship with Clementine and the family? Thanks in advance.
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09-17-2009, 12:45 PM
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Prince Ernst-Josias of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha died on 4 september 2009, aged 44.
He was a son of the late Prince Ernst-Leopold, himself the eldest son of Hereditary Prince Johann Leopold.
Prince Ernst-Josias was married since 1996 to Birgit Meissner, with whom he had a daughter, Sophie, in 2000.
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09-17-2009, 02:51 PM
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do you know the cause of death mafan ?......i ask as he was so young !!
my heart goes out to the family at this sad time.....
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09-17-2009, 04:19 PM
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No, I don't know...but he was rather young...
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10-07-2009, 02:05 PM
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On 4 September Ernst Josias Carl Eduard Hermann Leopold of Saxe-Coburg & Githa died at the age of 44. He was the grandson of prince Johann Leopold of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha. The prince however married morganatically, so his descendants lost their rights.
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04-27-2010, 07:25 PM
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Prince Johannes Heinrich of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha died on 14 April 2010, aged 79.
He was son of Prince Rainer of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and of his first wife, née Countess Johanna Károlyi de Károly-Patty.
He married firstly in 1957 Baroness Marie-Gabrielle von Fürstenberg, with whom he had a daughter, Felicitas. They divorced in 1968.
He was married secondly in 1968 to Princess Mathilde of Saxony; they had a son, who died in 1987 in a mountain-climbing accident. They divorced in 1993.
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04-27-2010, 10:55 PM
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Sad news for the family. My condolances.
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04-29-2010, 05:29 AM
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with his death the Catholic branch of the Ducal family is now extinct in the male line, leaving only the morganatic son of Prince Phillip, Phillip and his sons, Maximillian and Alexander, to carry on the male, though non royal line.
The other branchs of the Ducal family are the main line, the Windsors, the Belgians and the Bulgarians.
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04-29-2010, 03:16 PM
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Can someone post any photos of Johannes Heinrich and his family, please ?
He was 1st married to pss Gabrielle of Furstenbeg - 1 daughter, Pss Felicitas.
He married 2ndly Pss Mathuilde of Saxony - 1 son Pr. Johannes Albert who should have become the heir of the Saxony throne if he hadn't died from a mountain fall in 1987.
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04-29-2010, 06:51 PM
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He was 1st married to pss Gabrielle of Furstenbeg - 1 daughter, Pss Felicitas.
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Gabrielle was not born into the Princely Family zu Fürstenberg, but into the Baronal branch of the family, as daughter of Baron Franziskus von Fürstenberg.
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04-30-2010, 07:15 AM
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Those two Fürstenberg families are not even related in male line...
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04-30-2010, 07:21 PM
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Or at least they are very distantly related.
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05-22-2010, 07:25 PM
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It seems to me that there should be more about them, as they are rather central in a hereditary and historical sense to rest of the European royal "community". |
Why do you think that they are central in a hereditary and historical sense?
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05-23-2010, 11:18 AM
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Why do you think that they are central in a hereditary and historical sense?
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It's because the Coburg's bloodline dominated the European monarchies through the marriage of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, who was the nephew of Leopold of the Saxe-Coburg family.
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05-23-2010, 01:01 PM
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Though prolific the Coburg bloodline has not been particularly good at anything but marrying well. Victoria did not inherit exceptional gnes.
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05-23-2010, 09:08 PM
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Or at least they are very distantly related. |
No,they are not the same family in male line...not even distantly related in male line like for example former Duke of Cadaval and his daughters husband Duke of Anjou...both belong to the House of Capet.
That is not the case with Princes and Barons zu Fürstenberg...
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